PostGame Thread POST GAME THREAD: Week 3 - Patriots Beat the Jets 15-10

[Triumph]

Sure, but the angry fans are ALWAYS saying a win is a win, except when the Pats win. It goes both ways, I guess.

Historic win and exciting game.

 

[Bruins29]

Sure, but the angry fans are ALWAYS saying a win is a win, except when the Pats win. It goes both ways, I guess.

I am 13 years in here. And I am sure posters noticed I have always been one of the most positive people here. And I have a rep for targeting posters who have tried to make this place miserable

So when I call out some glaring problems maybe they are really there

 

[Ross12]

Only Miami remains unbeaten in the Conference. Patriots far from out of the mix if they can surprise everyone and get a win next week in Dallas.

I don't think they really need to beat Dallas, going 1-3 is probably fine (although Arizona of all teams is up 9-0 on Dallas right now...) They stay alive. The schedule is softer after that - not easy, but at least not crazy defenses week after week.

If you assume the Chiefs, Raiders and Bengals win today, here's your AFC slate next week:
Dolphins (3-0) at Bills (2-1)
Chiefs (2-1) at Jets (1-2)
Ravens (2-1) at Browns (2-1)
Bengals (1-2) at Titans (1-2)
Falcons at Jaguars (1-2)
Broncos (0-3) at Bears
Rams at Colts (2-1)
Steelers (1-2) at Texans (1-2)
Raiders (2-1) at Chargers (1-2)

I'd pick the Dolphins, Chiefs, Ravens, Bengals, Falcons, Broncos, Colts, Texans, and Chargers. So that means you'd have one 4-0 team and three 3-1 teams, which would represent the four division leaders. Then you'd have six 2-2 teams and five 1-3 teams. So while you'd be "at the bottom", you'd also only be 1 game behind every wild card team.

 

[DaBruinz]

Bourne needs to be made the number 1. Period. Yet again, he didn't see enough snaps.

Pats need to go Bourne, Douglas, Henry, Gesicki with one of the RBs on the field.

I was surprised that Montgomery didn't see any offensive snaps.

 

[jdlboot14]

That wasn't a "fluke play". That was a designed play.

Your hyperbole on JJSS is ridiculous.

I know it's designed! But it's still a fluke play - meaning, you can't count on the busted coverage. It doesn't work 49/50 times. That is what fluke means. And, if you allow yourself to see objectively, instead of sinking with the "BB is god" shtick, you'll admit that JuJu was a horrible signing. He's FAR WORSE than Meyers. Which I've said since March. There's a reason KC let him go. Boutte got open and had more targets in his first game than JuJu did today when the team desperately needed ANYTHING.

 

[AQPE]

1. Happy they won, I don’t care about style points.

2. This defense, if they stay healthy (and get healthier at CB) will keep them in games all year.

3. The OL is a work in progress, they have a lot to do to improve but if they can get their best lineup on the field for a couple more weeks I am confident they will be better, and have a lot better depth than they had for the past couple seasons. Right tackle will be the weakest link for the foreseeable future.

4. Stevenson is nothing close to what he was last year. Absent any report that he is injured, I’m assuming his issue is between the ears. He needs a coaching intervention pronto.

5. With the number of WRs they have on the roster, plus Gesicki and Montgomery, they can’t afford another week of Smith-Shuster playing like he has. Feels like every veteran WR they bring in underperforms.

6. I do not remember a game in which I felt the officiating was as egregious as this one. IMHO, however, if the Pats didn’t win it wouldn’t have been due to calls that went against them.

7. If Joe Benigno was still on WFAN in the morning I would seriously have considered taking tomorrow morning off to listen, what a debacle!

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Let’s be honest: Breer’s report about JJSS and the follow up Herald report are probably true. Even when he was healthy he was a #2. This report was he continues to struggle with a knee injury and that the team regrets the contract because they don’t view him as any better than their other WRs.

 

[DaBruinz]

I am 13 years in here. And I am sure posters noticed I have always been one of the most positive people here. And I have a rep for targeting posters who have tried to make this place miserable

So when I call out some glaring problems maybe they are really there

When @Ian is complaining about the lack of calls (DPI, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, etc) People should pay attention. @Ian never complains about the Refs unless it's so blatant that a blind man can see it...

 

[yukon cornelius]

I don't think they really need to beat Dallas, going 1-3 is probably fine (although Arizona of all teams is up 9-0 on Dallas right now...) They stay alive. The schedule is softer after that - not easy, but at least not crazy defenses week after week.

If you assume the Chiefs, Raiders and Bengals win today, here's your AFC slate next week:
Dolphins (3-0) at Bills (2-1)
Chiefs (2-1) at Jets (1-2)
Ravens (2-1) at Browns (2-1)
Bengals (1-2) at Titans (1-2)
Falcons at Jaguars (1-2)
Broncos (0-3) at Bears
Rams at Colts (2-1)
Steelers (1-2) at Texans (1-2)
Raiders (2-1) at Chargers (1-2)

I'd pick the Dolphins, Chiefs, Ravens, Bengals, Falcons, Broncos, Colts, Texans, and Chargers. So that means you'd have one 4-0 team and three 3-1 teams, which would represent the four division leaders. Then you'd have six 2-2 teams and five 1-3 teams. So while you'd be "at the bottom", you'd also only be 1 game behind every wild card team.

Patriots are 3-3 worst case scenario headed into the Bills game

 

[jdlboot14]

Can't say enough about Gonzo. We'll certainly see him on Lamb next week.
Bryant did pretty well today too. Peppers has been a nice boost.
If Godchaux or Ekuale are out for any length of time, it'll give White more time to work.
D looked good - but again, it barely counts against the Jets who have just collapsed without Rogers.

 

[Since1960]

Do you think the Jets would trade Quinnen Williams straight up for Bailey Zappe?! Ok, ok, we’ll take Zach Wilson too!!

 

[DaBruinz]

I know it's designed! But it's still a fluke play - meaning, you can't count on the busted coverage. It doesn't work 49/50 times. That is what fluke means. And, if you allow yourself to see objectively, instead of sinking with the "BB is god" shtick, you'll admit that JuJu was a horrible signing. He's FAR WORSE than Meyers. Which I've said since March. There's a reason KC let him go. Boutte got open and had more targets in his first game than JuJu did today when the team desperately needed ANYTHING.

So, because the play is designed to confuse the defense so they don't cover someone, it's a FLUKE? You really don't understand this. You claiming I'm not seeing things objectively is laughable. Take your BS insults and GFY.

 

[Jlaff]

Let’s be honest: Breer’s report about JJSS and the follow up Herald report are probably true. Even when he was healthy he was a #2. This report was he continues to struggle with a knee injury and that the team regrets the contract because they don’t view him as any better than their other WRs.

Whereas JuJu is all "no my knee is 100%, this is just how good I am."

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Umm... When the Pats are kicking from inside their 10, where are you expecting the Jets to start from? Their 20?

Yes, the high snaps hurt. But your claims that the entire ST was shameful is ridiculous.

And why were they kicking inside the 10? Because of an awful tradeoff on the safety punt. Did not say the st were shameful overall, they were probably average today. It’s shameful for a team that devotes so much roster wise. Those moments with the game on the line we should have an advantage, not a disadvantage. Thats why bb stresses it when choosing his 53, we need to be better.

We are putting way too much on the defense with the offense being bad enough. When you get a safety you SHOULD NOT have to trot back out there with the other team near midfield. Inexcusable exchange there.

 

[DaBruinz]

Can't say enough about Gonzo. We'll certainly see him on Lamb next week.
Bryant did pretty well today too. Peppers has been a nice boost.
If Godchaux or Ekuale are out for any length of time, it'll give White more time to work.
D looked good - but again, it barely counts against the Jets who have just collapsed without Rogers.

Yep. So collapsed that they beat the Bills w/o him.. Fool/.

 

[yukon cornelius]

Prediction: gonna see a lot of screens next week vs this Dallas team

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Positives:
Gonzales
Judon
Brown
Peppers
Bryant
Zeke

Somewhat Positive:
Jones
The OL against a tough DL. Mafi seemed to play better than Strange
Kicker (tough conditions, bad snaps).


Somewhat Negative:
Parker (stopped running)
Stephenson (drops and seems to have lost some wiggle).

Negatives:
Long snapper
Smith-Schuster
Play-calling in second half
Officiating

 

[DaBruinz]

And why were they kicking inside the 10? Because of an awful tradeoff on the safety punt. Did not say the st were shameful overall, they were probably average today. It’s shameful for a team that devotes so much roster wise. Those moments with the game on the line we should have an advantage, not a disadvantage. Thats why bb stresses it when choosing his 53, we need to be better.

We are putting way too much on the defense with the offense being bad enough. When you get a safety you SHOULD NOT have to trot back out there with the other team near midfield. Inexcusable exchange there.

They were kicking inside the 10 because the OFFENSE didn't do S**T. Has nothing to do with the STs who fair caught it there because of an excellent kick and coverage.

 

[Guts]

I am 13 years in here. And I am sure posters noticed I have always been one of the most positive people here. And I have a rep for targeting posters who have tried to make this place miserable

So when I call out some glaring problems maybe they are really there

Yessir I can attest to that too lol

 

[Keyser Söze]

The passes on 3rd down were an embarrassment.