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Obviously with the way the defense played QB was hardly a factor here, but Zappe appears to have the same issue as Mac, can't play from behind. Both seem fine playing with a lead. Either way both have alot of growing to do before you can really feel hopeful as a franchise qb.
At least this will quiet the Zappe crowd.
BB should not have yanked Mac that quick. Now you're at risk of losing the team's trust.
The 2nd half plan was not a plan, just a surrender. Everytime we bring back Collins it's useless, and our D gets worse.
We lost Dugger, Phillips & Andrews. This is bad.
We could easily lose to the Jets next week, then it's rock bottom.
It will slow down the hope that he's the next great thing, but the idea that he's the better option than Mac going forward will take only a small hit, if any.
Commit to Zappe, trade Wynn, trade Agholor, trade Mac in the off-season. Use your cap next year to build around Zappe and see what you can make happen.
No idea what the outcome of that would be but it’s one approach you could take.
I'm on the move on from Belichick train. He's a great coach and he's won us a lot of championships but I don't really know if he can turn this ship around again to being a championship caliber team. You can be a great coach but that doesn't mean your philosophy and culture can keep winning forever.
The QB stuff I'm not too bothered about for some reason. It's these 200+ yds (or close to it) rushing games I've seen the last few years against the Pats that are just brutal to watch. Not sure how Rham/DHarris only had 14 att for 47yds combined against the 2nd worst rushing defense. "What are we doing?"
Zappe finally saw a team that realized he's a 4th round rookie, who's also short, and they brought the heat.
2 INT's, 1 Fumble and 3 batted balls. That's bad.
As opposed to Mac throwing a dumb pick as he's trying to knock the rust off.
The answer is simple. BB needs to have a heart to heart with Mac, and give him a public vote of confidence, restart the offense with the game plan from DET/CLE and stop coaching like you're just trying not to lose.
Do you think Belichick can turn this around? It's just not looking good right now so that's why I'm sorta feeling like his time is almost up as the coach.
Let's be honest, neither of these guys is likely to be a decade long franchise QB, Pats are treading water with these guys. Mac deserves more time to show what he can do through the end of the year, but signs are pointing toward a need to rethink the QB position and the coaches around the QB.
That game should go a LONG way towards show everyone that this team is really, really far away.
Bill is going to have to rehaul a good chunk of this team in the off-season and if we get returns on those players closer to Judon as opposed to Smith/Aggy then maybe it can be done in a single off season.
The QB stuff I'm not too bothered about for some reason. It's these 200+ yds rushing games I've seen the last few years against the Pats that are just brutal to watch. Not sure how Rham/DHarris only had 14 att for 47yds combined against the 2nd worst rushing defense. "What are we doing?"
People here will laugh but, if BB can move Wynn and create sufficient cap space, he should seriously think about trying to bring Suh in for the rest of the season, in an effort to buttress that DL.
