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[Real fan 02]

Yep. He'll get out-schemed every now and then but that happens to all coaches. What we do know is it won't be because they aren't prepared. They'll make adjustments and those will be based on data, what has transpired, and logic.

Yes. You said it.. adjusting that's what good coaches do.. I think under Vrabel we can finally beat Tua finally!!

 

[Thunderhead]

Reported baker was having issues with the play book.. so wasn't AVP

Good luck to him picking up McDaniels' offense.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'm with you PF2.. but I took a hard look at things.. and the development is where Mayo failed miserably.. Polk and baker under Josh stand to be at minimum contributing players.. they have talent and can add value to the offense.. they are young undeveloped players with raw talent.

You can count the number of players on last year's roster who improved in 2024 from 2023 on one hand.

Pathetic.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Good luck to him picking up McDaniels' offense.

He isn't installing the 2018 offense.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Agreed, but they can get start fresh and put last season down the memory hole.

Remember that in training camp, Polk was looking good.

I'm still convinced that if they can get Polk's head out of the dumpster, he can develop. He was getting open and getting separation. He just wasn't catching the ball. And then he got down on himself and the coaches let him spiral.

 

[Real fan 02]

Good luck to him picking up McDaniels' offense.

McDaniels offense is drakes offense

 

[Real fan 02]

You can count the number of players on last year's roster who improved in 2024 from 2023 on one hand.

Pathetic.

Absolutely . Pathetic is the right choice of words. Probably Robinson was the only player if you want to say developed a bit..

 

[Real fan 02]

I'm still convinced that if they can get Polk's head out of the dumpster, he can develop. He was getting open and getting separation. He just wasn't catching the ball. And then he got down on himself and the coaches let him spiral.

Agreed.. him getting the concussion also impacted him.. mayo and Brissett did polk no justice..

 

[Thunderhead]

He isn't installing the 2018 offense.

Didn't say he was. McDaniels' offense will absolutely be more complex than whatever AVP was cooking up.

 

[Real fan 02]

Didn't say he was. McDaniels' offense will absolutely be more complex than whatever AVP was cooking up.

McDaniels said he's morphing his offense around the skill set of the QB and skill positions..

 

[RobertWeathers]

Absolutely . Pathetic is the right choice of words. Probably Robinson was the only player if you want to say developed a bit..

You can say HH, Pop, and Boutte did but that had more to do with the QB actually being decent.

Gonzo was already playing at a high level before his injury.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Didn't say he was. McDaniels' offense will absolutely be more complex than whatever AVP was cooking up.

Yes but it won't be as complex as you are implying.

 

[dliverey44]

Right, so easier to go Carter or offense with 4 if there's a chance to find guys who are mostly equivalent of Graham elsewhere.

I wouldn't say equivalent, but what I will say (LOL, Mayo) is that the drop from Graham to the 7th best DT is not as far as the drop from Carter to the 7th best edge.

 

[mike_usagisan]

I wouldn't say equivalent, but what I will say (LOL, Mayo) is that the drop from Graham to the 7th best DT is not as far as the drop from Carter to the 7th best edge.

Yeah, that's what I was trying (and not succeeding) at saying. Bill used to talk about targeting a group of three or four players of the same position who were roughly graded about the same and try to get one. That gave him room to trade back or know when to trade up.

 

[dliverey44]

Yeah, that's what I was trying (and not succeeding) at saying. Bill used to talk about targeting a group of three or four players of the same position who were roughly graded about the same and try to get one. That gave him room to trade back or know when to trade up.

Was probably my reading comprehension.

 

[The Gr8est]

I wouldn't say equivalent, but what I will say (LOL, Mayo) is that the drop from Graham to the 7th best DT is not as far as the drop from Carter to the 7th best edge.

Carter may not make it #4.

Thanks Mayo!

 

[Real fan 02]

You can say HH, Pop, and Boutte did but that had more to do with the QB actually being decent.

Gonzo was already playing at a high level before his injury.

Yes. The defense stands to be significantly better under Vrabel and Williams.. gonzo will be 1st team all pro where he belongs. Best CB in the game..

 

[mike_usagisan]

Carter may not make it #4.

Thanks Mayo!

I'll take whoever we get at 4 and Vrabel rather than Carter and Mayo.

 

[Joey007]

Had anyone mentioned here yet that Hightower is no longer on the staff?

 

[Zuma]

Tyler Vrabel - Wikipedia

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Tyler Vrabel (born June 24, 2000) is an American former football offensive tackle who currently works as an assistant offensive line coach for the New England Patriots of the National Football League (NFL). He played in the NFL for the Atlanta Falcons after playing college football at Boston College.

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