Patriots Player Departure OFFICIAL 2024 Patriots Roster Cutdown Day Discussion

[Urgent]

Will we claim Farley and release dial ?

Would the roster be any worse?

 

[Sicilian]

Reagor - 2 receptions for 10 yards on 4 targets & 15 snaps, 2 KR for 53 yards (26.5YPR), 2 PR for 13 yard (6.5YPR) w 2/FC

Wallis - 2 receptions for 16 yards on 6 targets & 38 snaps , 7 KR for 202 yards (28.6YPR), 4 PR for 47 yards (11.75 YPR) w/4 FC

Not that this really means anything for Reagor either, but I wouldn't really count any stats on kick returns in this preseason for anything. Teams are getting used to the new kickoff rule, and I'll bet none of them showed any of the stuff they're cooking up in the labs. I doubt much of what we saw will translate once the regular season hits.

 

[captain stone]

**** you too DB you ****ing DB.

 

[Zuma]

Farley is a good way to stop me dead in my tracks. Might have to go watch Dirty Work and wait for some waiver claim news that probably won't come until tomorrow if at all.

Unfortunately some of these guys cut today will be living in a…

 

[Sfpat]

Not in game he's dealing with blood clots

Thanks. Momentary brain drain

Typing "Barmore" in a Google search box is less taxing than your plea for others to solve your mysteries

Thanks for the suggestion. Never thought of this

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Pats have the fewest number of RBs on the roster that I can remember at 3..


Boutte is likely to get cut tomorrow so they can add somewhere else. Reagor is extraneous and shouldn't have been kept over Wallis.. But I guess the stats don't tell everything



Probably be cut tomorrow with Boutte after the Pats put in a claim one a more experienced TE.


With the issues at LT, Anderson going back on Season-ending IR, and the lack of depth I would expect another OL or two.. Wouldn't be surprised to see Jordan or Leverett cut..


I'd be very surprised to see Hill cut considering the lack of depth at DT.


Pats have 11 DBs.. You're say Dial is 7 says you're counting Bolden as a CB and not as a Safety.. He goes between both spots. 11 DBs is about typical.. I'd be surprised if they cut Dial unless they found someone who they think is better than Austin or Jon Jones for the outside spot.

On Hill, I agree we need DT depth. I meant cut him to accommodate a waiver claim for a better option at that spot. DT (Hill), TE (Bell), RB (Hasty) are spots where I don't think we kept any extra players, but the guys I named could be cut to make room for a waiver claim to replace them. But then yeah, there are other spots (mainly WR) I could see us cutting someone else to make room for an extra person at those spots, so not needing to cut the incumbent.

Fair point on Dial and looking at S cumulatively. I think your numbers left off Schooler though. So I have us at 12 players at DB, but could count Schooler as a "specialist" too. It all has to come out of the same 53 man roster though, so spots are somewhat intertwined. Ultimately, I just think Dial might be among the last guys on the roster and if they want to add someone at another spot someone has to go from a different spot.

We have a lot of OL injuries and still trying to find what works... I could easily see us going up to 10 OL from the 9 we kept. TE is a big part of this offense and with Henry's injury history, we could maybe end up with 4 if we claim someone and don't waive Bell. You mentioned how light we are at RB. We have 14 front 7 players and could, IMO, fit another. With 7 WRs that seems the likely spot to thin out from the initial roster but CB/DB seems like second on the list otherwise if we need to re-allocate roster spots like that.

 

[goheels22002]

I don’t think we have enough receivers we need more

Take a few minutes to look at that defense. Wow. Speed and thumpers at every level. Edge rushers and Linebackers are all interchangeable. The secondary is loaded with talent at both corners and safeties. Barmore coming back could be huge. I hope he's alright. The defense can certainly keep this team in games.

If the offensive line can just give the skill players that extra couple of seconds to do their thing, this team with Drake Maye can put up enough points to make this an interesting season. I've posted elsewhere about how critical it is to grab one or two veteran OTs off the cutdown and waiver lists to strengthen the pass blocking.

While the quality is not pro-bowl level, an experienced NFL OT who is healthy has to be better than what we saw against the Commanders. There are a number of OTs looking for work this afternoon.

If Spotrac is correct on team cap space, the New England Patriots have over $39 million available to spend and are second in the NFL. They should go after any OT they can who can do the job and spend whatever it takes.

 

[DaBruinz]

On Hill, I agree we need DT depth. I meant cut him to accommodate a waiver claim for a better option at that spot. DT (Hill), TE (Bell), RB (Hasty) are spots where I don't think we kept any extra players, but the guys I named could be cut to make room for a waiver claim to replace them. But then yeah, there are other spots (mainly WR) I could see us cutting someone else to make room for an extra person at those spots, so not needing to cut the incumbent.

Fair point on Dial and looking at S cumulatively. I think your numbers left off Schooler though. So I have us at 12 players at DB, but could count Schooler as a "specialist" too. It all has to come out of the same 53 man roster though, so spots are somewhat intertwined. Ultimately, I just think Dial might be among the last guys on the roster and if they want to add someone at another spot someone has to go from a different spot.

We have a lot of OL injuries and still trying to find what works... I could easily see us going up to 10 OL from the 9 we kept. TE is a big part of this offense and with Henry's injury history, we could maybe end up with 4 if we claim someone and don't waive Bell. You mentioned how light we are at RB. We have 14 front 7 players and could, IMO, fit another. With 7 WRs that seems the likely spot to thin out from the initial roster but CB/DB seems like second on the list otherwise if we need to re-allocate roster spots like that.

I have Schooler as a ST Ace on my roster page. But yeah.. He's there also.

 

[mgteich]

Especially with the top guy in the pecking order, Bourne, also coming back after a few weeks. That makes 8.

c'mon

Look at all the running teams. There are lots of receptions for 8 receivers, especially when they have a receiving TE and 2 receiving RB's. and Stevenson makes 12. You can't have enough receivers. Check the receiving stats. Just see how many receptions there are beyond the top 7.

 

[Urgent]

Quick reaction. And the roster is not finished.
But with all the draft capital and cap space, this roster doesn't look appreciably better.
Comparing the roster right now to opening day. Some "gains" came late last season, but were not on the opening day squad.

QB
Gained Maye & Brissett
Lost Jones & Zappe
Maye is better today than Mac Jones ever was, but we knew he was as high potential as anyone in the draft but one of the less pro-ready QB's. Probably won the job over Brissett, but not as decisively as many of the other first round QB's. Way better long-term, but there will be rookie mistakes or vet underperformance. The Pats are paying their QB room $15M. They have $23M on IR before the season starts. They are paying their guards more.

RB
Gained Gibson, Hasty
Lost Elliott, Harris
Gibson is a better receiving back than either of those two, but Elliott & Harris were solid in Stevenson's absence. A wash?

WR
Gained Osbourne, Polk, Baker, Reagor
Lost Parker, Smith-Schuster, Bourne on PUP
More hope for the future, but ready today? Slight gain from a very weak base. Who even are the top three?
We've got seven middle relievers, no starters, no closers.

TE
Gained Hooper, Bell
Lost Gesicki, Brown
We'll see. Not a lot to get excited about.

OL
Oof.
Gained Okorafor, Wallace, Robinson, Leverett, Jordan
Lost Brown, Mafi, Anderson to IR, Strange to PUP, (and McDermott who was on IR-to-return in 23)
The ratings sites had the Pats as the worst OL in football. Okorafor has looked lost trying LT. Wallace has struggled.
The Patriots have no players with consistent experience starting at LT in the NFL, and only former sixth-round pick Lowe even played in college.
We saw the preseason.

DL
Gained Hill, Pharms, Ximines.
Lost Barmore to NFI, Guy, Judon, Roberts (Flowers started on PUP 23)
Massive downgrade.

LB
Gained Elliss
Lost Wilson
eh. Didn't see a lot of "we got Elliss" threads.

DB
Gained Austin, Wilson, Dial, Hawkins, Bolden (IR 23), Pettus
Lost Jack Jones/JC Jackson, Bryant, Mills, Phillips, Speed
Maybe a slight upgrade? Little bit?

ST
Gained Joey Slye
Lost Matthew Slater, Chad Ryland, Chris Board, Cody Davis (started PUP 23)
You lost me at "lost Slater." Massive downgrade.

So
Huge optimism around the future of Maye.
Polk, Baker, Wallace, and Robinson could all develop.
But down Barmore, Judon, Guy, Slater, (and Bourne.)
Who's excited for the '25 draft!!

 

[DaBruinz]

Supposedly WATTS was placed on Short-Term IR acording to NFL.Com.. I'll reach out to Mike Reiss for confirmation.

 

[stcjones]

No kidding… I would’ve cut Reagor & BoneyT; they almost certainly would’ve cleared waivers and become eligible for the PS, but if they didn’t? No big loss in either case.

Besides those two, I also would’ve ****-canned Leverett Saltonstall, Little Jerry Pharma, Eukalele the ‘Roid Cheat, whichever Elliss the LB we have, and ESPECIALLY Bolden & the ****ing HORRIBLE Dell Pettus… Thise last two in particular are Straight Trash, homies.

What a sad ****ing Joke of an organization this has become PB (post Brady).

Agree on Thornton and Reagor….Boutte showed a lot more this preseason and we all know Thornton will either get injured or disappear again like every year he has been here. The other thing I hear everybody talking about is how he’s the only one with the speed to stretch the field… The problem is our offensive line gives our quarterback 1 millisecond to get rid of the ball before they get hit or sacked.

 

[DaBruinz]

Quick reaction. And the roster is not finished.
But with all the draft capital and cap space, this roster doesn't look appreciably better.
Comparing the roster right now to opening day. Some "gains" came late last season, but were not on the opening day squad.



DL
Gained Hill, Pharms, Ximines.
Lost Barmore to NFI, Guy, Judon, Roberts (Flowers started on PUP 23)
Massive downgrade.

Judon was basically a non-factor last year.
Flowers did nothing last year.
Roberts was nothing.
Guy is probably the most important loss. Pharms, Hill and White will have to step up.

We don't know what Ximenes will do, but he supposed had the 3rd best speed off the edge this preseason.

It's a downgrade, but remember that Pharms and White stepped up last year as well. So did Jennings..

LB
Gained Elliss
Lost Wilson
eh. Didn't see a lot of "we got Elliss" threads.

Elliss was on the team last year. They got McMillan back. They'd have TakiTaki as well, but he's starting on PUP.
Hopefully McMillan can stay healthy, but we'll see.

DB
Gained Austin, Wilson, Dial, Hawkins, Bolden (IR 23), Pettus
Lost Jack Jones/JC Jackson, Bryant, Mills, Phillips, Speed
Maybe a slight upgrade? Little bit?

You're forgetting that they lost Gonzalez for the 13 games, so having him for a full season should be an Upgrade.
You're also forgetting that they were without Marcus Jones for most of the season. His being back should be an upgrade on the defense as well.

Jack Jones only played 5 games for the Pats. So he won't be missed.

ST
Gained Joey Slye
Lost Matthew Slater, Chad Ryland, Chris Board, Cody Davis (started PUP 23)
You lost me at "lost Slater." Massive downgrade.

Losing Slater and Davis is big. Whomever is lining up at the other Gunner position opposite Schooler will have their work cut out for them.

I don't remember who lined up as the Personal Protector last year.

Agreed otherwise.

 

[Kdo5]

Wow so the Pats really carry 7 WRs? Lol

Very interested to see where the snaps go after Pop & Polk.

 

[Ian]

 

[Sicilian]

I can't remember exactly, but I THINK Ameer Speed (7th round) didn't make it, and Bolden was put on IR in camp. So close, a lot of guys did make it, but not the whole class.

 

[mgteich]

Judon was basically a non-factor last year.
Flowers did nothing last year.
Roberts was nothing.
Guy is probably the most important loss. Pharms, Hill and White will have to step up.

We don't know what Ximenes will do, but he supposed had the 3rd best speed off the edge this preseason.

It's a downgrade, but remember that Pharms and White stepped up last year as well. So did Jennings..




Elliss was on the team last year. They got McMillan back. They'd have TakiTaki as well, but he's starting on PUP.
Hopefully McMillan can stay healthy, but we'll see.

You're forgetting that they lost Gonzalez for the 13 games, so having him for a full season should be an Upgrade.
You're also forgetting that they were without Marcus Jones for most of the season. His being back should be an upgrade on the defense as well.

Jack Jones only played 5 games for the Pats. So he won't be missed.




Losing Slater and Davis is big. Whomever is lining up at the other Gunner position opposite Schooler will have their work cut out for them.

I don't remember who lined up as the Personal Protector last year.

Agreed otherwise.

Isn't Hasty the personal protector this year? or is it Elliss?

 

[Brotherblues]

I can't remember exactly, but I THINK Ameer Speed (7th round) didn't make it, and Bolden was put on IR in camp. So close, a lot of guys did make it, but not the whole class.

Perhaps the days of the Foxboro flu are behind us...

 

[signbabybrady]

Agree on Thornton and Reagor….Boutte showed a lot more this preseason and we all know Thornton will either get injured or disappear again like every year he has been here. The other thing I hear everybody talking about is how he’s the only one with the speed to stretch the field… The problem is our offensive line gives our quarterback 1 millisecond to get rid of the ball before they get hit or sacked.

The coaches disagree they all feel Thornton had a better spring and summer than Boutte.

Also Boutte was here last year and did less than Thornton.

 

[BennyBledsoe]

.....I'm not sure I'd want to be in the company of the 1997 draft class! What a hugely forgettable class. Well, I wish I could forget Canty, at least.