Wide Receivers depth chart

[venecol]

How is this even possible?

 

[Pats2000]

Give Brady a couple of gluten-free avocado beers, and he’ll give you chapter and verse of his screwups.

Brady says, “If this is what Bill thinks is a first-round WR, count me out.”

And he was outta here.

Harry was thought of by a lot of people as a top pick in the draft. So I don't blame BB for the pick, it just didn't work out. Even if Harry turned into a stud, there's a very large probability that Brady didn't stick around.

 

[Pats2000]

How is this even possible?

It's a good thing he's one of the top receivers making contested catches then.

 

[Pats2000]

So you cherry picked a few WR's who worked out while ignoring the vast majority who didn't... got it.

The average NFL career lasts three years... that's a factual statement not an excuse.

Without bothering to look it up I'd bet the Patriots have drafted fewer WR's than just about any team in the NFL over the last twenty years.

Edelman was drafted to convert him to WR... they didn't draft him as a 5'11" QB... stop being intentionally obtuse.

I agree with you on every point but your last. Edelman was drafted because dude can play football, BB even said he had no idea what position he was going to play. I think it just happened that Edelman found his space as a WR

 

[WhatJustHappened]

What is going to happen by keeping Thornton, who may not be ready to contribute much his first year? Answer. We have to sacrifice a receiver. I hope it’s not Myers. He EARNED it.

We can only keep so many.

He either earns a spot, or develops the Hellenic Flu.

 

[Wozzy]

I agree with you on every point but your last. Edelman was drafted because dude can play football, BB even said he had no idea what position he was going to play. I think it just happened that Edelman found his space as a WR

Nobody knew if he could play WR at the pro level, but that was the plan leaving college.

He even got an offer to play QB in Canada which he turned down.

All of this is beside the point, the moaner above complained BB hasn't drafted WR's well, Edelman became one of the most successful WR's in NFL postseason history... but according to him BB doesn't get credit for him because he played QB in college. Just absurd...

 

[Wozzy]

How is this even possible?

Because "separation" stats are silly... and according to another analytics mill...



Gronk rarely separated from DB's, he was simply too big and physical. Gronk got separation from LB'ers, he was too fast and mobile.

There's a tool for every job. Parker is big, athletic and physical, his physicality is what makes him dangerous... to himself and other teams.

If he stays healthy and is in a good passing attack he is a load to defend.

 

[venecol]

I wonder why BB wasn't able to develop Harry. It's not like he doesn't have the measurables to be a decent receiver, even average, but he's just piss poor. Just absurd.

 

[Twentytothree]

Give Brady a couple of gluten-free avocado beers, and he’ll give you chapter and verse of his screwups.

Brady says, “If this is what Bill thinks is a first-round WR, count me out.”

And he was outta here.

Cool. Do you hang out with him often? Is Gisele there as well?

 

[Zuma]

I wonder why BB wasn't able to develop Harry. It's not like he doesn't have the measurables to be a decent receiver, even average, but he's just piss poor. Just absurd.

Harry’s issue is not physical…you know that. BB can’t teach what is lacking between the ears.

 

[captain stone]

Join the club of posters who think that the patriots are in trouble if our 2nd-4th rounders aren't difference makers as rookies. Of course, no one on Belichick's staff is a member of that club.

Then how about if our 2nd-4th-rounders become difference-makers by the end of their fourth year at least?

Or how about if they just finish their rookie contracts, period?

More likely than not, if Bill's draft picks suck during their first year, then they're gonna suck every year too.

 

[Pats2000]

I wonder why BB wasn't able to develop Harry. It's not like he doesn't have the measurables to be a decent receiver, even average, but he's just piss poor. Just absurd.

I'd say it's lack of work ethic by Harry. He still doesn't fully grasp the playbook

 

[venecol]

Harry’s issue is not physical…you know that. BB can’t teach what is lacking between the ears.

Do you think Bill took it as a personal challenge to coach him up, so he kept him here for 3 years (maybe 4)?

 

[venecol]

I'd say it's lack of work ethic by Harry. He still doesn't fully grasp the playbook

As a coach you should be able to know that about a player in his first year, two tops. Bill must've said to himself, I'll be damned if I can't coach this kid up.

 

[Zuma]

Do you think Bill took it as a personal challenge to coach him up, so he kept him here for 3 years (maybe 4)?

a personal challenge? I don't think 3 years is unreasonable for a 1st round pick.

 

[TheRainMaker]

More likely than not, if Bill's draft picks suck during their first year, then they're gonna suck every year too.

Looking at their draft history recently, there's a strong correlation to this.

Contrary to popular belief, the Pats don't "stash" players or "bring them along slowly". Aside from Wilfork, Warren, Solder and any QB, if they aren't playing right away or by year 2, it's a major red flag.

 

[venecol]

a personal challenge? I don't think 3 years is unreasonable for a 1st round pick.

I mean, let's not kid ourselves, a good coach can tell if a player has "it" or not pretty quickly. We're talking about the goat coach here. It didn't take Bill 3 years to realize what is painfully obvious to every.single.person.in.the.world.

 

[mgteich]

I mean, let's not kid ourselves, a good coach can tell if a player has "it" or not pretty quickly. We're talking about the goat coach here. It didn't take Bill 3 years to realize what is painfully obvious to every.single.person.in.the.world.

Yup. Either a player is going to be a significant contributer or not. This can be told immediately. If the answer is no, then he should be cut. Be serious!

After all, only posters can make such immediate determinations.

 

[venecol]

Yup. Either a player is going to be a significant contributer or not. This can be told immediately. If the answer is no, then he should be cut. Be serious!

After all, only posters can make such immediate determinations.

Arizona moved on from Rosen (1-10 pick) in a heart beat. Replaced him with Murray within a year. I guess they weren't serious, but boy were they smart.

There's dozens of examples of unserious behavior by NFL FOs making such immediate determinations.

 

[mgteich]

Arizona moved on from Rosen (1-10 pick) in a heart beat. Replaced him with Murray within a year. I guess they weren't serious, but boy were they smart.

There's dozens of examples of unserious behavior by NFL FOs making such immediate determinations.

Yup, there are many poorly run organizations.

Belichick does not, does not, give up on a 1sr rounder after a year, or even after two. You can believe that this makes him a bad coach.