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Week 8 pregame discussion: Pats @ Chargers

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Down on the team because I don't think we'll win 9 or 10 of the next 10? Do you know that poster and his history?

What’s my history?
 
What’s my history?
Irrational takes. I get it we all have different reasons to post on places like this and they are all valid reasons. People clash with you because you aren't realistic and your takes are sometimes ridiculous. All emotion and no rational thought. I prefer takes from people who are fans of this team but aren't foaming at the mouth. No offense even though I guess that is a bit offensive. I hope we win 10 games I really do but it won't happen.
 
It's all about matchups. I said it earlier but Jackson and Williams match up pretty well with Allen and Williams. I'm sure those guys will still make plays but to me the real challenge will be game planning to take away Ekeler. I think our defense can have enough success to win this game. It will be up to the O, and some good ST play would be nice too.
I think JC will do fine against M Williams but I'm not confident Allen doesn't go off against Joejuan. To me, it's a bad matchup. Allen gets open and is a top shelf route runner.
 
Irrational takes. I get it we all have different reasons to post on places like this and they are all valid reasons. People clash with you because you aren't realistic and your takes are sometimes ridiculous. All emotion and no rational thought. I prefer takes from people who are fans of this team but aren't foaming at the mouth. No offense even though I guess that is a bit offensive. I hope we win 10 games I really do but it won't happen.

What’s irrational about predicting 8 more wins? My reasoning is simple. We lost to the two of the best teams in the NFL barely. The remaining teams are not as good with the exception of Tennessee and Buffalo. I conceded those games as losses (Buffalo on the road). The rest of the opponents are simply not elite. Could we lose to the Chargers, Browns, or Colts? sure, any given sunday. But I have reason for optimism because of the way we lost to TB and Dallas.
 
What’s irrational about predicting 8 more wins? My reasoning is simple. We lost to the two of the best teams in the NFL barely. The remaining teams are not as good with the exception of Tennessee and Buffalo. I conceded those games as losses (Buffalo on the road). The rest of the opponents are simply not elite. Could we lose to the Chargers, Browns, or Colts? sure. any given sunday. But I have reason for optimism. On the other hand, for all the 50/50 games we have left you seem to side with our opponents.
Like I said I hope it happens and if it does feel free to @ me and make me dance. I look forward to it.
 
I think JC will do fine against M Williams but I'm not confident Allen doesn't go off against Joejuan. To me, it's a bad matchup. Allen gets open and is a top shelf route runner.
To me, it's JC on allen and JJ on Williams. JJ isn't going to shut anyone down either way, but I don't mind this match up.
 
To me, it's JC on allen and JJ on Williams. JJ isn't going to shut anyone down either way, but I don't mind this match up.
Yeah, that certainly makes more sense. If they get beat, it is what it is, at least you tried your best CB on WR pairings.
 
Yeah, that certainly makes more sense. If they get beat, it is what it is, at least you tried your best CB on WR pairings.
Ya I think the tricky part is balancing getting JJ help over the top with having safety help on Ekeler running or catching out of the backfield.
 
Some good McCourty news....


This 'abdomen' injury is new to me at least. i can't recall ever hearing of a player sidelined with an abdomen before and now this happens to two players this year.
 
The "should haves" though... eh. There's lots of ways to look at that. We were close... and we also couldn't finish. Middling teams usually can't.

The Bucs and Cowboys missed plays because of unforced mistakes. Had those not happened, those two "should have" losses would have been "never had a prayer" blowouts. That's the problem with the "should have..." argument. Far too often, it ignores the "should have" from the other point of view.

Hell, the Dolphins would have been saying "should have" about the late Tua INT, had they lost.
 
The Bucs and Cowboys missed plays because of unforced mistakes. Had those not happened, those two "should have" losses would have been "never had a prayer" blowouts. That's the problem with the "should have..." argument. Far too often, it ignores the "should have" from the other point of view.

Hell, the Dolphins would have been saying "should have" about the late Tua INT, had they lost.

This is the problem when you see things in red and pewter colored glasses. In the Bucs game, the Pats left a lot of plays out there too. The first INT by Winfield, which bounced off the hands of Agholar, and the missed FG by Folk are just a few. But of course you are looking at things from your team’s perspective.
 
Special Teams is something to keep an eye on this Sunday:



So, league’s worst run defense, league’s worst special teams, an offense held to 20 or fewer points in half their games (including 6 in their last one.). Overall, outscored by 2 points on the season. Am I only the one who thinks this team is severely overrated because they beat the Chiefs? Herbert had 31 TDs, 10 INTs last year and they only went 7-9. I think they’re closer to .500 than they are to a contender.

I think the Patriots will exploit their huge weaknesses and win by a touchdown.
 
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