Tyquan Thornton Having a Tough Camp

[PatsFan2]

@PatsFan2 @captain stone beware!!!

I like good job.

 

[RIpats88]

Interesting. So that's good company. If he can put it together and keep it together mentally

 

[RIpats88]

The track record of drafting WRs is largely not drafting them or not drafting them early.
The result of that strategy is the winningest 23 year run in the history of the sport.
Perhaps rather than whining about WRs that would lead you to understand that drafting WRs isn’t as important as you think.
But that’s just me, I see success, I say whatever happened worked. You see success and you find the flaw that was overcome and act as if it was a horrendous curse.

So you think they won because they never drafted receivers?

Or did they win because they had Tom Brady? Maybe one of those is more important than the other in your analysis

All the teams around the league with top receivers would disagree.

In any discussion of receivers and patriots success without a "top one" needs to keep into account that gronk was basically a receiver. Just as Kelce is for KC

 

[RIpats88]

Back to discussion. Thorntons fate more has to do with Boutte imo.

I thought Thornton was a lock due to draft status and if one of Boutte/Douglas flamed out he would be on the team.

But Douglas has earned a starting role and Boutte is flashing while Thornton is on the bench. So I think it's worth noting what they do.

Id hate to see them release Boutte and him become something for another team. While Thornton gets injured again.

That burst he showed on the zappe TD to take a slant and outrun everyone was something.

 

[h0c2000]

Tyquan Thornton is indeed a rare breed of receiver. He's got the speed of a gazelle, the hands of a N'Keal Harry, and the fragility of Jalen Hurd.

 

[Love The Drake]

Tyquan starts the season on IR?

 

[BelizePats]

Tyquan isn't going anywhere, other than maybe to IR. I hope he's practicing this week.

 

[Ring 6]

So you think they won because they never drafted receivers?

Or did they win because they had Tom Brady? Maybe one of those is more important than the other in your analysis

All the teams around the league with top receivers would disagree.

In any discussion of receivers and patriots success without a "top one" needs to keep into account that gronk was basically a receiver. Just as Kelce is for KC

I am saying what they did was the most successful run in history.
Every team makes some good decisions and some bad. Every team is good at some things and bad at others. The draft is one small piece of building a team. The drafting of WRs is a small piece of that small piece.

All the teams with “top receivers” who never won a SB can’t say much to the teams without “top receivers” who win SBs, can they? Other than they were more exciting while not wining and, oh boy, the fantasy football points.

 

[BelizePats]

I am saying what they did was the most successful run in history.
Every team makes some good decisions and some bad. Every team is good at some things and bad at others. The draft is one small piece of building a team. The drafting of WRs is a small piece of that small piece.

All the teams with “top receivers” who never won a SB can’t say much to the teams without “top receivers” who win SBs, can they? Other than they were more exciting while not wining and, oh boy, the fantasy football points.

I hear you Andy but if you look at it objectively, we have been poor at drafting the position. I like old school football so ground and pound is fine by me. However, the league has changed and Goddell has made the rules where the offence is now favoured. The game has changed significantly in the last decade. It's true that we have not invested much in the position, in terms of draft capital, but that which we have, has not worked out. It is a clear weakness of the GM and of that there can be no doubt.

 

[palialka]

I’m pretty sure Thornton won’t get cut or traded this year because of where he was drafted…we’ll see if he gets IR’d. He’s got to show something this season though, otherwise he’ll be on the hot seat come next training camp.

 

[Kasmir]

So you think they won because they never drafted receivers?

Or did they win because they had Tom Brady? Maybe one of those is more important than the other in your analysis

All the teams around the league with top receivers would disagree.

In any discussion of receivers and patriots success without a "top one" needs to keep into account that gronk was basically a receiver. Just as Kelce is for KC

We signed the Super Bowl winning team's #1 WR so we are all set.

 

[raduray]

I’m pretty sure Thornton won’t get cut or traded this year because of where he was drafted…we’ll see if he gets IR’d. He’s got to show something this season though, otherwise he’ll be on the hot seat come next training camp

Where he was drafted should have nothing to do with it. That's a sunk cost and shouldn't factor in it.

 

[RIpats88]

We signed the Super Bowl winning team's #1 WR so we are all set.

We signed Travis Kelce?

 

[RIpats88]

Where he was drafted should have nothing to do with it. That's a sunk cost and shouldn't factor in it.

That's what I mean. Id Boutte is showing more who cares if he's a 6th rounder and Thornton is a 2nd.

Question is if they think they can stash Thornton on IR or if they think they can get Boutte to the practice squad

 

[203Pat]

Tyquan isn't going anywhere, other than maybe to IR. I hope he's practicing this week.

I think he is destined for a case of the Foxboro Flu.

 

[palialka]

Where he was drafted should have nothing to do with it. That's a sunk cost and shouldn't factor in it.

It factors in when he’s in his 2nd year. 2nd round picks don’t get cut in year 2 unless there’s extracurricular stuff involved.

 

[RIpats88]

I am saying what they did was the most successful run in history.
Every team makes some good decisions and some bad. Every team is good at some things and bad at others. The draft is one small piece of building a team. The drafting of WRs is a small piece of that small piece.

All the teams with “top receivers” who never won a SB can’t say much to the teams without “top receivers” who win SBs, can they? Other than they were more exciting while not wining and, oh boy, the fantasy football points.

Its a pure myth that we have won without "top receivers" and that they are just about exciting and fantasy football points.

Why do we always ignore that Brady had Rob gronkowski one of the greatest mismatches of all time? Not even counting Edelman who was able to get open at will.

When I say receivers I mean "receiving talent". I just think it's been a weak spot for bill. It's a reason we have had to overpay for vets.

Now maybe Douglas/Boutte change that. We will see

 

[Ring 6]

I hear you Andy but if you look at it objectively, we have been poor at drafting the position. I like old school football so ground and pound is fine by me. However, the league has changed and Goddell has made the rules where the offence is now favoured. The game has changed significantly in the last decade. It's true that we have not invested much in the position, in terms of draft capital, but that which we have, has not worked out. It is a clear weakness of the GM and of that there can be no doubt.

We have chosen, very successfully, to do it differently.
The end result is what matters.

 

[Ring 6]

Its a pure myth that we have won without "top receivers" and that they are just about exciting and fantasy football points.

Why do we always ignore that Brady had Rob gronkowski one of the greatest mismatches of all time? Not even counting Edelman who was able to get open at will.

When I say receivers I mean "receiving talent". I just think it's been a weak spot for bill. It's a reason we have had to overpay for vets.

Now maybe Douglas/Boutte change that. We will see

Every team has strengths and weaknesses. Whatever impact you want to think drafting WRs has had, the end result is the most success ever.

 

[Grogan14]

Again I will say that the comp for Thornton is Will Fuller, not a route runner like Smith.

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