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Does anyone think there is a chance Mayo is one and done?

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Please end this fool.
He will never be a good head coach, he’s a liar, he’s delusional he’s in he’s in way over his head.
At the opposite spectrum is Jon Gruden, one guy who can coach at a high level. Perhaps even elite.

He is a proven winner.

But in a private email he was unflattering to a colleague. Made fun of a physical characteristic. Men do this all the time in private.

But the commissioner’s office may have broken the law by making it public. It’s still in litigation.

In this day and age, Gruden’s private e-mail’s language is unacceptable, especially as it can be construed as being racist. Big no-no.

But successful, proven coaches are hard to find. Very hard. And they make a big difference. For good and I’ll. We are seeing the latter now. Because of this they may even be worth the warts.

Teams are doing their homework on Gruden for this very reason.

In Foxboro the times are desperate.

Kraft went woke hiring a guy with no head coaching experience and who wasn’t even a full-fledged coordinator. Could the unthinkable happen and he go in the opposite direction?
 
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It’s a lot of “I think” and “my feeling is” lately from the national reporters as opposed to actual more definitive statements like we got weeks ago. This makes me think that they were told something more clear weeks ago (probably before the bye) but lately it’s been radio silence, so they are left just making guesses based on what they were told a long time ago. That radio silence itself would/should lead you to think the opposite is definitely on the table, but they don’t really have word from anyone that that’s on the table, so they’re not going to report it.

Or it's just wishful thinking and Kraft hasn't changed his mind. If Kraft were out on Mayo, he's not that secretive. We knew for months Bill was gone last year.

Kraft is doing exactly the right thing....................... if he's firing Mayo.

Why have it out there that his coach is toast in a few days, especially since Mayo is a friend?

We'll know soon enough.
 
Kraft is doing exactly the right thing....................... if he's firing Mayo.

Why have it out there that his coach is toast in a few days, especially since Mayo is a friend?

We'll know soon enough.
That’s my thought also… I think he was honest when he told reporters Mayo should be safe a few weeks ago barring any collapse - problem is then they went out and **** the bed completely vs Arizona (coming out of a bye!) and then even worse at home vs LAC. Kraft felt if Mayo could keep the team together and showing positive momentum end of the year then he would deserve a chance at a second year with a better roster. Instead he blew it, so Kraft is out - but of course he hasn’t told anyone in the media this because it doesn’t help anyone and probably would only make the final home on-field product on Sunday even worse, so he’s just left reporters in the dark with only his last fed info to go off of (that Mayo should be safe, as of several weeks ago). Reporters can probably guess that the recent games may change his mind but they don’t know, so they still have to say “it’s more likely that Mayo returns” etc…
 
Vrabel seemed like such an obvious choice to take over: I’m not sure how or why Mayo leapfrogged everybody else so easily with almost no high level coaching experience . They didn’t do him any favors in the long run
Really? You don’t know?

Mayo’s black and Kraft wanted to look good to his rich, snobby friends and neighbors.
 
Kraft is probably shell shocked. But he was once an astute, even courageous businessman. I know he’s a doddering old fool. It happens.

Taking all those little blue pills to keep up with his much, much younger wife.

But the old lion can come back out.

After the Chargers game I have no doubt Bob is firing Mayo and burning it down. Expect a guy to come in here with actual head coaching experience.

Vrabel, Brian Flores. Hell, they may even do due diligence on Chucky himself (Jon Gruden).

Mayo, you didn’t EARN it. Now you’ll have to go back to tv and a corporate sinecure office.
 
That’s my thought also… I think he was honest when he told reporters Mayo should be safe a few weeks ago barring any collapse - problem is then they went out and **** the bed completely vs Arizona (coming out of a bye!) and then even worse at home vs LAC. Kraft felt if Mayo could keep the team together and showing positive momentum end of the year then he would deserve a chance at a second year with a better roster. Instead he blew it, so Kraft is out - but of course he hasn’t told anyone in the media this because it doesn’t help anyone and probably would only make the final home on-field product on Sunday even worse, so he’s just left reporters in the dark with only his last fed info to go off of (that Mayo should be safe, as of several weeks ago). Reporters can probably guess that the recent games may change his mind but they don’t know, so they still have to say “it’s more likely that Mayo returns” etc…

I think there is something to the Vrabel rumors, even though reporters are just connecting dots.

Forget about Gruden. I doubt Ben Johnson is a possibility too, even though that looks like the best direction from a fan's perspective.

Kraft's last hires were people he knew well.

I doubt at this point he turns the team over to a stranger to the organization.
 
Really? You don’t know?

Mayo’s black and Kraft wanted to look good to his rich, snobby friends and neighbors.
I think it was the experience of seeing coach after coach (Flores, Mangini, etc.) get plucked from the Patriots staff. Mayo was drawing interest from other teams and Kraft didn't want to lose another one, especially when he was seeing the end of Belichick coming soon. He saw leadership capabilities in Mayo and we know Mayo was sweet talking old Thundercat. So he wrote the succession plan into Mayo's contract to get him to stay. Mayo didn't leapfrog anyone, he had the promise in his contract first.
 
I think it was the experience of seeing coach after coach (Flores, Mangini, etc.) get plucked from the Patriots staff. Mayo was drawing interest from other teams and Kraft didn't want to lose another one, especially when he was seeing the end of Belichick coming soon. He saw leadership capabilities in Mayo and we know Mayo was sweet talking old Thundercat. So he wrote the succession plan into Mayo's contract to get him to stay. Mayo didn't leapfrog anyone, he had the promise in his contract first.
Yes. But the fact he would be so coveted by other teams and had already wowed them in interviews is why he was so eager to hold him within the organization. But, it was all a mirage. Just good PR.

And Bob knew Mayo would indeed be given opportunities before earning them. It starts with the Rooney Rule.
 
Yes. But the fact he would be so coveted by other teams and had already wowed them in interviews is why he was so eager to hold him within the organization. But, it was all a mirage. Just good PR.

And Bob knew Mayo would indeed be given opportunities before earning them. It starts with the Rooney Rule.
Yeah, I get what you're saying, but I think it's more of an add on rather than the reason Kraft hired him. I don't think there was ever real talk of hiring Vrabel or anyone else once Kraft made the decision to oust Bill. But that's because there was already Mayo's contract.
 
Kraft is probably shell shocked. But he was once an astute, even courageous businessman. I know he’s a doddering old fool. It happens.

Taking all those little blue pills to keep up with his much, much younger wife.

But the old lion can come back out.

After the Chargers game I have no doubt Bob is firing Mayo and burning it down. Expect a guy to come in here with actual head coaching experience.

Vrabel, Brian Flores. Hell, they may even do due diligence on Chucky himself (Jon Gruden).

Mayo, you didn’t EARN it. Now you’ll have to go back to tv and a corporate sinecure office.

That would be a pleasant surprise. I suspect he’s mostly running it back.
 
Yes. But the fact he would be so coveted by other teams and had already wowed them in interviews is why he was so eager to hold him within the organization. But, it was all a mirage. Just good PR.

And Bob knew Mayo would indeed be given opportunities before earning them. It starts with the Rooney Rule.

I think it was the experience of seeing coach after coach (Flores, Mangini, etc.) get plucked from the Patriots staff. Mayo was drawing interest from other teams and Kraft didn't want to lose another one, especially when he was seeing the end of Belichick coming soon. He saw leadership capabilities in Mayo and we know Mayo was sweet talking old Thundercat. So he wrote the succession plan into Mayo's contract to get him to stay. Mayo didn't leapfrog anyone, he had the promise in his contract first.

In a sense Kraft has the same weaknesses as Mayo.

Limited exposure to other ways of doing things.

Bill brought in "like" people to the organization for two decades.

Kraft seems to have little knowledge about the pool of possibilities around the league, so he was more apt to jump at Mayo.
 
In a sense Kraft has the same weaknesses as Mayo.

Limited exposure to other ways of doing things.

Bill brought in "like" people to the organization for two decades.

Kraft seems to have little knowledge about the pool of possibilities around the league, so he was more apt to jump at Mayo.
Well, he hired Parcells... who led him to Bill... who led him to Mayo. How did Pete get in there?
 
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