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Trade Henry or Jonnu and gain 8 million in space.
Cut T brown , Bailey, Folk and gain round another 8-10 million
With 50 million and few restructures bring it to 60 +

Resign Meyers, J Jones, McDermott, Peppers. ( 35 million odd)
Remaining 25 million sign Tremaine Edmunds , two OT and veteran CB for depth.

14 - take the best WR
2nd ,3rd, 4th round - best available player ( CB, FS,OT)
5th round - Tight end
6th round - kicker/ punter
7th round - CB

I think it's a criminal waste having two Tight ends when we don't know how to use them . Not sure if a new OC would know it as well. Might be better to just get a fullback instead.
 
This board is insane and delusional; there’s NO CHANCE the patriots would ever fire Belichick. The Patriots could go 0-17 next year and his coaching seat would still be the coolest in all of North American sports.
People have said that about legendary coaches in the past but the Employment Grim Reaper comes for them all.
 
People have said that about legendary coaches in the past but the Employment Grim Reaper comes for them all.
Charles De Gaulle like to say cemeteries are populated by those who thought they were indispensable.
 
The reason why I say consider firing Belichick is because any other coach in the league did what he did and put Patricia in charge of both the play calling duties and the offensive line and Judge as QBs coach and they failed as miserably as they did, that head coach would be fired.

Belichick made these moves against Kraft's objections. Kraft said that Belichick has earned the right to make these head scratching moves because he is the GOAT. But that also tells me that, he might have used up most of his GOAT clout with Kraft already.

If Belichick is back next year which I expect he will, he will most likely have to produce or he may not break Shula's record with the Patriots. I think he will need that playoff win next year or he is done with the Patriots. But some of Kraft's words this past offseason about how this team needed to get a playoff win and his not being on board with Patricia means that I wouldn't be shocked if Belichick "resigns", is fired, or traded before the playoffs is over.
Wow--you've been backing Mac Jones for an entire year while being open to Belichick getting fired? I'm stunned. Seriously.
 
I agree with everything you said about how Belichick coached the team this year. I just think that before you fire one of the winningest coaches in history he will consider changing the coaches around Bill. Usually when a team underperforms they replace the assistants or change up the play caller instead of firing the head coach. I expect that to happen this year two. A big question would also be who would replace Belichick, they can’t get rid of him without a quality replacement. Maybe Kraft insists Bill brings in OC from outside his normal coaching tree. Then that would provide them with a name to go to next and help in the immediate.

In terms of a 3rd down back, I’d be fine with them drafting a guy but no earlier than the 4th. I also think Strong could grow into that role as he certainly has the speed to be a threat to run by linebackers in the pass game.

I’d love a number one receiver but if they look for that guy in the draft that player probably won’t fill that role in year 1. I’d love Evans, or Hopkins but that would probably limit the other areas the Pats can improve this offseason (I wouldn’t want to sign a receiver to such a big contract that we couldn’t also upgrade at tackle and corner). Michael Thomas might be a guy who they could take a lottery ticket on in hopes he can finally get healthy.
Of course, they probably overperformed the talent.
 
Should resign McDermott, did a hell of a job at RT where we had a lot of trouble getting consistent play.
Hopefully NOT. I thought he was pretty bad.
 
Some random thoughts going into the offseason:

1.) I tired of people saying that Pats need an elite QB. Anyone who says that have to be willing to give the Pats at least two to three decades to get one because that is the likely timeframe we are looking at for that to happen. Fact is that if the Pats are going to compete for a title again in a lot of our lifetimes is with a good QB with a lot of pieces around him. Fact is the Pats won't be getting an elite QB anytime soon.

2.) I see zero chance that Matt Patricia will be calling offensive plays next year. Kraft was never on board with that idea as he stated last March. After the disaster of the season, there is no way Kraft will allow Belichick give Patricia year two even if it means Belichick walks.

3. ) Speaking of Belichick, if I was Kraft, I would at least be considering whether it was time to move on from him. I have been known as a Belichick apologist in the past, but this year makes me wonder if he is just holding on to get Shula's record. Everything that made him the GOAT were the opposite this year. Belichick coached teams were always the smarter team on the field, but not this year. He was always about attention to details, but the Pats were very sloppy and mistake prone this year. He was always about situational awareness, but the Patriots have been a disaster in handling red zone situations, timeouts, clock management, etc. He was always about playing all 60 minutes, but this team has fallen apart at ends of games. He has always been about all three phases of the game, but except for Marcus Jones and a few others, the special teams have been miserable.

Maybe this year will be a wake up call for Belichick and he will refocus, but he could be like a player on the verge of retirement who just doesn't have the fire anymore.

4.) The Patriots need a true #1 WR. They don't have Brady anymore. Only elite QBs can function with a bunch of decent #2 and #3 receivers and no go to guy. But even most of Brady's career, he always had a go to guy from Troy to Moss to Welker to Gronk to Edelman. Jones doesn't even have a reliable guy he knows he can go to in a pinch. Unfortunately, the free agent market is bare of #1 WRs. So the Pats will have to trade or draft one. I would say potential trades could be DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, and Tee Higgins.

5.) I saw something about Doug Peterson last night where he said he meets with his QB and the rest of the offense and tries get their strengths and weaknesses and tries to gear his offense around that. It has done wonders for Trevor Lawrence this year. It is the opposite of what Patricia seems to have done with deciding what offense he wanted and tried to force the talent to run it. Whoever is the OC next year, they need to be more like Peterson and less like Patricia.

6.) Anyone who has watched the Pats play the Bills the last few years, one of the free agents this offseason the Pats should be chasing is Tremaine Edmonds. Every list of free agents I see have him outside the top 20, but I think he is the lynchpin of the Bills' defense.

7.) The Pats need a true third down back. I know injuries/retirement took away their options this season, but they never tried to replace them. Damien Harris likely gone in free agency, they cannot over use Stevenson like they did this year.

8.) The Pats will end up giving Jones one more year to prove himself. This year was a wash because of Patricia. Jones has shown enough from Thanksgiving on that he might be a good starting QB with a real OC and more talent around him.
5.) The whole reason the Patriots changed their offense was to make it more suited for Mac Jones and what he was used to at Alabama.

8.) Ty Montgomery and Pierre Strong are the James White replacements
 
5.) The whole reason the Patriots changed their offense was to make it more suited for Mac Jones and what he was used to at Alabama.

8.) Ty Montgomery and Pierre Strong are the James White replacements
I feel like Ty would've had a good year if healthy
 
Bill’s own words

“I think they’re both good coaches,” he told Dan Shaugnessy of Patricia and Judge. “Ultimately, it’s my responsibility, like it always is. So if it doesn’t go well, blame me.
 
Here's the issue with this.

AFC Playoff picture:

1. Patrick Mahomes: 1st round
2. Josh Allen: 1st round
3. Joe Burrow: 1st round
4. Trevor Lawrence: 1st round
5. Justin Herbert: 1st round
6. Lamar Jackson: 1st round
7. Tua Tagovailoa: 1st round

Yes I realize Tua and Lamar didn't finish the season, their teams got in the playoffs because of them. So 7 out of 7 were in the first round. If we managed to sneak in... it would have still been another first round QB. If the Steelers managed to get in, it would have been another 1st round QB.

Yes I realize the NFC is very different. But the fact is the AFC is loaded and first round QB's are propelling teams into contention that weren't always in contention.
Trevor Lawrence hasn't proven anything yet. I've watched him 6 or 7 times this year and every time I watch him he has a really bad game. He is not very accurate, to put it kindly. But neither was Josh Allen in his 2nd year.

Tua? I just don't think he's very good at all.

We can't chase QBs here and expend resources on a position with a super high bust ration (1 good one for every 4 busts).
 
Going even further look how many teams are in there twice or more.
After Kelly left, the Bills expended picks on Rob Johnson (1st), Todd Collins (2nd), Drew Bledsoe (1st), JP Losman (1st), Trent Edwards (2nd), & EJ Manuel (1st), and Josh Allen (2 1sts + 2 2nds)!

Hey, it only took 25 years, 6 first round draft picks and 4 second round draft picks to land Josh Allen.

And oh yeah, 20+ years of high draft picks because you never once made the playoffs.

The Patriots should follow this blueprint!

Heck, Cincinnati too!

And San Diego!

And Jacksonville!

How did these teams end up with great QBs? Hmmmmmmmmmm
 
Minimum 90 att (or even just 13att), Zappe is the only player with a completion percentage over 70% this season. I don't know who's gonna start next year, and I just want whoever's good, but I've said this before when I think one of BB's biggest mistakes this season (well, except the glaring one) was having Mac start on a small pitch count over Zappe during the Bears game. Should've ridden the hot hand until he sucked, especially with Mac still recovering from injury.
 
AR12 to NE, would love to see Bill paired up with him.
 
I've had a couple so don't kill me on this one BUT.. if Kraft is looking for a coaching change could he trade BB to New Orleans for Sean Payton?
OMG, this obsession with getting rid of BB for payton is really going overboard. You guys think this team is ready to win a SB with sean payton or whoever new? Be ready for another 2-3 yr rebuild by which you will want him fired too.
 
After Kelly left, the Bills expended picks on Rob Johnson (1st), Todd Collins (2nd), Drew Bledsoe (1st), JP Losman (1st), Trent Edwards (2nd), & EJ Manuel (1st), and Josh Allen (2 1sts + 2 2nds)!

Hey, it only took 25 years, 6 first round draft picks and 4 second round draft picks to land Josh Allen.

And oh yeah, 20+ years of high draft picks because you never once made the playoffs.

The Patriots should follow this blueprint!

Heck, Cincinnati too!

And San Diego!

And Jacksonville!

How did these teams end up with great QBs? Hmmmmmmmmmm
buffalo mades the playoffs 2/3 years after Kelly retired under Wade Phillips (w Doug Flutie), something bill Belichick could not do after tom Brady left...6-10, 10-6, 11-5.... better than the Patriots post brady
 
Kraft needs to go to bill and demand coaching staff changes. If bill is unwilling to jettison patricia or make significant changes to offensive coaching staff it might be time for a change.

Macs not a bad player. He was poorly coached this year

Why do people think Bill won't make the changes himself? FFS. Bill has fired people before. Seriously.
 
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