Upending TV Sports, ESPN, Fox, Warner Bros. Discovery Form Joint Streaming Service Edit: Judge Temporarily Blocks Sports Streaming Service Venu

[Grogan14]

The NFL is being sued this minute and they have expensive lawyers.

Hey, Attorneys have a monopoly too. Lets regulate that field as well and get these prices under control.

Who needs the best in the world? I want low prices.


Why shouldn't the NFL earn what the market will bear?

Snowflakes ruined the music industry because they were too cheap to pay for music.

Sounds good to me Comrade.

You want the best when going for heart surgery, not discounted inexperienced younsters. Right?

 

[Triumph]

You want the best when going for heart surgery, not discounted inexperienced younsters. Right?

The same as I want the best people associated with the Pats and I don't object to them being paid accordingly.

 

[Brotherblues]

As an international user:

The only thing I pay for is my gamepass subscription. It's like a 100 bucks and I got every game last season. Though I didn't try to watch the Peacock game, so I can't confirm or deny if that one was available.

If they start cutting games out of gamepass I don't know what my response will be, but it sure won't be "guess I'll just pay more now."

 

[Grogan14]

The same as I want the best people associated with the Pats and I don't object to them being paid accordingly.

Best heart surgeon in world makes 3-5 million per year

Best qb in world makes 50 million per year

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

NFL and Goodell are so greedy. Pretty soon you will have to have 10 different streaming services to watch football.

Make it hard for me to watch and I just wont watch. They should be concerned about the younger tik tok generation who just watched nonsensical videos

 

[Triumph]

Best heart surgeon in world makes 3-5 million per year

Best qb in world makes 50 million per year

The medical industry is bleeding this poor 91 year old man dry to the point of him pawning his jewelry to care for his wife.

Beautiful: TikTokker Raises More Than $400k for 90-Year-Old Air Force Veteran Forced to Pawn Jewelry to Care for Ailing Wife | The Gateway Pundit | by Margaret Flavin

When a 90-year-old Air Force Veteran named Donald entered U.S.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Ring 6]

Best heart surgeon in world makes 3-5 million per year

Best qb in world makes 50 million per year

The heart surgeon doesn’t have 60,000 people pay $100 to watch him work.

 

[XLIX]

Best heart surgeon in world makes 3-5 million per year

Best qb in world makes 50 million per year

If anything the players are underpaid relative to the amount of revenue they generate.

 

[jeremy2020]

Best heart surgeon in world makes 3-5 million per year

Best qb in world makes 50 million per year

Put a defense in there to get in his way and put it on TV.. I bet surgeons could get a pretty good TV deal.

 

[Thelonious]

If the NFL is going to go all-in on a predatory free market approach, then they should be deprived of their anti-trust exception.

 

[Thelonious]

If anything the players are underpaid relative to the amount of revenue they generate.

Their obscene salaries not so much reflect the value of what they do as the depravity of contemporary values.

 

[XLIX]

Their obscene salaries not so much reflect the value of what they do as the depravity of contemporary values.

What a strange thing to say on..... you know..... on a football forum....

You're obviously a fan of the sport so you are a willing participant in what you yourself call "the depravity of contemporary values"....

 

[Thelonious]

What a strange thing to say on..... you know..... on a football forum....

You're obviously a fan of the sport so you are a willing participant in what you yourself call "the depravity of contemporary values"....

To the extent compensation reflects moral priority (It does so only in part, of course, non-normative factors in the mechanism of markets play a role, certainly), a pattern of compensation which values the ability to run a around with a ball or to drag your fellow man to the ground or to bounce or kick a ball or to skate after a rubber disk over other far more important and honorable undertakings is worrisome. We want our bread and circus, arguably we need such relief from our burdens, but when we express with our dollars that we value these above more worthwhile accomplishments, there is every reason for concern. In comparison with any number of other sorts of human endeavor, sports is trivial, and those who do not realize that are simply decadent and irresponsible. When I was a kid, I used to go to the local dirt track for the demolition derby, but even as a kid I realized it was a trivial diversion. I feel the same about football. I am not ashamed to enjoy it, but I would be ashamed to fail to recognize its comparative insignificance, and as a society we ought to be ashamed of priorities which place a value on it which is unwarranted.

 

[XLIX]

To the extent compensation reflects moral priority (It does so only in part, of course, non-normative factors in the mechanism of markets play a role, certainly), a pattern of compensation which values the ability to run a around with a ball or to drag your fellow man to the ground or to bounce or kick a ball or to skate after a rubber disk over other far more important and honorable undertakings is worrisome. We want our bread and circus, arguably we need such relief from our burdens, but when we express with our dollars that we value these above more worthwhile accomplishments, there is every reason for concern. In comparison with any number of other sorts of human endeavor, sports is trivial, and those who do not realize that are simply decadent and irresponsible. When I was a kid, I used to go to the local dirt track for the demolition derby, but even as a kid I realized it was a trivial diversion. I feel the same about football. I am not ashamed to enjoy it, but I would be ashamed to fail to recognize its comparative insignificance, and as a society we ought to be ashamed of priorities which place a value on it which is unwarranted.

You can dress it up all you want but as a football fan, you are part of the "depravity of contemporary values" you decry.

 

[Thelonious]

You can dress it up all you want but as a football fan, you are part of the "depravity of contemporary values" you decry.

Say my neighbor's house were to catch fire, and I were to stand on my lawn and watch his house burn, there being nothing I could do either to stop the fire or to mitigate its damage. Would I be responsible for the fire? Would I be "part of it," whatever that expression may mean? Perhaps I should be embarrassed so to gawk. Perhaps I should be embarrassed to watch football. (My wife rolls here eyes when I watch "that crap," and maybe a quarter of my acquaintances would be surprised to discover that I care about such knuckledragger stuff.) I will concede to a modest, I think forgivable, degree of hypocrisy, but I feel no need to deny that football is what it is: lowbrow entertainment which serves as a diversion from other matters in life, most of which are far more important. I would simply like to see patterns of compensation conform with this fact.

I have a very strong view of the role of athletics in society which serve as context for my view - I debated it once in front of an audience - but it would make for the longest post in PatsFans history if I were to launch into it, so I won't. Suffice it to say there are rasons why enjoying and supporting football and sports more generally to the extent I do certainly ought to be, and is, a guilty pleasure.

 

[XLIX]

Say my neighbor's house were to catch fire, and I were to stand on my lawn and watch his house burn, there being nothing I could do either to stop the fire or to mitigate its damage. Would I be responsible for the fire? Would I be "part of it," whatever that expression may mean?

WTF does that have to do with anything? Atrocious analogy.

You complain about (your words here) the "depravity of contemporary values" - and yet you are a fan of the very sport you decry.

I have a very strong view of the role of athletics in society which serve as context for my view - I debated it once in front of an audience - but it would make for the longest post in PatsFans history if I were to launch into it, so I won't. Suffice it to say there are rasons why enjoying and supporting football and sports more generally to the extent I do certainly ought to be, and is, a guilty pleasure.

And there we have it.... when society supports a sport, it is the "depravity of contemporary values". But when YOU do it, oh well then it is just a "guilty pleasure".

 

[Thelonious]

WTF does that have to do with anything? Atrocious analogy.

You complain about (your words here) the "depravity of contemporary values" - and yet you are a fan of the very sport you decry.

And there we have it.... when society supports a sport, it is the "depravity of contemporary values". But when YOU do it, oh well then it is just a "guilty pleasure".

Well, condolences on your struggles with my analogy. I'll try to come up with something more simplistic for you next time.

As for the "guilty pleasure" angle, yes, I do indeed think we are a decadent nation which pays far too much attention to its trivial amusements and overcompensates those who provide them, and far too little to substantive concerns and pursuits. All aspects of our culture are affected in the general decline, including, very obviously, athletics. As a nation, we grow increasingly vulgar and stupid by the week. I think that obvious. This has resulted among other things in a loss of whatever beneficial effects athletic may once have had for its participants and for society as whole. I do not even mention increasing evidence that participation in many of our traditional sports, football certainly included, can exact a terrible price in physical health among those who participate, and there are no empirically confirmable benefits to participation vis-a-vis lifetime habits of exercise. Even as our obession with athletics burdgeons, we are increasingly an nation grown fat and lazy, particularly among our youth, raising serious questions whether such athletics any longer have a legitimate place in our educational establishment, even without considering the illl-effects on young people's moral development and priorities, ill-effects which ought to be clear to any reasonable observer and for which there is significant empirical evidence. All of this does indeed make my interest in the amusing spectacle of pro sports a guilty pleasure. I strongly suspect there will come a day - I sometimes think quite soon - when that sense of guilt and hypocrisy will make that enjoyment no longer possible. Certainly that has long since happened for me with respect to the NBA and more recently with respect to the Olympics. Already, i find that far too many players in the NFL are the sort of person I simply cannot root for. I will comfort myself in the meantime with the thought that though the present state cultural ill-health in the nation is reflected in our athletics, the decline in the ethos attending athletics is a symptom of the disease and not the disease itself. I suspect this may be an instance of self-deception which will prove unsustainable.

So yes, my interest in th NFL, is indeed a guilty pleasure,a trivial diversion. It should be for all of us, and we certainly ought to disabuse ourselves of the delusion that athetics in today's society is deserving of any more exalted status than that.

 

[XLIX]

Well, condolences on your struggles with my analogy. I'll try to come up with something more simplistic for you next time.

I didn’t struggle with it one bit; it was simply something any intelligent person could see as a moronic analogy having nothing to do with the topic at hand.

The rest of your post - which I mercifully deleted so people wouldn’t have to suffer through it again - is just more of your same blather about how when other people watch/enjoy football, it is the downfall of a decadent society….. but when you do it, well then that’s just guilty pleasure.

 

[Clonamery]

I didn’t struggle with it one bit; it was simply something any intelligent person could see as a moronic analogy having nothing to do with the topic at hand.

The rest of your post - which I mercifully deleted so people wouldn’t have to suffer through it again - is just more of your same blather about how when other people watch/enjoy football, it is the downfall of a decadent society….. but when you do it, well then that’s just guilty pleasure.

You have an issue with stream of pompousness?

 

[Thelonious]

I didn’t struggle with it one bit; it was simply something any intelligent person could see as a moronic analogy having nothing to do with the topic at hand.

The rest of your post - which I mercifully deleted so people wouldn’t have to suffer through it again - is just more of your same blather about how when other people watch/enjoy football, it is the downfall of a decadent society….. but when you do it, well then that’s just guilty pleasure.

Perhaps one day you will develop an ability to discuss matters of importance. I have said it is a guilty pleasure. You "accuse" me of saying it is a guilty pleasure. So we agree, which is the only thing that gives me pause in my view. I generally find myself in disagreement with fools.