Thank God For Laurence Maroney

[National Sports Advisors]

I agree. Losing Morris I believe really hurt us. To me, he looked real strong.
Could we go RB in rd 1, and slide Maroney into the 3rd down/Faulk spot?
Will Faulk be back? a day 1 rb would result in a lot of bread tied up in the rb position. So m any questions.
Hopefully, Maroney will prove us wrong, but I'm concerned.

I hear ya. Even if Morris comes back, I still think we need to bring in a nice prospect. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd rd pick, unless we really get ballsy and use another #1 pick on a running back. Either way, LoMo is not the answer as the #1 guy on this team. I hope the Cowgirls fall in love with McFadden so that they can trade Barber and their #1 for our #2 pick overall from the 49ers. That would have me pumped!

 

[DaBruinz]

I thought Faulk did more with his opportunities running the ball.

The running plays called for Faulk were blocked better than most of the plays that Maroney ran.

Part of the issue with the Pats is that they run the ball too much when Maroney is on the field, so the defense EXPECTS it. Once they started doing play-action and burning them with Maroney catching the ball, it opened the field up for Faulk.

But, again, if we use FACTS with the haters, they ignore them or call them EXCUSES. Yeah. ITs a real friggin excuse that the Ravens are the best run defense in the league.

 

[Joker]

Today is a new day, B

123 yards all purpose means nothing today

last night was another story, but today...well...it's back under the NSA bus for LoMo

 

[Truck]

maroney is a freakin ****. he hugs the ass of whichever lineman is in front of him, and falls down when they do. hes afraid go around his blockers. freakin ****. watch the film, its terrible.

He's got some nice moves, but he's totally incapable of running thru people. A Maroney/Morris combination was good. You get two people with totally different skillsets.

The fact that there are people even supporting Maroney as a true #1/go-to-guy this season is laughable.
BB trusts Kevin Faulk & Heath Evens (& sometimes Brady) when its 3rd & less than 3 over Maroney. When its 3rd & greater than 3, he trusts Brady.

The only times when Maroney gets it is on first or second & long; in the hopes that he breaks out for the first down. He's simply not able to reliably get 3-4 yards. Its more like 0,2,1,0,10,2,0,1,25; so he's got a great average,and can break out when the D is playing pass coverage. If they're playing run; or 8-in-the-box; forgetaboutit.

If we get McFadden next year I'll be enthused...McFadden should be able to replace Maroney's finnesse, and Faulk's screen/receiving abilities; and do it better.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

The running plays called for Faulk were blocked better than most of the plays that Maroney ran.

Part of the issue with the Pats is that they run the ball too much when Maroney is on the field, so the defense EXPECTS it. Once they started doing play-action and burning them with Maroney catching the ball, it opened the field up for Faulk.

But, again, if we use FACTS with the haters, they ignore them or call them EXCUSES. Yeah. ITs a real friggin excuse that the Ravens are the best run defense in the league.

What are you talking about?????????? Watch the game. With under 2 minutes left when we had 1st down around the 25, Faulk was stuffed at the line but slipped out of the tackle and got us 7 yards. He turned a no gainer into a 7 yard run. That's what quality backs do. Watch the tape son. Anybody with the game TIVOed can watch exactly what I am talking about. When is the last time Maroney made something out of nothing like Faulk??? McGahee did it all night.

 

[JackBauer]

maroney is a freakin ****. he hugs the ass of whichever lineman is in front of him, and falls down when they do. hes afraid go around his blockers. freakin ****. watch the film, its terrible.

Wow, this is an utterly convincing post. Of course NSA would find it entertaining.

Seriously, there needs to be an age limit on this forum, or something.

 

[ShrewBeer]

What are you talking about?????????? Watch the game. With under 2 minutes left when we had 1st down around the 25, Faulk was stuffed at the line but slipped out of the tackle and got us 7 yards. He turned a no gainer into a 7 yard run. That's what quality backs do. Watch the tape son. Anybody with the game TIVOed can watch exactly what I am talking about. When is the last time Maroney made something out of nothing like Faulk??? McGahee did it all night.

and faulk is not a great back. he has his qualities, but when he can make a feature back look bad, things arent right

 

[National Sports Advisors]

He's got some nice moves, but he's totally incapable of running thru people. A Maroney/Morris combination was good. You get two people with totally different skillsets.

The fact that there are people even supporting Maroney as a true #1/go-to-guy this season is laughable.
BB trusts Kevin Faulk & Heath Evens (& sometimes Brady) when its 3rd & less than 3 over Maroney. When its 3rd & greater than 3, he trusts Brady.

The only times when Maroney gets it is on first or second & long; in the hopes that he breaks out for the first down. He's simply not able to reliably get 3-4 yards. Its more like 0,2,1,0,10,2,0,1,25; so he's got a great average,and can break out when the D is playing pass coverage. If they're playing run; or 8-in-the-box; forgetaboutit.

If we get McFadden next year I'll be enthused...McFadden should be able to replace Maroney's finnesse, and Faulk's screen/receiving abilities; and do it better.

Good points. Maroney just runs right up the arses of our o-line. If there's a hole he goes thru it(who can't?). However, when there is no hole he has no ability to make something out of nothing. Watch McGahee run. The hole is plugged and he keeps his feet moving and busts loose. Maroney has no power and no ability to make something out of nothing. Not good.

 

[stcjones]

I am neither a Maroney basher or apologist. Realistically , I think there was some stuff to build on tonight, nothing more.

He showed improvement ( not excellence, like someone said) in one of the most important jobs for the RB in this offense, pass blocking and blitz pick up. He's not at Faulks level yet, nor Sammi Morris's .

He was good catching the ball, not excellent. Honestly, my grandmother could have taken that second swing pass for 40+ yards with no defenders within 20 yards and Welker blocking. Elite RB's take that to the house.

Faulk still brings more to the running game in between the tackles.

But it is something to build on. I'll be rooting hard for Maroney against Pittsburgh

great post...dead on!

 

[National Sports Advisors]

and faulk is not a great back. he has his qualities, but when he can make a feature back look bad, things arent right

Exactly. I mean, for cris sakes, we NEVER see 8 men in the box and LoMo has trouble making something happen. Puhleaze.

 

[DaBruinz]

What are you talking about?????????? Watch the game. With under 2 minutes left when we had 1st down around the 25, Faulk was stuffed at the line but slipped out of the tackle and got us 7 yards. He turned a no gainer into a 7 yard run. That's what quality backs do. Watch the tape son. Anybody with the game TIVOed can watch exactly what I am talking about. When is the last time Maroney made something out of nothing like Faulk??? McGahee did it all night.

BLAH BLAH BLAH.. MARONEY SUCKS.. BLAH BLAH BLAH..

You are so full of SH!T its pathetic. But that is typical of you...

BTW, a friggin 15 year old imbecile shouldn't be calling me son. I'm not your son you arrogant SOB and, if I was, I'd take you to court and have you thrown in a friggin insane asylum because of how stupid you are.

OH, btw, Maroney's 8 yard run last night. He got stopped, bounced out and got 8. But, don't let the facts disrupt you from your pathetic rants.

 

[JackBauer]

Exactly. I mean, for cris sakes, we NEVER see 8 men in the box and LoMo has trouble making something happen. Puhleaze.

In the same vein, we almost never pass when LoMo is in the backfield. So it seems pretty predictable to me that we're basically telegraphing the playcall before the snap.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

In the same vein, we almost never pass when LoMo is in the backfield. So it seems pretty predictable to me that we're basically telegraphing the playcall before the snap.

Not last night. We passed plenty of times last night with him in the backfield. Yet he still could not make it happen running the ball. The kid stinks. I'm sorry.

 

[ShrewBeer]

Wow, this is an utterly convincing post. Of course NSA would find it entertaining.

Seriously, there needs to be an age limit on this forum, or something.

i'm 49.
its ok if maroney suks man. its not the end of the world. you dont have to defend him blindly to the death.

 

[danny88]

BLAH BLAH BLAH.. MARONEY SUCKS.. BLAH BLAH BLAH..

You are so full of SH!T its pathetic. But that is typical of you...

BTW, a friggin 15 year old imbecile shouldn't be calling me son. I'm not your son you arrogant SOB and, if I was, I'd take you to court and have you thrown in a friggin insane asylum because of how stupid you are.

OH, btw, Maroney's 8 yard run last night. He got stopped, bounced out and got 8. But, don't let the facts disrupt you from your pathetic rants.

People should call you son with that way you act. NSA makes an argument about maroney and you start insulting him. You talk all this big game, then when someone comes at you with a different point of view you result to name calling. Where does nsa call you names in the post? What a sad sad person. Same thing goes on in every sandbox in America.

I hope you are not a grown man I can only imagine what happens if a person cuts you off , or does not agree with you at work!

Ok son!?

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Carolina Tony, actually I was talking to NSA, who I believed specified calling Dillon. Don't know if they'd have any league rules to cope with if they did so. They would have done it by now, and kept it quiet, ya gotta figure. As I understand it, we're getting hit for dead money for Dillon, which means we just pay the man and the cap hit never really even happens... it's almost a freebie except, oh yeah, um, he might be sort of done by now. As I said, can't hurt to have him on the line, especially if he's cap-free.

But I don't really see much in terms of recognition of the levels of uncertainty we still have with the kid. We do have a bunch of self-congratulatory types considering Maroney done, based on a few bad games.

I contend, and most agree, that he hasn't been a home run, but he's not a strikeout either. A single, thus far. Now the "Advisor" says maybe draft in the 3rd round, evidently less willing to back Run DMc as a panacea. Now we're going to hang the future on a lower pick, evidently tried out until someone pans out.

The basics of this argument seem to be:

- There are a few guys around this league who are super awesome
- There are a lot of guys who are good enough to start but not super awesome
- Since some teams have super awesome running backs, and we do not, we have to get one (not a bad idea, if you can do it,)... and here's the flawed part...
- We have to immediately derail all plans and reweight all evaluations in order to secure a super awesome running back, the lack of which we just recently discussed.

Since it's been established that turning up a super-awesome running back in the draft is no simple matter, it is now suggested that Dallas will obligingly trade us Marion Barber plus their first round pick, for our SF pick. So now it's trades for somebody else's prospect, because ours isn't good enough.

Well, I love Barber, I really do. But I'm not done with LoMo yet, and I'm certainly not about to flip-flop based on some impatient fan on a bulletin board, especially not to the tune of our #1 (#2 overall) pick in the next draft. In Bill we Trust, of course; however they handle it is fine by me. They seem to have had a fairly decent track record in draft/FA over the years.

But nahhhhh I don't think we need to target RB right now.

PFnV

 

[DaBruinz]

Exactly. I mean, for cris sakes, we NEVER see 8 men in the box and LoMo has trouble making something happen. Puhleaze.

What about when we see 7 in the box and the O-line gets pushed BACK the way they were getting manhandled last night? Hell, MANKINS, the Pats BEST O-lineman, was getting schooled by Ngata quite a bit. Particularly in the run blocking. How about you actually WATCH the game and tell me how many times the O-line ended up 0-2 yards BACK from the LOS and not moving FORWARD.

Hmm.. wow.. just went through the Game Plays. Care to take a guess at how many runs for negative yardage Maroney had last night? NONE. All 13 runs were for positive yardage. Yes, I am surprised. Oh.. something else. 8 of 13 runs were for 4 yards or MORE.

 

[JackBauer]

Not last night. We passed plenty of times last night with him in the backfield. Yet he still could not make it happen running the ball. The kid stinks. I'm sorry.

Oh really? Is that why the kid had a higher YPC against the Ravens than any back this year save Edge?

The fact that you're already giving up on a 22-year-old (!) RB in his second year (who has shown flashes of brilliance and on balance has been far steadier than his detractors give him credit for) reveals just how pathetic of a "fan" you really are.

I bet you were chomping on the bit last year to deride Sanders, too.

 

[JackBauer]

i'm 49.
its ok if maroney suks man. its not the end of the world. you dont have to defend him blindly to the death.

I don't know if that makes it any better.

I'm not defending him "blindly to the death." I'm defending him against these ridiculous and outlandish assaults from people such as yourself, danny88, and NSA.

It's almost as if there's a palpable DESIRE on your guy's part for this kid to fail. It's sad, really.

 

[ShrewBeer]

i dont believe maroney can be called a complete bum yet. i think its just because i had such high expectations as a spoiled kraft-era fan. we are not used to unknowns around here.