PostGame Thread Patriots Lose to The Cardinals 30-17 in Arizona

[Jim Beankie]

2. A bunch of old veterans who were past their prime and slow, so teams like the Bills sliced through them easily.

*Unless the wind sliced them 1st like that 3-pass game.

 

[The Gr8est]

There was an article Saturday from Diana Russini that says Kraft has shared that he wants to give Mayo a chance to grow into the job.
We are screwed.

Sorry Drake.

Krafty had to choose between developing Mayo or you and he chose Mayo.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Sorry Drake.

Krafty had to choose between developing Mayo or you and he chose Mayo.

Unfortunately. More than anything
Letting Mayo go would mean RK would be eating the remaining years of Mayos and most likely the whole coaching staff’s contract’s. Then paying a new HC and the new staff he brings in their salaries. This after just paying BB after he was fired.
We know that won’t happen.
He will continue to eat at Crapplebee’s for a year because his pocket says so
Did we learn anything about the man from Orchid’s of Asia
So I guess we could say Kraft won’t can Mayo to help Maye because of a little thing called back Pay

 

[dliverey44]

Sorry Drake.

Krafty had to choose between developing Mayo or you and he chose Mayo.

I am pretty sure she reported that prior to the Arizona game. Hopefully that **** show of a game and the following presser are enough to make the Krafts question the leadership of the franchise.

Edit: I read that the Jets really want Vrabes so maybe that will kick the Krafts in the ass to make a move so they don't miss out on him forever.

 

[Love The Drake]

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May of been Krafts biggest fumble.

 

[Brewskies]

It us not so much the losing.

Imagine the players complaining that the OC does not have a winning strategy for the game? How about Mayo, the defacto Head Coach agreeing with the players' complaints. Bob Kraft has really screwed up this team.

 

[oceansizer]

Keeping Mayo as our coach is like a Kraft's challenge between his superego and the team's weal. Unfortunately first option seems to be more realistic.

 

[Mike the Brit]

Hey at least he didn't start the game with a Stevenson run up the middle like I thought he would.

Have you noticed, cap'n, that the opening drives (the pre-scripted ones) are now slightly more varied? Once the game gets going, it's still back to Captain Obvious, though.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

Have you noticed, cap'n, that the opening drives (the pre-scripted ones) are now slightly more varied? Once the first drive stalls due to penalties and missed assignments, it's still back to Captain Obvious, though.

The first few plays against Ariz were great, the team was moving the ball with aggressive play calls. Then penalties and bad line play stopped the drive and ruined the mojo. I adjusted the post accordingly.

 

[Real fan 02]

Bring in Joe Brady as HC. offer him the moon, the stars, and the sun.
Keep AVP as OC, but Brady calls the plays.
Steal Jim Schwartz away from Cleveland as Defensive Coordinator. If you can't get him, get Robert Saleh.

Get people who have proven they can call plays!

My choice is Vrabel HC, dabol OC, wilks DC. I like the OC to also be play caller as he's the guy who designs the offense.

 

[Love The Drake]

My choice is Vrabel HC, dabol OC, wilks DC. I like the OC to also be play caller as he's the guy who designs the offense.

I would be happy as Vrabel as the HC and McDaniels, Daboll as the Oc.
Vrabel can oversee the defense with whoever he sees fit.

 

[Vindicate]

I would be happy as Vrabel as the HC and McDaniels, Daboll as the Oc.
Vrabel can oversee the defense with whoever he sees fit.

It's no secret that I don't care for Vrabel as an HC here, I'd rather avoid it, BUT, I pose question this genuinely:

Given Vrabel's documented stubborn nature and him willing to push against a GM or owner, do we think Kraft would be willing to put up with that?

 

[Love The Drake]

It's no secret that I don't care for Vrabel as an HC here, I'd rather avoid it, BUT, I pose question this genuinely:

Given Vrabel's documented stubborn nature and him willing to push against a GM or owner, do we think Kraft would be willing to put up with that?

To win, yes and he can’t be any worse than BB.
Maybe Vrabel has respect for the Krafts that he wouldn’t be such a jerk.
Plus someone who is a jerk is what this team needs.

 

[Real fan 02]

I would be happy as Vrabel as the HC and McDaniels, Daboll as the Oc.
Vrabel can oversee the defense with whoever he sees fit.

Yes. Vrabel could bring in wilks as a steady veteran presence. Wilks had that SF defense humming all the way to the superbowl last season. McDaniels is inter becu he still lives in Massachusetts and he is likely waiting for an opportunity that makes Sense for him. OC would be great!

 

[Love The Drake]

Yes. Vrabel could bring in wilks as a steady veteran presence. Wilks had that SF defense humming all the way to the superbowl last season. McDaniels is inter becu he still lives in Massachusetts and he is likely waiting for an opportunity that makes Sense for him. OC would be great!

I think this is the best thing we could hope for and Kraft needs to pull the trigger because rumor is Chicago and NYJ also want Vrabel.

 

[Real fan 02]

I think this is the best thing we could hope for and Kraft needs to pull the trigger because rumor is Chicago and NYJ also want Vrabel.

Yes and that's what I'm worried about losing out too. Vrabel going elsewhere. I really want him as our New HC. He should have been the guy anyways.

 

[Mike the Brit]

The first few plays against Ariz were great, the team was moving the ball with aggressive play calls. Then penalties and bad line play stopped the drive and ruined the mojo. I adjusted the post accordingly.

"Great" is an overstatement. "Not as terrible as when AVP has to think on his feet" would be my language.

If you have good coaches but bad personnel, you try everything to scheme around your weaknesses and keep the other team off-balance.

This is just what Arizona was doing with its defensive formations, stunts and blitzes.

If you don't have anything to play for, at least imaginative coaching keeps games open and interesting -- and it gets the fans excited. Instead, AVP and Covington are playing pre-season football.

The two of them REALLY MUST go -- along with Wolf, who oversaw the shambles of an off-season, and Stevens, whose linemen can't line up, start on time, snap the ball or not give up holding penalties.

The only really interesting thing is watching Drake Maye improvise his way out of the poor situations he's been put in. The defense is simply abject and humiliating.

Here -- biting his tongue and keeping as loyal as he can on the Patriots' own website -- is Evan Lazar:

Until further notice, New England's best hope of having an explosive offense is to leverage Maye's physical tools as much as possible to put stress on the defense. Instead, the game plan vs. Arizona called for nearly three-fourths of Maye's pass attempts to travel under 10 air yards, with seven screen passes on 29 drop-backs. Maye averaged -0.8 air yards per pass attempt in the first quarter. At the half, it was -0.6 air yards/attempt until they finally opened it up in the second half, where Maye went 9-of-13 for 131 yards on 12.1 air yards per pass attempt.​

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Most of those second-half passing yards came in garbage time, where the Pats QB1 himself admitted that Arizona began playing basic coverages to keep the top on the defense. Still, the opening script for this game wasn't one for a toolsy dual-threat quarterback, and we haven't even touched on the fact that the Pats once again passed up opportunities to incorporate Maye's mobility into a short-yardage red zone scenario that ended in a turnover on downs at the ARI 4.​

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"We have quarterback-designed runs, just haven't pulled them out yet, so there's no disagreement. We're all on the same page. Alex and the offensive staff do a good job putting together the game plan. I go in there, I offer my two cents, and we come out of the room as a unit, all on the same page," Coach Mayo told reporters during his Monday morning video conference.​

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PostGame Thread - Patriots Lose to The Cardinals 30-17 in Arizona

2. A bunch of old veterans who were past their prime and slow, so teams like the Bills sliced through them easily. *Unless the wind sliced them 1st like that 3-pass game.

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Instead, they'll probably extend Brissett and sack Lazar for pointing out the obvious.

 

[Love The Drake]

It’s been really quiet from the Patriots.
Thoughts?

 

[Real fan 02]

It’s been really quiet from the Patriots.
Thoughts?

Something is brewing.. I know they typically have the team pressers on Wednesdays?

 

[Love The Drake]

Something is brewing.. I know they typically have the team pressers on Wednesdays?

I hope we aren’t getting excited for nothing and Kraft comes out arm to arm with a ringing endorsement for Jerod.