Kraft regrets giving Belichick so much power without “checks and balances” in place.

[ahmed]

That’s exactly how I see it as well. Bill ran that organization, Kraft went along for the ride, when Kraft started to interfere, Bill ruined the team. Bill was thinking long term, get rid of Brady, start a new dynasty. Kraft OBVIOUSLY had to agree, then had sellers remorse. I believe the Mac-adamian nut was forced on Bill, Bill revolted and hired the wrong people to **** over Kraft.

Ever tried your hand at script writing? Though I must warn you, you won't be any good at it.

 

[1960Pats]

He doesn’t. Take away any other coaches best years and players and they are not successful either.

Exactly. Which is why the idea that a coach is anywhere near as valuable as a player is false, especially a QB.

That question came up before so I did a little research on coaches without their best QBs. I came up with 15 of them and Bill was in dead last in winning% and losing seasons (8 to the next guy's 4). Some of the coaches are not on the list because they always had top QBs.

			Non		Regular			Playoffs		Losing
Yrs	Coach		QB Yrs	Won	Lost	%	Won	Lost	%	Seas	%
33	Don	Shula	5	48	22	0.686	10	5	0.667	0	0
16	Joe	Gibbs	7	73	38	0.658	10	3	0.769	1	0.143
14	Mike	Ditka	7	70	41	0.631	2	3	0.4	2	0.286
15	Bill	Cowher	11	104	71	0.594	10	8	0.556	3	0.273
17	John	Harbaugh	11	104	72	0.591	10	6	0.625	1	0.091
25	Andy	Reid	8	75	53	0.586	2	4	0.333	1	0.125
17	Mike	Tomlin	5	48	34	0.585	0	3	0	0	0
13	Tony	Dungy	6	54	42	0.563	2	4	0.333	1	0.167
17	Marvin	Lewis	9	84	72	0.538	0	6	0	0	7
8	Doug	Pederson	7	60	53	0.531	4	2	0.667	2	0.286
17	Hank	Stram	3	21	19	0.525	7	3	0.7	1	0.333
19	Bill	Parcells	11	88	87	0.503	2	2	0.5	4	0.364
18	Pete	Carroll	8	65	65	0.500	1	2	0.333	3	0.375
23	Chuck	Noll	9	70	73	0.490	4	3	0.571	4	0.444
29	Bill	Belichick	11	81	98	0.453	1	2	0.333	8	0.73

 

[ahmed]

Belichick is just like Brady, he hates to lose, and the only time I saw him lose on purpose was when he had Brady chuck it into the stands against Miami so they could meet Jacksonville in the first round of the playoffs, so that was strategic. I don’t believe he would ever tarnish his legacy by losing on purpose. I agree that he hates Kraft, I just don’t believe he would deliberately tarnish his own legacy to get at him.

It is an insane take.

 

[ahmed]

F.U. Robert. This 20/20 hindsight crap you're pulling after BB made you Billions is ridiculous.

You confused your Bs. You mean after Brady made him billions....

 

[Tunescribe]

Exactly. Which is why the idea that a coach is anywhere near as valuable as a player is false, especially a QB.

That question came up before so I did a little research on coaches without their best QBs. I came up with 15 of them and Bill was in dead last in winning% and losing seasons (8 to the next guy's 4). Some of the coaches are not on the list because they always had top QBs.

			Non		Regular			Playoffs		Losing
Yrs	Coach		QB Yrs	Won	Lost	%	Won	Lost	%	Seas	%
33	Don	Shula	5	48	22	0.686	10	5	0.667	0	0
16	Joe	Gibbs	7	73	38	0.658	10	3	0.769	1	0.143
14	Mike	Ditka	7	70	41	0.631	2	3	0.4	2	0.286
15	Bill	Cowher	11	104	71	0.594	10	8	0.556	3	0.273
17	John	Harbaugh	11	104	72	0.591	10	6	0.625	1	0.091
25	Andy	Reid	8	75	53	0.586	2	4	0.333	1	0.125
17	Mike	Tomlin	5	48	34	0.585	0	3	0	0	0
13	Tony	Dungy	6	54	42	0.563	2	4	0.333	1	0.167
17	Marvin	Lewis	9	84	72	0.538	0	6	0	0	7
8	Doug	Pederson	7	60	53	0.531	4	2	0.667	2	0.286
17	Hank	Stram	3	21	19	0.525	7	3	0.7	1	0.333
19	Bill	Parcells	11	88	87	0.503	2	2	0.5	4	0.364
18	Pete	Carroll	8	65	65	0.500	1	2	0.333	3	0.375
23	Chuck	Noll	9	70	73	0.490	4	3	0.571	4	0.444
29	Bill	Belichick	11	81	98	0.453	1	2	0.333	8	0.73

Note that BB is the only coach on that list whose top quarterback played 20 years. Considering the relatively short periods before/after (Cleveland and New England), there weren't many years consecutively to find and/or develop a winning QB. That is, especially considering the ground-up rebuild job in Cleveland.

 

[ahmed]

Where is the drop off in the Front 7? Now you are making more excuses. Excuses are like Asian ****ies, they make my skin crawl.

Is this some sort of dumb ass joke or just the casual racism it comes off as?

 

[Clonamery]

You confused your Bs. You mean after Brady made him billions....

Not either or.

 

[1960Pats]

Note that BB is the only coach on that list whose top quarterback played 20 years. Considering the relatively short periods before/after (Cleveland and New England), there weren't many years consecutively to find and/or develop a winning QB.

Bill didn't think he needed a top QB to win but he probably softened on that a bit. It seems like the league has now gotten to the point where the best QB wins. Personally, I like the running game and defense but those are less important than ever.

 

[1960Pats]

Is this some sort of dumb ass joke or just the casual racism it comes off as?

I couldn't do Asian jokes for a while. One of our daughters in law was born and raised in Beijing. They recently moved to LA so I'm free.

I hate getting in fights with Chinese guys. In an hour I want to fight them again.

 

[Tunescribe]

Excuses are like Asian ****ies, they make my skin crawl.

Didn't you post recently that you have three Asian girlfriends? Or is that exclusively for manual servicing?

 

[RobertWeathers]

There is kosher alcohol? Thought it was just food.

At least I have learned something from this dumb ass 300 reply thread.

Yes, I occasionally cannot help but take part in these dumb ass threads...

Yep! I'm married to a Jew and they do have decent whiskeys.

...and there is such a thing as a decent kosher wine. This is especially good.

Yaacov Oryah A Place by the Sea 2021

This 100% Merlot from Yaacov Oryah was produced exclusively for KosherWine.com

www.kosherwine.com

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

They are missing Barmore, Judon and Bentley.

If you are saying they are better this year then we are done here.

Of course the defensive product on the field is worse.

When the team traded away Judon and only signed Takitaki and Hawkins, the defense was worse on the field before the season even started. We could have had Judon, Wilkins, Simmons, and Gilmore on the field right now. That is poor roster management.

Injuries always happen. Last year we lost Judon, Gonzo, and M. Jones by this point in the season. We still were a Top 10 defense last year. We are a Top 20 defense right now. That is poor coaching.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Is this some sort of dumb ass joke or just the casual racism it comes off as?

OH the racist police are on duty. Let me guess, you look for racists under your pillow every night. When in doubt call someone a racist.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Didn't you post recently that you have three Asian girlfriends? Or is that exclusively for manual servicing?

You have been around for a long time so I would have thought you would understood.

 

[Pape]

You confused your Bs. You mean after Brady made him billions....

You confuse your B's. You mean after Belichick and Brady made him billions...

There is no Brady without Belichick.

and because two things can be true at the same time...

There is no Belichick without Brady.

Without either one of them, Bob doesn't make his extra billions that winning Championships bring.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

So dear readers,

**** off to all who walk this destructive path of one or the other.

It was Mother****ing BOTH.

for some incomprehensible reason, this seems to be a very hard thing for some to fathom.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

and apologies ahmed, that was not entirely directed at you.

 

[XLIX]

In 1995 Dr Z picked them to play Dallas in the SB

Some jerkoff picking a team to win the Super Bowl does not make them “a Super Bowl contender.”

 

[lancerman]

Exactly. Which is why the idea that a coach is anywhere near as valuable as a player is false, especially a QB.

That question came up before so I did a little research on coaches without their best QBs. I came up with 15 of them and Bill was in dead last in winning% and losing seasons (8 to the next guy's 4). Some of the coaches are not on the list because they always had top QBs.

			Non		Regular			Playoffs		Losing
Yrs	Coach		QB Yrs	Won	Lost	%	Won	Lost	%	Seas	%
33	Don	Shula	5	48	22	0.686	10	5	0.667	0	0
16	Joe	Gibbs	7	73	38	0.658	10	3	0.769	1	0.143
14	Mike	Ditka	7	70	41	0.631	2	3	0.4	2	0.286
15	Bill	Cowher	11	104	71	0.594	10	8	0.556	3	0.273
17	John	Harbaugh	11	104	72	0.591	10	6	0.625	1	0.091
25	Andy	Reid	8	75	53	0.586	2	4	0.333	1	0.125
17	Mike	Tomlin	5	48	34	0.585	0	3	0	0	0
13	Tony	Dungy	6	54	42	0.563	2	4	0.333	1	0.167
17	Marvin	Lewis	9	84	72	0.538	0	6	0	0	7
8	Doug	Pederson	7	60	53	0.531	4	2	0.667	2	0.286
17	Hank	Stram	3	21	19	0.525	7	3	0.7	1	0.333
19	Bill	Parcells	11	88	87	0.503	2	2	0.5	4	0.364
18	Pete	Carroll	8	65	65	0.500	1	2	0.333	3	0.375
23	Chuck	Noll	9	70	73	0.490	4	3	0.571	4	0.444
29	Bill	Belichick	11	81	98	0.453	1	2	0.333	8	0.73

Exactly. Bill is a tail of two coaches.

 

[XLIX]

There is kosher alcohol? Thought it was just food.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Some jerkoff picking a team to win the Super Bowl does not make them “a Super Bowl contender.”

Same as someone saying they weren't.

Seems you don't know who he was. Shame. He was the best analyst ever.

 

[Pape]

Same as someone saying they weren't.

Seems you don't know who he was. Shame. He was the best analyst ever.

Miss that guy... required reading... was one of the things that made SI special back in the day.