DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION Official Patriots Draft Day 3 Thread - Rounds 4-7

[long distance]

Breeland, Warren, DJones, Duncan, etc., they felt that they already had better prospects in Stuber, Cajuste, McDermont, and Anderson.

same breed - all backups at best - unfortunately at least one will be a starter for NE this yr.

stacking on IOL mid rounds - MAYBE Onwenu gets moved to RT - but im not holding my breath

 

[VJCPatriot]

Patriots 7th round draftee Isaiah Bolden had a leap out of the gym pro day. 4.31 hand timed 40, 38" vertical, and 10'9 broad jump. An explosive athlete at 6'2 205 lbs. Very nice size. Can he play football? who knows, but he's definitely an athlete.

source:

Jackson State's Isaiah Bolden raises stock for NFL draft during pro day workout - Andscape

NFL scouts left last year’s pro day at Jackson State University buzzing about linebacker James Houston, whom the Detroit Lions ultimately selected in the sixth round of the 2022 draft. On Monday, Tigers football coach T.C. Taylor wondered who they would be talking about after this year’s...

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[StrawHatPatriot]

People say Kayshon has personality/character issues. But he's a 6th round pick so taking a flyer on him is fine

Overall, it looks like a really solid draft on paper

 

[BadMoFo]

 

[ctpatsfan77]

So they still have no real blocking TEs?

 

[rochrist]

Patriots 7th round draftee Isaiah Bolden had a leap out of the gym pro day. 4.31 hand timed 40, 38" vertical, and 10'9 broad jump. An explosive athlete at 6'2 205 lbs. Very nice size. Can he play football? who knows, but he's definitely an athlete.

source:

Jackson State's Isaiah Bolden raises stock for NFL draft during pro day workout - Andscape

NFL scouts left last year’s pro day at Jackson State University buzzing about linebacker James Houston, whom the Detroit Lions ultimately selected in the sixth round of the 2022 draft. On Monday, Tigers football coach T.C. Taylor wondered who they would be talking about after this year’s...

andscape.com

Coached by Deion Sanders.

 

[They_Hate_We]

ugh...Mel Kiper lovefest in progress. Time to check out from this draft.

 

[DaBruinz]

Interesting.. Isaiah Bolden..

 

[VJCPatriot]

People say Kayshon has personality/character issues. But he's a 6th round pick so taking a flyer on him is fine

Overall, it looks like a really solid draft on paper

I don't mind taking a flyer in the 6th at all. Honestly I'm more excited for Demario Douglas who just pops off the tape with the way he moves. That stop and start are just sick and remind me of Dion Lewis.

But think of it this way, the Patriots bought 2x lottery scratch tickets in the 6th round, if just one of them pans out, this will help our WR room going forward.

 

[stcjones]

Clearly his size is why he was a 6th round pick, but if they use him on quick slants and screen passes I like his ability after the catch.

Yes, but is durability is a major issue right now unless he can add a little bit of muscle to the frame

 

[n1997y]

Patriots 7th round draftee Isaiah Bolden had a leap out of the gym pro day. 4.31 hand timed 40, 38" vertical, and 10'9 broad jump. An explosive athlete at 6'2 205 lbs. Very nice size. Can he play football? who knows, but he's definitely an athlete.

source:

Jackson State's Isaiah Bolden raises stock for NFL draft during pro day workout - Andscape

NFL scouts left last year’s pro day at Jackson State University buzzing about linebacker James Houston, whom the Detroit Lions ultimately selected in the sixth round of the 2022 draft. On Monday, Tigers football coach T.C. Taylor wondered who they would be talking about after this year’s...

andscape.com

Nice puff piece.

this was particularly interesting:

He was an elite kick returner at Jackson State, leading the nation with an average of 36.9 yards in 2021 and returning two kickoffs for touchdowns. Then-coach Deion Sanders took him off kickoff returns last season because he wanted Bolden to focus on becoming a better cornerback.

 

[patfanken]

Isaiah Bolden had a leap out of the gym pro day. 4.31 hand timed 40, 38" vertical, and 10'9 broad jump. An explosive athlete at 6'2 205 lbs. Very nice size. Can he play football? who knows, but he's definitely an athlete.

source:

Jackson State's Isaiah Bolden raises stock for NFL draft during pro day workout - Andscape

NFL scouts left last year’s pro day at Jackson State University buzzing about linebacker James Houston, whom the Detroit Lions ultimately selected in the sixth round of the 2022 draft. On Monday, Tigers football coach T.C. Taylor wondered who they would be talking about after this year’s...

andscape.com

sounds like a perfect end of the 7th pick to me. Like the size and measurables. Clearly his production didn't match the measurables. But I'm a big believer that good football players get better as they play and sometimes it takes a few years (Wise, Uche, etc). this is probably a guy who will make a great PS player while he finds (or doesn't find) his place in the league.

 

[stcjones]

why did we draft ameer speed? the highlights posted on pats.com show him to be a poor tackler. what are we getting with him?

I agree and he was picked to go a lot later as well….head scratcher

 

[stcjones]

Cory Trice to the Steelers in the 7th! man they are killing it in the draft this year, aren't they?

Steelers and Philly have had awesome drafts…

 

[rochrist]

5'8 180 vs 6'3 180. Demarco Douglas, pound for pound is better built than Twiggy Thornton our 2nd round pick from last year. Douglas might be short but Twiggy is downright anorexic. Although if you said that Thornton should have gone in the 4th rather than the 2nd, you'd have no arguments from me.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Patriots 7th round draftee Isaiah Bolden had a leap out of the gym pro day. 4.31 hand timed 40, 38" vertical, and 10'9 broad jump. An explosive athlete at 6'2 205 lbs. Very nice size. Can he play football? who knows, but he's definitely an athlete.

source:

Jackson State's Isaiah Bolden raises stock for NFL draft during pro day workout - Andscape

NFL scouts left last year’s pro day at Jackson State University buzzing about linebacker James Houston, whom the Detroit Lions ultimately selected in the sixth round of the 2022 draft. On Monday, Tigers football coach T.C. Taylor wondered who they would be talking about after this year’s...

andscape.com

We were thin at the Bolden position

 

[Boomer B]

CBS with their grades:

17. Patriots: Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon​

Grade: A

I had him ranked as the top corner in this draft. For him to fall this far is amazing to me. The Patriots traded down and still filled a major position of need. Nice job.

46. Patriots: Keion White, EDGE, Georgia Tech​

Grade: C-

Patriots EDGE all the way. Huge, thick, powerful hands. Tested well but doesn't play to that level on the field. Can be slippery getting upfield or stiff and stagnant when he takes on blocks. Can he win fast enough in the NFL? No offense?

76. Patriots: Marte Mapu, LB, Sacramento State​

Grade: B-

Safety who'll play LB in the NFL. Found the football often in coverage too. Big hitter with range. Plus athlete. A little redundant with Kyle Dugger on that defense. And still no offense?

107. Patriots: Jake Andrews, C, Troy​

Grade: B

Andrews is a mean battler at center with some burst. Understands angles/leverage very well, particularly for the ground game. Low center of gravity. Played guard before his final season. Must add sand in his pants in pass pro to deal with bull rushers. A little early but a very Patriots pick.

112. Patriots: Chad Ryland, K, Maryland​

Grade: F

Accurate kicker but doesn't have a big leg. I get kickers can be drafted but trading up for a kicker in the fourth round?

117. Patriots: Sidy Sow, OG, Eastern Michigan​

Grade: A

Ultra-experienced, big, balanced, athleticism specimen at guard who's rarely out of position or off balanced. Combo-blocking machine. Hand work is good. Hard to find a flaw to his game. Bit surprised no offense weapon has been added yet.

144. Patriots: Atonio Mafi, G, UCLA​

Grade: C-

Enormous, phone-booth blocker and will devastate smaller rushers at the next level. Only problem is he doesn't have lateral quickness whatsoever and his balance needs work.

187. Patriots: Kayshon Boutte, WR, LSU​

Grade: B+

Boutte's testing numbers were bad, which is likely why he sunk this far. After the catch, he combines balance with plus cutting skill to knife through the defense. Not a major separator. Low-risk, possibly high-reward WR for Patriots who works best underneath.

192. Patriots: Bryce Baringer, P, Michigan State​

Grade: B-

Arguably the best punting prospect in the class. Big, booming leg, which occasionally leads to him outkicking his coverage. Lacks touch on shorter kicks.

210. Patriots: Demario Douglas, WR, Liberty​

Grade: A-

Small, decently compact slot WR who runs good, not amazing routes. Explosive after the catch. Very tough to corral. Flashes a bigger catch radius than his size would indicate. Very Patriots pick.

214. Patriots: Ameer Speed, CB, Michigan State​

Grade: D+

Oversized outside CB who wins with physicality at the line. Decent explosiveness. Long speed is an issue.

245. Patriots: Isaiah Bolden, CB Jackson State​

Grade: C+

Jackson State had a lot of talent at cornerback, which forced Bolden to play out of the slot quite a bit. He has great length and speed to transition to a more traditional boundary role for a player with his traits.

 

[NashuaPats]

There goes Vorhees to the Ravens.

Perfect. Ray Lewis can kill him repeatedly and he will always bounce back.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I hope the *****es here have a good cry tonight.

 

[rochrist]

CBS with their grades:

17. Patriots: Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon​

Grade: A

I had him ranked as the top corner in this draft. For him to fall this far is amazing to me. The Patriots traded down and still filled a major position of need. Nice job.

46. Patriots: Keion White, EDGE, Georgia Tech​

Grade: C-

Patriots EDGE all the way. Huge, thick, powerful hands. Tested well but doesn't play to that level on the field. Can be slippery getting upfield or stiff and stagnant when he takes on blocks. Can he win fast enough in the NFL? No offense?

76. Patriots: Marte Mapu, LB, Sacramento State​

Grade: B-

Safety who'll play LB in the NFL. Found the football often in coverage too. Big hitter with range. Plus athlete. A little redundant with Kyle Dugger on that defense. And still no offense?

107. Patriots: Jake Andrews, C, Troy​

Grade: B

Andrews is a mean battler at center with some burst. Understands angles/leverage very well, particularly for the ground game. Low center of gravity. Played guard before his final season. Must add sand in his pants in pass pro to deal with bull rushers. A little early but a very Patriots pick.

112. Patriots: Chad Ryland, K, Maryland​

Grade: F

Accurate kicker but doesn't have a big leg. I get kickers can be drafted but trading up for a kicker in the fourth round?

Interesting, the scouting reports all have him with a HUGE leg, made 60 percent of his career kicks of 50+ yards, video of him kicking 62 and 66 yarders.