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Damien Woody's take on Maye timetable - its correct.

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I wonder if there's something to the coaches attempting to instill discipline onto Maye? It's one thing to say "You won't play until you do these things right" rather than "You're the starter, but try to get your footwork right".
I guess In my opinion it would be all on the make up and maturity of the QB.. for example Zach Wilson had thr give no Fs attitude and still had alot if maturing to do. So that played a role in how he played reckless on the field.. Drake to me appears more mature, humble and level headed.

As I've said... The organization knows Drake is ready.
 
Mayo knows his QB is ready.. you can see in his face he's tired of watching bow and arrow man... but has to toe the line..
A lot of the commentary from Mayo the past couple weeks, to me, reads as "Maye is the guy in week 5 at home against Miami but I can't say that yet". I would be kinda surprised if Brissett is still starting in week 5 at this point. Of course, I suppose that could change if there's a big upset or change this weekend.
 
I guess In my opinion it would be all on the make up and maturity of the QB.. for example Zach Wilson had thr give no Fs attitude and still had alot if maturing to do. So that played a role in how he played reckless on the field.. Drake to me appears more mature, humble and level headed.

As I've said... The organization knows Drake is ready.

Zach Wilson is a turd, but he is still a cautionary tale. He is the extreme of what can happen when you rush a QB out there too quickly. Bryce Young could be a better comp. Hell, maybe even Trevor Lawrence.

I am not sure if the organization thinks Maye is ready yet, but reports are very positive about him based on Mark Daniels' recent report. He may start sooner than later, but I am guessing we are at least several more weeks before we see him. I think we are still at least a month from seeing him. I could be wrong, but being encouraged by his play in practice isn't necessarily meaning he is ready.
 
Zach Wilson is a turd, but he is still a cautionary tale. He is the extreme of what can happen when you rush a QB out there too quickly. Bryce Young could be a better comp. Hell, maybe even Trevor Lawrence.

I am not sure if the organization thinks Maye is ready yet, but reports are very positive about him based on Mark Daniels' recent report. He may start sooner than later, but I am guessing we are at least several more weeks before we see him. I think we are still at least a month from seeing him. I could be wrong, but being encouraged by his play in practice isn't necessarily meaning he is ready.
Based on Curran, Perry, reisss and others like Mark Daniels who really put thier heart n souls into sports journalism.. reporting is people high up in the organization are highly impressed with Drake and expect him to be starting soon.

When a QB is drafted they go through the offseason program, minicamp and all the neccessary things to groom a young QB.. including training camp. So with that being said to name Bryce, Daniels, CJ , nix starting QB after all that means those organizations felt they had enough to support them.

Our organization knows they are in a rebuild, knows the O-line is probablematic, and still have the situation with Mac fresh on thier minds.

They know drake is ready however currently don't have the line to protect him.
 
A lot of the commentary from Mayo the past couple weeks, to me, reads as "Maye is the guy in week 5 at home against Miami but I can't say that yet". I would be kinda surprised if Brissett is still starting in week 5 at this point. Of course, I suppose that could change if there's a big upset or change this weekend.
It feels that way. AVP to that point sounds even more optimistic on maye saying how's he's been great and looks good. Of course we can't definitely say he will be starting. Even if we pull out a win Sunday I don't expect to do anything impressive. He's been tough, and all but a starting QB has to produce more than 368, TD in 3 games. Dalton had more than that last week.

Week 5 is a great spot at home for Drake to start. Especially with the GOAT calling the game
 
Breer made the argument that if they weren't letting injury decide, they would sign another vet QB to be the backup in case of Brissett injury. So I think you might be right there.
If they think playing him now would harm his development or would have too much injury risk, there is no excuse for the absence of a vet QB on this roster. Given this OL, JB could go down at any time and that injury risk instantly transfers to Maye.

If they think playing him now would not harm his development or admit unnecessary injury risk, then why isn't he playing?

This defies logic.
 
They know drake is ready however currently don't have the line to protect him.
Then why is he the backup QB? If JB goes down (probably due to the OL), the line doesn't instantly get better, does it? If the line is good enough for the future of the franchise to be QB2, and they think he's ready, he should be starting NOW.
 
Then why is he the backup QB? If JB goes down (probably due to the OL), the line doesn't instantly get better, does it? If the line is good enough for the future of the franchise to be QB2, and they think he's ready, he should be starting NOW.
You answered your own question. He's the back becuase he's ready. If he wasn't ready he would have been stashed and Zappe would have been kept as the veteran Back up QB. Not Drake. I agree he should be starting now.. drake's quick development has been a revelation
 
Then why is he the backup QB? If JB goes down (probably due to the OL), the line doesn't instantly get better, does it? If the line is good enough for the future of the franchise to be QB2, and they think he's ready, he should be starting NOW.
I think they're just a little scurred and gunshy.
 
They need to get it cleaned up though. They got their asses kicked in the Super Bowl against TB because their OL wasn't good. It could catch up to them at some point. There could be some team in the AFC or NFC that has a pass rush that ends up exploiting it. Even Tom in 2019 got to a point where he started throwing many passes in the dirt because he didn't trust the OL and/or WR's.
KC lost in the Super Bowl because they faced a caliber of QB like Brady. All their other Super Bowl wins were against JAGs. Hurts might be different (we will have to see), but the Alabama taint is there.

I recall one game in 2019 where Dorsett ran the wrong route. It was one of those option deals where Dorsett went the wrong way. Brady came to the sideline ripping Dorsett and telling the OC that he was done with his axx the rest of the game.
 
I think they're just a little scurred and gunshy.
If that’s true, Wolf and Mayo should be fired now. We do not want leadership that lets fear corrupt decision-making.

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
 
You answered your own question. He's the back becuase he's ready. If he wasn't ready he would have been stashed and Zappe would have been kept as the veteran Back up QB. Not Drake. I agree he should be starting now.. drake's quick development has been a revelation
You think the line is good enough?
 
If that’s true, Wolf and Mayo should be fired now. We do not want leadership that lets fear corrupt decision-making.

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
 
Maybe they're waiting for Sow and Strange to come back or maybe have a plan for a trade, we'll see.
They aren't making any trades at least not as buyers (see Judon).
 
Maybe they're waiting for Sow and Strange to come back or maybe have a plan for a trade, we'll see.
Sure, but if the line isn’t good enough for him to start now, it isn’t good enough for QB2 either. He could be forced in at any time. That’s the center of this: if they think the line isn’t up to protecting him and that’s why they aren’t starting him, the fact that they have him as QB2 while the opposition is splatting the starter is inconceivable.
 
Their Plan Sucks he's listed as the #2 QB when Brissett goes down which is inevitable what will they do?? You agree with the "Sit Him for a Year Plan" to sit him for a year where's the Vet QB to take over when Brissett goes down?? Obviously Playing him now in this scenario goes against everything you believe you can't have it both ways. When Brissett goes down what are you going to say?? Maye earned the right to play??

No franchise has done a better job of developing quarterbacks than Green Bay, and that’s where Wolf learned his trade. I trust his instincts on how to develop a young QB more than anyone else with ties to the Patriots, and I sure as hell don’t trust the knee jerk reactions of fans who are so spoiled by winning that anything less than winning a Lombardi makes them cry. I’m perfectly fine with Maye sitting all season if that’s what Wolf thinks is best for his development. Having a franchise QB usually means years of success, and I’m fine waiting for that success, especially when the other model clearly doesn’t work.
Their Plan Sucks he's listed as the #2 QB when Brissett goes down which is inevitable what will they do?? You agree with the "Sit Him for a Year Plan" to sit him for a year where's the Vet QB to take over when Brissett goes down?? Obviously Playing him now in this scenario goes against everything you believe you can't have it both ways. When Brissett goes down what are you going to say?? Maye earned the right to play I would hate to put words in your mouth.

You’re right, I wouldn’t play him, and they should sign a veteran QB to take the beating if Brissett goes down. I don’t believe in the Jets QB Development model, I think it’s stupid to play a young QB before they are ready, or behind a terrible OL, I think it’s the best way to ruin them. And I don’t give one **** if fans have a temper tantrum when the Patriots don’t play him now. If they play him I will root for him to succeed, and if they don’t I’m completely fine with that as well.
 
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