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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Trade trade trade trade the pick. Trade it.The knot at the top of the draft order / remaining games
1 Las Vegas (2 - 12) Jaguars, Saints, Chargers
2 NY Giants (2 - 12) Falcons, Colts, Eagles
3 New England (3 - 11) Bills, Chargers, Bills
4 Jacksonville (3 - 11) Raiders, Titans, Colts
5 Carolina (3 - 11) Cardinals, Buccaneers, Falcons
6 Tennessee (3 - 11) Colts, Jaguars, Texans
7 Cleveland (3 - 11) Bengals, Dolphins, Ravens
8 NY Jets (4 - 10) Rams, Bills, Dolphins
9 Chicago (4 - 10) Lions, Seahawks, Packers
Jacksonville looks like the have the easiest remaining schedule... based on who we are playing vs who they finish out with, they might be able to jump us in the draft order based on strength of schedule... I have not gone and calculated / projected anything regarding that number, so who honestly knows how it will play out...
It is the reason why I would like the see the jags beat the raiders this week... let them move to 4 wins, it basically locks raiders/giants into the 1/2 spot (though that might flip based on sos)...then we really only have to worry about the panthers over taking us... worst case, we are picking 4th...
though in the 4th spot, we will miss out on Travis Hunter if that happens
1/2 - both will be quarterbacks
Panthers: I don't know what they "need" but its hard to see them passing on BPA, which is Hunter, based on what I've read...
Carter is a bigger and not much slower Parsons. He can play all over the front of a Defense. Like Parsons, he was only moved to Edge his last season. He can play OLB/ILB/SS and can play Edge if needed. How many of us would pass on a talent that could possibly be what Micah Parsons is?If we sign Tee Higgins free agency. Defense comes into play given the lack of an elite OT.
Abdul Carter - LB - PSU
I watch every PSU game. He’s too light to be an edge IMO. Can move him all over and he’ll you get off the field on 3rd down.
Mason Graham DT Michigan
Him and Barmore would be a great combo at DT. If we sign a good edge in free agency like Demarcus Lawrence. He’d be a good fit.
sell sell sellTrade trade trade trade the pick. Trade it.
Key to me is getting another first next year. A potentially very good QB class. Which will cause other players to drop. Or, another trade back.sell sell sell
Maye needs to come down with an illness just before game time.
Key to me is getting another first next year. A potentially very good QB class. Which will cause other players to drop. Or, another trade back.
100%. I am a seller at #1, #2 or probably #3.sell sell sell
He has that type of upside but not as sure a thing as Parsons was. He's and option if you have 1 and trade down or drafting where Hunter is not available. He will be a good pass rusher for sure, he struggles a bit against the run, missed tackle rate almost 20% is really high. Can he be a 3 down player or just a pass rush specialist? The off the field stuff have to look at as well.Carter is a bigger and not much slower Parsons. He can play all over the front of a Defense. Like Parsons, he was only moved to Edge his last season. He can play OLB/ILB/SS and can play Edge if needed. How many of us would pass on a talent that could possibly be what Micah Parsons is?
Except for Maye and Gonzo, every other position is a position of need. That's where we're at right now.He has that type of upside but not as sure a thing as Parsons was. He's and option if you have 1 and trade down or drafting where Hunter is not available. He will be a good pass rusher for sure, he struggles a bit against the run, missed tackle rate almost 20% is really high. Can he be a 3 down player or just a pass rush specialist? The off the field stuff have to look at as well.
Much depends on what they fill in free agency. Could come down to Banks vs Carter and then come down to what edge rusher and what Offensive lineman are signed in free agency.
He fills a huge need, but they have several Huge needs.
2023 Draft: Gonzalez, White, Boutte, Douglas. Since most teams average 2 players per draft not sure how getting 4 starters is a bad draft?If we hang on to the #1, there is zero confidence with our front office to make decisions that will impact this team for the future.. after the last 3 sucky drafts time to bring in some new blood to start to remake this team.
I only sell if I get a 2026 1st, which will probably only be possible for a QB at 1 or 2. Otherwise I'm taking Hunter. The drop off from Hunter to the next group of prospects is too big to pass on.100%. I am a seller at #1, #2 or probably #3.
I want this year's first and multiple years firsts, depending on how far back the drop is. Obviously, it's hard to get a ransom if you're dropping from 1 to 3. Dropping outside the top 3 should net a haul. Let's say the Raiders covet Sanders. They should be able to get multiple firsts, maybe even multiple second rounders for that pick.I only sell if I get a 2026 1st, which will probably only be possible for a QB at 1 or 2. Otherwise I'm taking Hunter. The drop off from Hunter to the next group of prospects is too big to pass on.
I agree.
What they can do is make sure the younger guys play a ton of snaps. Baker and Polk, Wallace. Unfortunately, I don't think you can start Joe MIlton under the guise you want to see what he has. You can also not play anyone that is questionable with injury under the guise you don't want to aggravate anything going into the off season.
Honestly, I think without Drake Maye, the Mitch Trubisky Bills would still be favored. You can only sit so many guys, the roster is not that big and the guys playing for them will be hungry to win without some key starters.
Odds are low that Pats lose that game though. But maybe that embarrassment, if it did happen, gets Mayo fired?
Can we convince another team’s owner to give us a treasure trove of picks? Is this thing an owner?
Yes
Can we convince another team’s owner to give us a treasure trove of picks? Is this thing an owner?
Yes
Yeah maybe. Bryce Young got a package that was outrageous and dumb so never know.I want this year's first and multiple years firsts, depending on how far back the drop is. Obviously, it's hard to get a ransom if you're dropping from 1 to 3. Dropping outside the top 3 should net a haul. Let's say the Raiders covet Sanders. They should be able to get multiple firsts, maybe even multiple second rounders for that pick.
2023 Draft: Gonzalez, White, Boutte, Douglas. Since most teams average 2 players per draft not sure how getting 4 starters is a bad draft?
2024, I get the failure in drafting Polk, but Maye and Robinson are starting.
I don't think they have been great by any means but 2021 was when the "collaborative" effort started but still unclear how much was mainly BB
2021: Barmore and Rham
2022: Marcus Jones, Cole Strange
2023: Gonzalez, White, Boutte, Douglas.
2024: Maye, Robinson, potentially Wallace and every other pick made the team and UDFA Pettus is playing well.
We like to trash them, and I get it, but based on the actual results they have been pretty much league average drafting so, yeah, I doubt they will mess up a top 3 pick because the average GM, not drafting a QB, hits on that at a high level.
Yeah, they over-drafted Strange, reached on Mac Jones, missed Ladd but that's atypical most NFL teams.
Looks like the kid playing the banjo on the bridge in the “Deliverance”Can we convince another team’s owner to give us a treasure trove of picks? Is this thing an owner?
Yes
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