Who's your Mount Rushmore of Boston Sports?

[yukon cornelius]

But I'm not sure Ortiz is my #2 Red Sox.......

 

[yukon cornelius]

the more i think about it, i love papi, but he's down my red sox list for sure

 

[Bruins29]

yeah, i skipped that one on purpose......

We probably all should

Anyhoo. You know that even though he didn’t melt down while on the pats Dave Meggett would maybe qualify. He’s doing 30 years.

 

[yukon cornelius]

We probably all should

Anyhoo. You know that even though he didn’t melt down while on the pats Dave Meggett would maybe qualify. He’s doing 30 years.

i tried to keep it a little light hearted i guess......i didn't include piersall, either, just because it didn't feel right

 

[yukon cornelius]

i'm thinking Papi wouldn't even make my Red Sox Rushmore

Williams
Pedro
Yaz


then it gets dicey......Clemens might get the call, but eff that guy, he took himself out of Game 6.......Cy Young historically would make sense, you've got old timey guys like tris speaker or double x.......youve got either of the gold dust twins, hell even manram......Papi was a heck of a guy, and there's the whole "This is our ****ing city" inspiring recency bias.......but i'm not even sure he's in my red sox top 10.....hell Carlton Fisk has as good a chance as Papi in my book

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Your obviously don’t get what we are talking about I thought you might be 25. You are 42?

what does what we are discussing have anything to do with having seen a player play

Whatever your age you obviously ate paint chips as a kid


Chara ROTFLMMFAO

I’m not threatened or triggered by your opinion…you seem to be by mine.

The question reads “who is YOUR Mount Rushmore”.

By it’s nature, a subjective topic.

How could anyone possibly include players they never saw play a game?

Be like ranking a food top three that one has never tasted.

The real question underlying all this is the “era” question.

Wether one believes players from different eras should be evaluated against the level of competition NOW, or against the one they played in at the time.

I’ve seen video of Jack Lambert playing…can’t put him near top All-time LB because I don’t believe he’d even make a team today. Too small, not enough lateral agility for MLB, and too slow for a Safety.

Similar with other sports…many of the generational greats are, IMO, unlikely to have been competitive with today’s athlete.

Doesn’t diminish their careers for what they were…but it does factor into an All-Time great/Mount Rushmore conversation to me.

 

[Steve102]

i'm thinking Papi wouldn't even make my Red Sox Rushmore

Williams
Pedro
Yaz


then it gets dicey......Clemens might get the call, but eff that guy, he took himself out of Game 6.......Cy Young historically would make sense, you've got old timey guys like tris speaker or double x.......youve got either of the gold dust twins, hell even manram......Papi was a heck of a guy, and there's the whole "This is our ****ing city" inspiring recency bias.......but i'm not even sure he's in my red sox top 10.....hell Carlton Fisk has as good a chance as Papi in my book

Good idea.

Pats Rushmore:
Brady
Hannah
Gronk
For me it get's tough after that. There's a whole bunch of guys in a log jam: Seymour, Law, Tippett, Mike Haynes, Vinatieri, Capaletti, Harrison, maybe Bruschi or Steve Nelson. Now we are opening to Willie McGinest. You could easily cop out and do Belichick and or Kraft, but I want to stick with players. I'll think on that one. Pains me to put Gronk up there, with all of his meatheaded-ness especially after he left, but while he was here, wow what a fun player.

Red Sox Rushmore:
Williams
Papi
Pedro
Yaz
That to me was waaaaaaaaaaay easier.

Bruins, of which I am least qualified:
Orr
Bourque
Esposito
Maybe Neely or Bergeron. Again, I am a very casual fan, so I defer to some of the bigger B's fans. I can't be wrong by much more than 1 guy.

Celtics Rushmore:
Russell
Bird
Cousy
Havlicek

Boston Area Coaches:
Belichick
Red
Tito
Ross

 

[RobertWeathers]

i'm thinking Papi wouldn't even make my Red Sox Rushmore

Williams
Pedro
Yaz


then it gets dicey......Clemens might get the call, but eff that guy, he took himself out of Game 6.......Cy Young historically would make sense, you've got old timey guys like tris speaker or double x.......youve got either of the gold dust twins, hell even manram......Papi was a heck of a guy, and there's the whole "This is our ****ing city" inspiring recency bias.......but i'm not even sure he's in my red sox top 10.....hell Carlton Fisk has as good a chance as Papi in my book

I'm gonna argue hard for Papi....and I appreciate Ted Williams more than anything. GOAT hitter of all-time. Yaz as well. Pedro of course.

Papi also had great numbers. #2 hitter in Red Sox history but that only part of the story.

For those of us who suffered through the late 70s, 80s, 90s and early 2000s, what the 2003 and on Red Sox did was bring a championship -attitude every year. We were no longer the weak sisters to the Yankees. Papi personified that. Clutch play. Leader during the Boston Marathon bombings. He was the face of the franchise and represented them well. Winning World Series titles put him there.

Clemens.....Such a disappointment on a number of levels.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

I’m not threatened or triggered by your opinion…you seem to be by mine.

The question reads “who is YOUR Mount Rushmore”.

By it’s nature, a subjective topic.

How could anyone possibly include players they never saw play a game?

Be like ranking a food top three that one has never tasted.

The real question underlying all this is the “era” question.

Wether one believes players from different eras should be evaluated against the level of competition NOW, or against the one they played in at the time.

I’ve seen video of Jack Lambert playing…can’t put him near top All-time LB because I don’t believe he’d even make a team today. Too small, not enough lateral agility for MLB, and too slow for a Safety.

Similar with other sports…many of the generational greats are, IMO, unlikely to have been competitive with today’s athlete.

Doesn’t diminish their careers for what they were…but it does factor into an All-Time great/Mount Rushmore conversation to me.

Who's talking about Jack Lambert? To not include Ted Williams cause you didn't personally see him at Fenway in his prime is kind of ignorant to be frank. This thread is about all-time Boston greats, so by definition it needs to consider players you didn't see unless you're 90+ years old. Boston sports didn't start in 1995.

My .02 is that it's a 7-man list, not 4:
- in no particular order, Ted WIlliams, Bill Russell, and Tom Brady occupy the top 3 spots. They were the best and/or most successful for 13+ years each.

- Bird, Orr, Pedro, and I think Papi occupy the next rung, incredible legends whose brilliance didn't last as long as the 3 above but were arguably among the greatest of all time for that briefer 6-8 year span.

Coaching: there's Red Auerbach and Bill Belichick, the 2 greatest not only here but in American pro sports history.

 

[yukon cornelius]

remy might go on my rushmore just because that was my 2nd year of little league number.....and it was an upgrade over 16 the previous year, which was tom burgmeier

Who's talking about Jack Lambert? To not include Ted Williams cause you didn't personally see him at Fenway in his prime is kind of ignorant to be frank. This thread is about all-time Boston greats, so by definition it needs to consider players you didn't see unless you're 90+ years old. Boston sports didn't start in 1995.

In no particular order, Ted WIlliams, Bill Russell, and now Tom Brady occupy the top 3 spots. They were the best and/or most successful for 13+ years each.

Bird, Orr, Pedro, and I think Papi need to occupy the next rung, incredible legends whose brilliance didn't last as long as the 3 above but were arguably the greatest of all time for that period.

So my .02 is that it's a 7-man list, not 4.

Coaching: there's Red Auerbach and Bill Belichick, the 2 greatest not only here but in American pro sports history.

if you dropped ted into the MLB today, he'd still be the best hitter

 

[Bruins29]

I’m not threatened or triggered by your opinion…you seem to be by mine.

The question reads “who is YOUR Mount Rushmore”.

By it’s nature, a subjective topic.

How could anyone possibly include players they never saw play a game?

Be like ranking a food top three that one has never tasted.

The real question underlying all this is the “era” question.

Wether one believes players from different eras should be evaluated against the level of competition NOW, or against the one they played in at the time.

I’ve seen video of Jack Lambert playing…can’t put him near top All-time LB because I don’t believe he’d even make a team today. Too small, not enough lateral agility for MLB, and too slow for a Safety.

Similar with other sports…many of the generational greats are, IMO, unlikely to have been competitive with today’s athlete.

Doesn’t diminish their careers for what they were…but it does factor into an All-Time great/Mount Rushmore conversation to me.

Ok be an idiot. At least this will be entertaining

 

[Bruins29]

if you dropped ted into the MLB today, he'd still be the best hitter

BuT wE nEvEr SaW hIm PlAy

LMAO

Chara Lol. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[yukon cornelius]

Good idea.

Pats Rushmore:
Brady
Hannah
Gronk
For me it get's tough after that. There's a whole bunch of guys in a log jam: Seymour, Law, Tippett, Mike Haynes, Vinatieri, Capaletti, Harrison, maybe Bruschi or Steve Nelson. Now we are opening to Willie McGinest. You could easily cop out and do Belichick and or Kraft, but I want to stick with players. I'll think on that one. Pains me to put Gronk up there, with all of his meatheaded-ness especially after he left, but while he was here, wow what a fun player.

Red Sox Rushmore:
Williams
Papi
Pedro
Yaz
That to me was waaaaaaaaaaay easier.

Bruins, of which I am least qualified:
Orr
Bourque
Esposito
Maybe Neely or Bergeron. Again, I am a very casual fan, so I defer to some of the bigger B's fans. I can't be wrong by much more than 1 guy.

Celtics Rushmore:
Russell
Bird
Cousy
Havlicek

Boston Area Coaches:
Belichick
Red
Tito
Ross

bruins

orr bourque espo bergeron - i have a hard time leaving neely off this list, he's almost a gronk type omission for me......there's a bunch of others that are right there, too

celtics

russell bird havlichek - then it gets tough......i might go mchale, could go pierce, could go parish, could go cousy.......

red sox

williams yaz pedro - i might go jim ed here, but nothing wrong with ortiz i guess.....but there's a long list of guys right on the cusp

patriots

brady hannah tippet are locks for me.......gronk is in cam neely terriroty, the greatest ever at his position, but.....i might go stanley morgan as my 4th

 

[Steve102]

BuT wE nEvEr SaW hIm PlAy

LMAO

Chara Lol. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Bro, you're locked in on the Chara thing, eh ?

 

[Bruins29]

bruins

orr bourque espo bergeron - i have a hard time leaving neely off this list, he's almost a gronk type omission for me......there's a bunch of others that are right there, too

Did you say originally that Neely like gronk was the goat at his position. I thought I saw that

There is not a bigger Neely fan on here than me. But he isn’t close to being the goat RW player. Howe and Jager are clearly ahead

If you wanted to say Neely was the best 2way right winger to ever play. You have a case

 

[203Pat]

I’m not threatened or triggered by your opinion…you seem to be by mine.

The question reads “who is YOUR Mount Rushmore”.

By it’s nature, a subjective topic.

How could anyone possibly include players they never saw play a game?

Be like ranking a food top three that one has never tasted.

The real question underlying all this is the “era” question.

Wether one believes players from different eras should be evaluated against the level of competition NOW, or against the one they played in at the time.

I’ve seen video of Jack Lambert playing…can’t put him near top All-time LB because I don’t believe he’d even make a team today. Too small, not enough lateral agility for MLB, and too slow for a Safety.

Similar with other sports…many of the generational greats are, IMO, unlikely to have been competitive with today’s athlete.

Doesn’t diminish their careers for what they were…but it does factor into an All-Time great/Mount Rushmore conversation to me.

You're responding to arguably the worst poster on this site.

 

[Steve102]

bruins

orr bourque espo bergeron - i have a hard time leaving neely off this list, he's almost a gronk type omission for me......there's a bunch of others that are right there, too

celtics

russell bird havlichek - then it gets tough......i might go mchale, could go pierce, could go parish, could go cousy.......

red sox

williams yaz pedro - i might go jim ed here, but nothing wrong with ortiz i guess.....but there's a long list of guys right on the cusp

patriots

brady hannah tippet are locks for me.......gronk is in cam neely terriroty, the greatest ever at his position, but.....i might go stanley morgan as my 4th

We are pretty much the same here. I think Ortiz gets the nod for the clutch post seasons, the marathon speech and his gregarious nature. He's just cool.

 

[Triumph]

1. TB12
2. Papi
3.Chara

Honestly?

No one talks about Ted Williams, Bill Russell, etc who isn’t 80.

Babe Ruth?

Baseball is all about heritage and tradition.

 

[Triumph]

how did i not know that oil can boyd was too drunk to pitch in game 7 if '86?

all time Boston crazies

oil can boyd
bill lee
irving fryar
mike millbury (just for hitting a fan with his own shoe)

Manny Ramirez

 

[Bruins29]

You're responding to arguably the worst poster on this site.

That would be you **** lips