Does anyone think there is a chance Mayo is one and done?

[PatsfanTN]

No question.

Quite frankly I can see Maye stagnate or regress

If the current coaching staff and GM stays? I 100% agree.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Why do you hate me?

Why do you feel this way?

 

[Love The Drake]

Why do you feel this way?

Cause Slash is trying to pop my hope Balloon.

 

[PWRxWLF]

Yes and Year 2 and better coaching will provide more clarity.

Better coaching and a new system hopefully. We’ll see. I want all the rookies to succeed. I’m just not holding out any hope it’s gonna happen.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

I like Slash quite a bit, grew up listening to him.
He's very far from being the guy you want to hitch your wagon to.

 

[Kdo5]

Gosh I'm going to get flamed, but am I the only one who actually wants to see him for another year? Hate carousels. I've prob said it before but seeing what's going on in Detroit (3-13-1, fired OC, then started 1-6 finishing 9-8), I'd like to see I'm amenable to seeing another year.

There is a case to make on behalf of Mayo that fans and media predicted a 3-4 win season to start. And we are finishing that way. So they didn’t underachieve or overachieve. They met expectations. Fans love to ***** and especially here we somehow feel that a team with the worst roster ought to have won 7 or 8 games.

You could argue that the team played better than expected and were in a number of games to the last few minutes if not seconds.

For me though it is the lack of accountability, the mouthiness of underachieving players suggests a loose “culture” being set. The regression of the defense is a big one. And the fact that Ben Johnson or Vrabel wants to come here makes it very tempting to ditch Mayo and company.

 

[Ross12]

I agree, but most of the rookies showed absolutely nothing. At some point talent shows up, regardless of coaching.

But the rookies also didn’t really play.

Maye obviously did, but Polk started early on then disappeared. Wallace got a seemingly minor injury early on and was held out almost all year. Baker didn’t really play at all until the last couple weeks. Robinson DID play and has developed and started to look OK the last couple weeks.

It’s hard to say if they were good or bad picks if they didn’t see the field. You can argue they didn’t see the field because they didn’t beat the guys ahead of them, but do you trust that Mayo was really making the best decisions in regards to that?

I don’t think it was the best draft but I wouldn’t be surprised if a new staff came in and actually made guys like Polk and Wallace into solid players in short order.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Better coaching and a new system hopefully. We’ll see. I want all the rookies to succeed. I’m just not holding out any hope it’s gonna happen.

At this point hope is fleeting

 

[PWRxWLF]

But the rookies also didn’t really play.

Maye obviously did, but Polk started early on then disappeared. Wallace got a seemingly minor injury early on and was held out almost all year. Baker didn’t really play at all until the last couple weeks. Robinson DID play and has developed and started to look OK the last couple weeks.

It’s hard to say if they were good or bad picks if they didn’t see the field. You can argue they didn’t see the field because they didn’t beat the guys ahead of them, but do you trust that Mayo was really making the best decisions in regards to that?

I don’t think it was the best draft but I wouldn’t be surprised if a new staff came in and actually made guys like Polk and Wallace into solid players in short order.

Let’s be honest. If the rookies had earned a chance to play, they would’ve played. Look how many chances Robinson was given. I’m not ready to call them all busts quite yet but year one definitely didn’t show up in Wolf’s favor. He admitted as much.

 

[Nunchucks]

If Mayo stays and yhe team struggles to start the year, it is going to be a complete **** show. Especially if Vrabel takes the jets job.

 

[lancerman]

The problem with blaming Wolf completely is the players he acquired were coached by bad positional coaches and a deer in the headlights Cov and Mayo. AVP and Springer are the only coaches who seem comfortable in their roles.

What if you took the 2024 roster and it was coached by the 2004 coaching staff?

Would they have won more games? Would Wolf look better or worse?

Aside from Maye who didn't even start the first third of the season, this is mostly the same roster as last years that only won 4 games.

The issue is the players are independently bad. If we give Wolf that excuse, you have to give the coaches the excuse of "how would they look with the 2004 roster".

 

[RobertWeathers]

If Mayo stays and yhe team struggles to start the year, it is going to be a complete **** show. Especially if Vrabel takes the jets job.

..and if Vrabes is winning..

Jesus that would be an unmitigated disaster.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Aside from Maye who didn't even start the first third of the season, this is mostly the same roster as last years that only won 4 games.

The issue is the players are independently bad. If we give Wolf that excuse, you have to give the coaches the excuse of "how would they look with the 2004 roster".

I think they'd f up the 04 team.

Losing Law, Poole and Set and managing injuries would make that a 10-6 team if Mayo ran it

 

[Ross12]

If Mayo stays and yhe team struggles to start the year, it is going to be a complete **** show. Especially if Vrabel takes the jets job.

I am guessing Kraft has already talked to Vrabel and knows he wants the job. He will also make an off the record call to the coordinators on the good teams on Monday to see what interest levels are on the job. If he is pretty confident he can get Vrabel, and if he somehow misses on Vrabel then he will still have several very good interested coaches, then he will can Mayo on Tuesday. That’s my hunch.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I am guessing Kraft has already talked to Vrabel and knows he wants the job. He will also make an off the record call to the coordinators on the good teams on Monday to see what interest levels are on the job. If he is pretty confident he can get Vrabel, and if he somehow misses on Vrabel then he will still have several very good interested coaches, then he will can Mayo on Tuesday. That’s my hunch.

Why Tuesday?

 

[PatsfanTN]

Why Tuesday?

JK…..you know something we don’t?

 

[Jim Beankie]

There is a case to make on behalf of Mayo that fans and media predicted a 3-4 win season to start. And we are finishing that way. So they didn’t underachieve or overachieve. They met expectations. Fans love to ***** and especially here we somehow feel that a team with the worst roster ought to have won 7 or 8 games.

You could argue that the team played better than expected and were in a number of games to the last few minutes if not seconds.

For me though it is the lack of accountability, the mouthiness of underachieving players suggests a loose “culture” being set. The regression of the defense is a big one. And the fact that Ben Johnson or Vrabel wants to come here makes it very tempting to ditch Mayo and company.

Makes sense, but I think the regression of the defense was expected when they decided to move on from the one of if not the greatest defensive mind in NFL history.

 

[Huckleberry1]

What’s the penalty for ignoring the Rooney Rule? (Asking for a friend)

I’m not sure, but someone here will know. My guess is for the Patriots a violation would mean the loss of their next 10 1st round picks..

 

[captain stone]

...But either way if losing Mayo means keeping Wolf im good with that.

You have it the other way-around.

 

[captain stone]

That’s terrible.

Only thing worse for the team would be win on Sunday and keep his job.

I would rather lose tomorrow and keep Mayo (but still get to fire the children upstairs) than win tomorrow and fire him.

THAT'S how important losing tomorrow is to me.