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What I see from them is they gave up a lot of yards but few points.

So when we say the 2018-19-20-21 Titans were not great on D, they were bottom half in yards, but again, as you said, top 10 in points allowed.

Sounds like someone's defense with which we are all pretty familiar.
The titans if I recall without looking up had the most players on IR if memory serves.
 
The only good player they had was Clowney.


Thats pretty harsh considering he had 5 of 6 years upper 1/2 of the league and 2 at #3 and #6

When he had talent like Landry, etc they did well.

Once the talent left, so did the quality of the D.

Need good personnel to have a good D.
One things for sure under Vrabel I fully expect the LBs to be much better I entrust Vrabel to identify LBs at pass rusher to help this defense.
 
You can't interview non-bye coordinators until next week.
But the requests can go in can’t they?
What does their sexual preference have to with when they can take interviews anyway?
First the Rooney rule now this?
 
This is the money thing, my friend messaged me about they were 5 mill apart a season,
They should meet halfway and get it done,
Expecting 12 to 12.5 a season.
What qualifications does your friend have as a source?
 
What rule is this? The Rooney rule does not apply to Glenn so what other rule.....?
The Rooney rule.

I know what you're saying about the in-person stuff but I'll say this again: they could have made it look like they were serious about the rule by inviting Aaron Glenn and others. Glenn couldn't do in-person, but there are other candidates who could interview. I also think they should have invited Flores even though he can't do in person either
 
He works for a certain sports blog in Boston as editor, I can’t say which one.
I’m sure they meet halfway, I get Kraft is a businessman he wants to feel like he came out on top.

I don’t see the deal falling thru as long as he meets him at say 12 12.5
 
The Rooney rule.

I know what you're saying about the in-person stuff but I'll say this again: they could have made it look like they were serious about the rule by inviting Aaron Glenn and others. Glenn couldn't do in-person, but there are other candidates who could interview. I also think they should have invited Flores even though he can't do in person either
OK, I get what you are saying, the Bears and Jets did the same thing, but actually worse than the Pats but interviewed so many guys nobody noticed so they didn't get criticism.
I'm OK ignoring the misguided criticism of the Pats but see your point.
 
Then why hire him over Johnson?
It’s convenient for Bob. He’s familiar with Vrabel even though that’s what got him in trouble with Mayo.

Vrabel is clearly a step up, but is it enough to where the Pats want to go?
 
Abdoul Carter should be there.
Sanders is pushing the Giants to take Shedaur.
One of Carter, or Hunter should be there at 4
I see.. I've heard nothing but great things about Carter.. so do we take him at 4 or will McMillan be there at 4?
 
It’s convenient for Bob. He’s familiar with Vrabel even though that’s what got him in trouble with Mayo.

Vrabel is clearly a step up, but is it enough to where the Pats want to go?
You have a valid point. I believe the difference is Mayo's was contractual. At least Vrabel has the experience and went the proper route in order to know what it takes to become a good coach. Mayo never really earned it.
 
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