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OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

Washington’s defense on that Evans TD. Brate wide open. Godwin literally uncovered (safety was way back).

 
He was screaming at guys on the sidelines I saw some fan vids.
That is encouraging as I want to see the fire from him. I do worry about that just because he is 44 and his coaches IMO are clowns. That can be frustrating plus all the injuries on top. It really is unbelievable to me that he still wants to do this every day and go through the grind and the ups and downs. He is only about 110 completions away from Brees' record so that is in front of him as well as 700 total TDs but I think the fans are the only ones that really care (LOL) because he is so focused on winning and getting another trophy.
 


Arians said this was on Brady. Yeah sure it was coach.

It's horrific that a play like that is on the QB. Darden is a rookie which is probably why Arians blamed Brady which is ridiculous but may be what they agreed upon.
 
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It's horrific that a play like that is on the QB. Darden is a rookie which is probably why Arians blamed Brady which is ridiculous but may be what they agreed upon.
You have to assume that Brady has told Arians to be tough on him because I don't believe he'd say this stuff otherwise. I never heard him say anything like this when the other leaders on the team make mistakes. How many INTs and and mistakes are on Evans? MANY. Not once has he said anything about guys like that.
 
You have to assume that Brady has told Arians to be tough on him because I don't believe he'd say this stuff otherwise. I never heard him say anything like this when the other leaders on the team make mistakes. How many INTs and and mistakes are on Evans? MANY. Not once has he said anything about guys like that.
Evans took the blame for the pick thrown at him and said the other one was on Darden. I don't think Brady much cares what Arians said as I do think there is an agreement there. If you look back on Arians comments with other QBs, Palmer in particular, he never criticized him even when he was throwing pick after pick. So I do think Arians and Tom agreed because at this point, what does it matter to Tom. He played for Bill for 20 years who only gave him praise through gritted teeth.

On the bright side, I think the experience for Darden and these other receivers are huge as come post-season, they will need to contribute to this team just like Tyler did last year with that PI call vs GB to seal the game.
 
Brady and Arians literally went through this exact same kind of drama last year and it was fine.
It was more purposeful last year with Brady being new and wanting to show his teammates he is just another player. What does it accomplish now to keep throwing your best player under the bus after a loss? I don't think this does anything except look stupid.
 
It was more purposeful last year with Brady being new and wanting to show his teammates he is just another player. What does it accomplish now to keep throwing your best player under the bus after a loss? I don't think this does anything except look stupid.

To take pressure and heat off the dumb inexperienced players making mistakes.
 
He could do that by taking the blame himself. He looks like a complete moron.

Well maybe you’re the Bucs whisperer but by all accounts we have going back to last year they’re fine with eachother.
 
He could do that by taking the blame himself. He looks like a complete moron.
He did take blame. Said the coaching was to blame for the loss as they had a good week of practice but played like crap on Sunday. I think the picks thing is overblown. If Brady was not comfortable with the blame, it would not happen.
 
Dr Chao called it



Also told you it was very unlikely to be an ACL tear.

I’m glad to be wrong. Amazing he could predict that based only on the overall direction of the pile without seeing the injury at all.
 
The NFC as a conference is thought to be more “open” in recent history because no team has consistently won the conference. In the AFC, there’s more of a dynastic trend with the Patriots, Chiefs, and to some degree Steelers. But if you look at the reality, it’s mainly due to postseason failures and not overall team strength. The Packers and Saints, after winning the SB in 2010 and 2009, have since combined to make the postseason 15 with 11 appearances in the divisional round. The Packers have 3 conference championship game appearances.

So there really is an old guard here, though the Saints may have just reached the end of their run. The Seahawks have been a consistent contender since 2012 as well.
 
Yeah…the gameplan wasn’t the issue. Darden (ridiculous “INT”) and probably worse Bernard (two ridiculous drops) really changed the momentum. Fournette had 8 catches on 9 passes. That was the way to attack. Problem is they were left with 20 minutes of possession and in a deep hole due to major problems. But this wasn’t an issue of no one being open, pass protection, running game, etc. And to some degree, the Saints game was similar…Brady had good protection against that elite pass rush and guys were open often. Leftwich simply isn’t the problem here at all, and I was constantly bashing him last year for his strategies.
I would argue that the team should have been running the ball more.
 
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