Mac Watch [Very Old Thread from 2022]

[Guts]

Too bad fantasy don't win divisions.

He's the ultimate homer so makes sense he'd try to make the argument Mac >Brady/Rodgers

 

[PatsFan2]

He's the ultimate homer so makes sense he'd try to make the argument Mac >Brady/Rodgers

He has a lot of competition around here but Mac will have his chance in a week against Rodgers. We'll see who misses the most open Receivers.

 

[203Pat]

Better than Brady and Rodgers so far in fantasy

Something is up with Brady this year. Seems like he regrets coming back to some extent based on his comments about missing birthdays and holidays for 20 years and everything that is allegedly going on with Giselle. I wonder if the Bucs are going to get a "go through the motions" year like we did in 2019 or if he will turn it on at some point. I know it is only two weeks into the year but he has had a very weird offseason with the retirement and unretirement, then going MIA in camp, the somewhat odd comments seemingly regretting coming back, and now Wednesday's off all year long.

 

[sb1]

"Awesome" is strong praise

He's a qb that if you put the right team around him, will usually only win like 10-11 games, and who may not win the division if there is an elite QB in it.

Usually won't get past the divisional round.

I'm not saying he's bad. Its just that as time goes on, patience for QBs like that wears thin. Most cheifs fans now appreciate him, but in real time, they got tired him because he was limited.


We'll have to wait and see with Mac. Who knows, stranger things have happened....

Looked pretty awesome to me when he had Hill, Hunt, Kelce and Charles. Beat the tar out of us twice. He's limited if he doesn't have elite playmakers.

 

[PatsFan2]

Something is up with Brady this year. Seems like he regrets coming back to some extent based on his comments about missing birthdays and holidays for 20 years and everything that is allegedly going on with Giselle. I wonder if the Bucs are going to get a "go through the motions" year like we did in 2019 or if he will turn it on at some point. I know it is only two weeks into the year but he has had a very weird offseason with the retirement and unretirement, then going MIA in camp, the somewhat odd comments seemingly regretting coming back, and now Wednesday's off all year long.

I think this is it for him still can't believe he's played this long but that was his wish if he was healthy. Again win a SB or lose I don't think he comes back after this year.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

The only good thing to say about Mac right now is that he didn't suck as badly yesterday as the other guys' QB did.

So we have that going for us...

And trubisky has far more talent than us

Harris claypool and Diontae Johnson would be our three best players

 

[upstater1]

Something is up with Brady this year. Seems like he regrets coming back to some extent based on his comments about missing birthdays and holidays for 20 years and everything that is allegedly going on with Giselle. I wonder if the Bucs are going to get a "go through the motions" year like we did in 2019 or if he will turn it on at some point. I know it is only two weeks into the year but he has had a very weird offseason with the retirement and unretirement, then going MIA in camp, the somewhat odd comments seemingly regretting coming back, and now Wednesday's off all year long.

Brady was stiff in the hips last year, wasn't getting torque at all.

He should have never come back. Teams can game him easily now because he can only go long or over the middle where he has strength still. He can't make those outs anymore.

Don't know why he came back given his physical limitations.

He is throwing the ball as hard as ever now when he steps into it.

 

[crawhammer]

Brady was stiff in the hips last year, wasn't getting torque at all.

He should have never come back. Teams can game him easily now because he can only go long or over the middle where he has strength still. He can't make those outs anymore.

Don't know why he came back given his physical limitations.

He is throwing the ball as hard as ever now when he steps into it.

Maybe you missed the entire 2021 season but Brady led the NFL in TDs, yards, and should have won his 4th MVP. He's totally fine this season. The problem is he's been missing his top 3 receivers and there's no TE1 on the roster. He threw a god damn missal to Perriman in the back of the end zone for the game-winning score so I don't know what else you want from him in that spot. His physical limitations don't seem much different from any recent season and he still can make any throw. If he ever gets his receiving corps back then he'll be lighting up the box score then. He's more likely than not to get himself in the MVP conversation again by the end of the season. They're probably going to win 13 games and secure the 1 seed. At which point I doubt you'll question his decision to come back.

 

[Ian]

 

[moosekill]

Of course we played a depleted Dolphins team and the Jets with our first two games last year.

 

[captain stone]

And trubisky has far more talent than us

Harris claypool and Diontae Johnson would be our three best players

Add Pickens, the TE Freiermuth & maybe eventually the rookie Calvin Austin (currently on IR) and yeah our WR/TEs don't measure-up, though I do like our RBs a little better, as well as our starters on the OL.

 

[moosekill]

AND THE JETS SUCK.

 

[signbabybrady]

AND THE JETS SUCK.

I think we play them twice this year

 

[mgteich]

To me he looks a lot like the guy he was last season.

I agree. I just don't understand why this is good.

 

[mgteich]

You know this after two games? Against Pitt, Mac moved around better in the pocket and changed plays at the line for a beautiful final clock killing final drive. Sure Mac has to be more accurate, and improve his decisions, but last year everyone wanted the reins to be removed from Mac and this year the Pats have done that. Now we have to be patient and watch to see how Mac grows with the reins removed. It will take time.

So, the question is whether we call tell whether Josh is a better OC than Patricia, after only 2 games? Of course, he is. Do you think that Bill would have fired Josh and replaced him with Patricia? Of course not. We are all hoping that Patricia will be an Ok OC.

 

[203Pat]

Brady was stiff in the hips last year, wasn't getting torque at all.

He should have never come back. Teams can game him easily now because he can only go long or over the middle where he has strength still. He can't make those outs anymore.

Don't know why he came back given his physical limitations.

He is throwing the ball as hard as ever now when he steps into it.

I think Brady's problems are more mental at this point. He seems to have something going on off field that is throwing him off. His press conferences have been strange and even his appearance looks different.

 

[NovaScotiaPatsFan]

Tom didn't exactly have a stellar second year starting either. 62% completion rate vs Mac's 65, 3764 yards vs mac's projected (if it was a 16 game season) 3720. Tom's TD to INT ratio was 2:1 vs Mac's 1:1 right now, but small sample size.

He's dealing with a TON of change, different receivers being thrown in, a new OC whose offensive experience is one year as an offensive assistant and another as an assistant offensive line coach and the Pats aren't exactly the greatest September team in the history of the NFL, not to mention he was running for his life in the first game so I'll wait and see.

Mac has it where it counts IMO, he's got it between the Ears.

 

[203Pat]

Tom didn't exactly have a stellar second year starting either. 62% completion rate vs Mac's 65, 3764 yards vs mac's projected (if it was a 16 game season) 3720. Tom's TD to INT ratio was 2:1 vs Mac's 1:1 right now, but small sample size.

He's dealing with a TON of change, different receivers being thrown in, a new OC whose offensive experience is one year as an offensive assistant and another as an assistant offensive line coach and the Pats aren't exactly the greatest September team in the history of the NFL, not to mention he was running for his life in the first game so I'll wait and see.

Mac has it where it counts IMO, he's got it between the Ears.

Comparing a QB in 2002 to a QB in 2022 might as well be comparing different sports. Brady's 3,764 yards passing in 2002 was good enough for 6th and he lead the league in touchdowns at 28. Compare that to Mac last year and his 3,801 and yards were good enough for 13th and if a QB were to throw for 28 touchdowns last year that would have been 10th highest in the league.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Bourne runs every route that Meyers does, and the fly, corner, and post routes. Meyers runs routes 1-4, particularly because he’s so shifty in and out of his cuts, but can’t get separation on the deeper routes. Bourne has the more robust route tree. Meyers is a better route runner on the underneath and intermediate routes.

Sorry I missed this response.

You think a "fly" or "post" is too complicated for Meyers? I am lost. Meyers has run lots of "flys" over the years, if you remember he gave up on a fly and Brady overthrew him, and Brady was pissed. Maybe you mean Meyers does not run the fly, corner, and post well? Agreed. Meyers runs those routes but does not get separation? Agreed. That is not who Meyers is. Bourne does not run the middle of field adjustments well. Meyers is like Edelman in that he adjusts on the fly (not during a fly route ), which seems to be a challenge for others. Bourne is lost in the MOF when it comes to adjusting to the defense - hence my comment about Borne not getting the decision making like Meyers.

What is a "robust route tree"? Not sure what that is. Sounds like something people say when they want to win an discussion. Meyers is who he is which at the moment is the most productive Patriots receiver. Maybe we agree on this?

 

[Zuma]

I don't know what a More Robust Tree is (sounds like a Seinfeld thing)...but does anyone here doubt that Bourne is Meyers just better and more dynamic ? They both need to be on the field with Agholor...is it rocket science? Phatt Matt?