In Game Adjustments, or the Lack Thereof

[Force Zero Boomer]

If you believe in their ability, yes.

This is the NFL. Coaches get head coaching positions not by belief in potential, but by compelling demonstration of competency, either as an NFL coordinator, a HC in college or previous success as an NFL HC. You can wait for a 6th round QB prospect to develop, it's just one man on the 53. But a good HC is essential to a team's success from day one, and Kraft has put us in the position of seeing if our near zero experience HC will ultimately pan out, while we waste years of Drake Maye's career.

Mayo is demonstrating gross incompetence with basics like time management and even field direction. He has made mind-bogglingly awful strategic decisions. In-game adjustments are nonexistent. Screw his potential ability. The signs aren't there. We can't afford to wait.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

He will last as long as mayo.. I think you're gonna see wold and groh in the line before mayo and his guys..

"The groceries are bad" will be his play.

 

[pats99]

I'm guilty of doing this like many fans. I think we get so caught up in wanting the team to win every game that them being a 32nd ranked roster with the 3rd overall pick, all new coaching staff keeps getting forgotten. There is growth in each game that's what we all have to take from it. Once the roster gets built to compete everything this season the coaching staff and players alike will greatly benefit from.

"Once the roster gets built to compete everything this season the coaching staff and players alike will greatly benefit from."

Bad coaches will always benefit from a better roster, but they could still be a bad coach. The thing is a head coach should be held at a different standard to players. Why because compared to the average player their credibilty as a leader, decisions and performance significantly affect everything about the franchise. Win/loss record, playoffs, ability to attract free agents, fan base, merchandise and yes, a rookie who lloks the part as a franchise quarterback.

I can't think of one thing that Mayo (and Wolf to some degree) has done well, or shows any progress towards doing well. Xand O's, handling the media, free agents, and just being credible as a leader have all been a big fail. How about taking some responsibility for your play calling instead of just calling out people/team in public for their execution on the field. Perhaps ~ transparency ~ only pertains to your players, not your performance.

Hey Real fan, i do get what you are saying that we should have the patience till the roster is better, I just don't think thats going to make enough of a difference with this guy at the helm, and frankly i don't want to wait two years to find out. I don't expect miracles, just progress. And regarding Maye's progress i can't say for sure but is his progress despite of the coaching he is getting or becuase of it ?

 

[Real fan 02]

"Once the roster gets built to compete everything this season the coaching staff and players alike will greatly benefit from."

Bad coaches will always benefit from a better roster, but they could still be a bad coach. The thing is a head coach should be held at a different standard to players. Why because compared to the average player their credibilty as a leader, decisions and performance significantly affect everything about the franchise. Win/loss record, playoffs, ability to attract free agents, fan base, merchandise and yes, a rookie who lloks the part as a franchise quarterback.

I can't think of one thing that Mayo (and Wolf to some degree) has done well, or shows any progress towards doing well. Xand O's, handling the media, free agents, and just being credible as a leader have all been a big fail. How about taking some responsibility for your play calling instead of just calling out people/team in public for their execution on the field. Perhaps ~ transparency ~ only pertains to your players, not your performance.

Hey Real fan, i do get what you are saying that we should have the patience till the roster is better, I just don't think thats going to make enough of a difference with this guy at the helm, and frankly i don't want to wait two years to find out. I don't expect miracles, just progress. And regarding Maye's progress i can't say for sure but is his progress despite of the coaching he is getting or becuase of it ?

Honestly this is something we all should have expected..from an all new staff, the roster basically starting anew with everything. In some aspects Mayo's gotten better with media and making it firm that on coaching decisions with the roster he's the one making them. But I also see what your saying alot of questions on the HC and rightfully so. I believe drake's progress has gotten better despite the coaching he has been the only reason to watch this season.

 

[TommyD4207]

Honestly this is something we all should have expected..from an all new staff, the roster basically starting anew with everything. In some aspects Mayo's gotten better with media and making it firm that on coaching decisions with the roster he's the one making them. But I also see what your saying alot of questions on the HC and rightfully so. I believe drake's progress has gotten better despite the coaching he has been the only reason to watch this season.

Sunday: "I thought we were in control of the game" Jerod Mayo
They were down 2 scores in the 4th quarter.

 

[Real fan 02]

Sunday: "I thought we were in control of the game" Jerod Mayo
They were down 2 scores in the 4th quarter.

I know... ...

 

[captain stone]

I can understand when the players are overmatched... sometimes that **** happens but you have to try something different when what you are doing isn't working, you know? its frustrating that we don't... we stick with the plan... jfc, stab me in the eye with a pencil...

sticking Gonzo on the left and leaving him there the entire game... kupp and nacua just snacked on the secondary like the blues brothers in chez paul by - guess what - avoiding him... ugh... no changes, no nothing... can't say for sure for the whole game, but was there even an attempt to double one of them up? oof...

Watching the game live, I was able to more-clearly observe Gonzo once it became apparent that Stafford was feeding Kupp & Nacua without opposition; and yeah he seemed to stay on one side right up to the snap and hardly ever if ever followed either of them in motion...

Covington sucks; he's in way, Way over his head here. Completely Unqualified for the job.

And I still don't like the CBs & Safeties coaches either.

 

[captain stone]

Let's hope he learns in the Unemployment line on Black Monday.

Are we really going to accept a situation where our *coaches* have to learn? Really?

Bingo.

I am sick to ****ING DEATH of watching almost EVERYONE on our coaching staph AND front orifice having to be given ON-THE-****ING-JOB TRAINING here This is the ****ing NFL, not the ****ing local union hall or some ****ing place! LEARN YOUR ****ING TRADE ELSEWHERE, THIS IS THE ****ING WINNING NOW BUSINESS.

 

[Patjew]

Are we really going to accept a situation where our *coaches* have to learn? Really?

Everyone should be learning and improving all the time.

 

[turkeyneck]

If Mayo actually thinks up "in-game" adjustments it's on the following Wednesday -- like George Costanza coming up with devastating comebacks in a slagging contest days later than they can be deployed.

 

[sportnik]

In a league where very few teams hire a Head Coach from the defensive side of the ball, it's inexcusable to have a defense that is underperforming, unable to adjust & getting worse by the week.

There is absolutely no point in having Mayo continue as HC. He adds no absolutely no value. He can't coach the O. He can't coach the D. He calls himself a "CEO" coach, unburdened by the distraction of play calling, yet he has absolutely no command over the game & costs the team points every week with boneheaded game management decisions.

If Thundercat wants to continue to play his "hunch", and waste Maye's rookie contract on a completely unqualified Head Coach, he deserves all the bad karma that is about to come his way.

 

[Real fan 02]

Bingo.

I am sick to ****ING DEATH of watching almost EVERYONE on our coaching staph AND front orifice having to be given ON-THE-****ING-JOB TRAINING here This is the ****ing NFL, not the ****ing local union hall or some ****ing place! LEARN YOUR ****ING TRADE ELSEWHERE, THIS IS THE ****ING WINNING NOW BUSINESS.

It's What happens when you move on from a legendary coach and have draft bust after bust and no TB12 to mitigate it.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Sunday: "I thought we were in control of the game" Jerod Mayo
They were down 2 scores in the 4th quarter.

What is up with Mayo's bizarre soundbites all year long?

Is this what we're going to remember him by?

 

[Real fan 02]

What is up with Mayo's bizarre soundbites all year long?

Is this what we're going to remember him by?

In the first quarter I thought they had some control.. that 2nd drive to score was disastrous.. that's where the game was lost. Other than that I don't see what control they had allowing 4 TDs

 

[Wax Frog]

There is a decision-making concept called the OODA loop, useful in understanding combat situations. Observe, Orient, Decide, Act. One wants one's OODA loop to be as compact as possible, allowing it to be traversed as rapidly as possible. In comparing combatants, noting which can get around his OODA loop faster will tell a lot about who is likely to win. Mayo's OODA loop can be timed with a sun dial.

@Pape @Steve102

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Everyone should be learning and improving all the time.

Sure, but they shouldn't be learning to be competent coaches. They should already be there. This is the NFL. You learn the ropes in lesser positions (position coach -> coordinator -> HC, with perhaps some college experience mixed in). Of course a coach shouldn't stop learning: the NFL is dynamic and you have to change to stay competitive. But *competence* should not be learned at the NFL level, and if it becomes clear a coach isn't ready for primetime, he should be fired. Like Mayo and Covington, for starters.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

What is up with Mayo's bizarre soundbites all year long?

Is this what we're going to remember him by?

He seems totally disconnected from reality. "We had 'em right where we wanted them!"

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Pape.. I analyzed everything with the defense. Covington said he is playing the same defense BB ran along the same principles. The defense has the same issues as the offense they don't create big plays and they fail to execute. It's lack of talent. Outside of gonzo and a healthy Barmore currently there is no play makers. For the life of me they can't stop the run for anything.. what happened to the one of the best run stuffing DTs in Godchaux as he says.

So why wasn't Gonzalez on the Rams' best receiver? Why did they refuse to get out of zone? Whatever their plan was, it was failing and they could not adjust. That's coaching, and Covington sucks.

 

[203Pat]

The zero blitz in the beginning of the second half leaving Jon Jones on an island with Kupp was an insane call and that play basically ended our chances of winning the game. In theory, I understand what they were trying to do with Gonzo due to all motion and creative ways that McVay finds mismatches but not adjusting when it was clear the other corners weren't holding up was mind boggling.

If you go into a game with a plan and you see the plan isn't working in real time you need to adjust.

 

[RobertWeathers]

This is the NFL. Coaches get head coaching positions not by belief in potential, but by compelling demonstration of competency, either as an NFL coordinator, a HC in college or previous success as an NFL HC. You can wait for a 6th round QB prospect to develop, it's just one man on the 53. But a good HC is essential to a team's success from day one, and Kraft has put us in the position of seeing if our near zero experience HC will ultimately pan out, while we waste years of Drake Maye's career.

Mayo is demonstrating gross incompetence with basics like time management and even field direction. He has made mind-bogglingly awful strategic decisions. In-game adjustments are nonexistent. Screw his potential ability. The signs aren't there. We can't afford to wait.

I have a different perspective than you. Good day.