Thornton: N’Keal Harry Worst Acquisition of Belichick’s Career

[lancerman]

The sad thing is if Brady was still here there is a 50-50 chance we win a Super Bowl in a playoff run where Harry has some flukey critically important play and then we’d have to pretend he was worth something after all.

 

[pazrul72]

I had some hope for Harry before this season there were enough possible reasons that maybe he just needed some patience to put it together and get some value from him. That play at this point in his career is beyond unacceptable. I don't know that I would label him worst BB acquisition but he is certainly in the top 5. The reason I can't say worst is I understand the thinking when they thought they were getting a tall strong possession guy like anquin Bolden. I was on board with that though personally I wanted AJ Brown alot more. Twitchy quick pro level route running yes $#%!ING please. I wanted nothing to do with Metcalf predraft so I cant retcon it now and say that was an obvious miss. He had too many red flags and I still think he only works with Wilson cuz he throws the prettiest deep ball in the league. So Brown is the only WR in that draft for me that really hurts when we got this stiff he cant be bothered to learn the damn playbook after 3 years. Easley in my opinion also doesn't qualify as the number one worst acquisition just because his get off was soooo fast. If he had worked out and put it together he would have been Aaron Donald before AD. That kind of talent is worth the risk. I have a hard time putting any draft pick as worst of all time due to invested money. A major bust signing like Adalius Thomas is a much longer term commitment if it doesn't work out.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Yeah, you are correct. BB did get Randy Moss and a lot of other good receivers as FAs. Drafting has been different issue....

Yeah just stay away from WRs and CBs in the draft, period. Something is broken in their draft evaluation there. Get WRs and CBs with low picks, undrafted guys, or free agency.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

The sad thing is if Brady was still here there is a 50-50 chance we win a Super Bowl in a playoff run where Harry has some flukey critically important play and then we’d have to pretend he was worth something after all.

We saw what it was like when Brady was here. Played 0.500 ball the second half of 2019 and the offense struggled to score 20 points per game.

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[AQPE]

Yep, I was gonna reply the same way: 'Niqued Easily also had motivation issues as well as the medical issues. Stupid pick then; stupid pick now.

I wanted UNLV LT/LG Joel Bitonio... Bill should've wanted him too, especially since he traded away Logan Mankin$ just a couple of months later.

I can verify that, Captain I remember from the draft forum you were high on Bitonio.

There is no doubt at this point that Harry was a wasted pick, but based on a quick look back just now at the overall draft, in my opinion it was a very poor year. it doesn’t excuse the pick especially given that Samuel, Brown, and Metcalf at the same position have been so superior to Harry, but other than those 3 you would be challenged I think to find anyone else at any other position who has become a star in the league to this point. At least they got Bailey and Meyers that year.

 

[Kontradiction]

Always remember… he had a great camp.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

The day he was drafted, I posted my doubts. I was worried that Harry could not get open....based on a couple of minutes of watching college highlights. He was making all these spectacular catches, but they had to be spectacular because he was covered. If you cannot get open against college DBs what are you going to do in the pros? If a schlub like me see this, ah, basic issue, why can't the Patriots?

So Bill (Josh?), evaluating a WR prospect is not that hard; can he get open? Why is it so hard for you?

The Patriots overthought this pick and chose Harry based on some irrelevant crap such a good interview or great demeanor.

What is really frustrating is that the Patriots simply cannot learn from their mistakes when picking a WR. It is a like a dog constantly chasing a garbage truck. So here we have the best young QB of the draft with no one to throw to and no way to protect him; this is a bush-league move like something the Jets would do.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Always remember… he had a great camp.

It gave a few posters one more chance to dunk on everyone before changing their usernames.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

************, now Jerry Thornton’s opinion is getting its own thread?

What does Angelo From Everett think?

I like Jerry Thornton; I thought he was great on the air. You guys might think I am a wack job, hut I love Andy Gresh also.

 

[203Pat]

GRONK literally fell asleep at Gillette Stadium during his visit.

Bill Belichick reveals Rob Gronkowski fell asleep on the floor during a pre-draft visit

How did Belichick draft Gronk after this?

patriotswire.usatoday.com

While falling asleep is not ideal it is nowhere near as bad as the red flags Bill ignored with Easley. He threatened to quit the team multiple times at UF, had a bunch of injuries from dog bites he never disclosed to the team before he showed up, and apparently was apart of one of the most unruly classes of all time at Florida (and for that school that is saying something). Apparently Bill sided with Mike "You'd be an idiot to draft Metcalf over K'Neal Harry" Lombardi over the team scouts when he took Easley.

NFC Exec on DT Dominique Easley: "He's a turd."

Belichick Deserves Blame for Easley. That's Okay.

 

[Nehalem]

We saw what it was like when Brady was here. Played 0.500 ball the second half of 2019 and the offense struggled to score 20 points per game.

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In my dreams I see a 2nd half of 2019 where Brady was throwing it to Antonio Brown and AJ Brown.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

In my dreams I see a 2nd half of 2019 where Brady was throwing it to Antonio Brown and AJ Brown.

Brady made the right choice. He looked at Harry, Sanu, AB cut, no TE, overrated oc, put his house on the market and moved to loaded Tampa.

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[‘Mondre]

My guys....

maybe he’s stupid.

have we considered this? Dude could just be dumb.

 

[‘Mondre]

Brady made the right choice. He looked at Harry, Sanu, AB cut, no TE, overrated oc, put his house on the market and moved to loaded Tampa.

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As most of us would’ve done.

I’m happy for Tom. But at the same time, we kinda tried to get that flashy x guy.

ocho? Gordon (kinda)? Moss? AB?

That’s four for one qb.

wanna like Harry sooo bad but I’m out.

he has nice taste in houses tho.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Note that this is Harry's third season. He was first handed a playbook in May of 2019. A simpler time in the long, long ago when people still did things like go to movies and Corona was something you drank. Mac Jones first saw his about six months ago. But he knows what the playcall is. So does Harry's other nine teammates.

The problem is that Harry believes you can learn your playbook by using it as a pillow and it absorbs into your head at night time. Get this CLOWN off my team already! Why isn't his pitiful ass cut and collecting pink slips already? Total lack of awareness and desire by Harry is his biggest problem, even bigger than his inability to create any separation with his molasses slow first step.

PS Jalen Mills is trying his best to give Harry a run for his money for the title 'worst BB acquistion' this year however Jalen Mills only cost us 20m in cash, N'Keal Harry also cost us a premium asset in the form of a 1st round pick. OUCH.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

As most of us would’ve done.

I’m happy for Tom. But at the same time, we kinda tried to get that flashy x guy.

ocho? Gordon (kinda)? Moss? AB?

That’s four for one qb.

wanna like Harry sooo bad but I’m out.

he has nice taste in houses tho.

The thought process was this, and this is what happens when you have 2 dummies who were roommates at a D3 school John Carroll giving BB terrible advice. "Gronk just left, let's get a big WR who supposedly is good in the red zone and the skills that we liked Gronk for".

I realized when it comes to recent Pats moves, just think like a dumba-s and you can clearly understand the thought process. Has nothing to do with BB. But BB is 70 years old. He's listening to and acting on advice from morons around him.

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[scott99]

Chad Jackson and Laurence Maroney deja vu, with Harry, Michel, Wynn. (same oc)

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Michel ran for 1200 yards and 12 TDs as a rookie (13 regular season games and 3 playoff games), he was REALLY good his rookie year. Was so-so his second year, still 900 yards rushing, and last year, he averaged 5.7 yards a carry, despite limited play because of injury (played only 9 games). He’s better than Maroney or Jackson ever were, by far. His issues have always been injuries.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Michel ran for 1200 yards and 12 TDs as a rookie (13 regular season games and 3 playoff games), he was REALLY good his rookie year. Was so-so his second year, still 900 yards rushing, and last year, he averaged 5.7 yards a carry, despite limited play because of injury (played only 9 games). He’s better than Maroney or Jackson ever were, by far. His issues have always been injuries.

Running behind Gronk and Develin and a great Oline in 2018, I think multiple backs would have had a good 2018 post-season (like Blount for example). So I wouldn't use that to reverse justify spending a 1st round pick on a RB when you could have replicated similar production with other players. And combining the post-season to regular season rushing is a bit misleading. He was basically an alright back who ran behind massive, enormous holes in 2018 and always fell down at first contact. In general not a fan of RB in the 1st round, and the triplet of Harry, Michel, Wynn is horrendous and absolutely killing the team right now in depleting overall talent and now trying to make up for it compared to other 1st round picks we could have taken.

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[SteveKiner]

The problem is that Harry believes you can learn your playbook by using it as a pillow and it absorbs into your head at night time. Get this CLOWN off my team already! Why isn't his pitiful ass cut and collecting pink slips already? Total lack of awareness and desire by Harry is his biggest problem, even bigger than his inability to create any separation with his molasses slow first step.

PS Jalen Mills is trying his best to give Harry a run for his money for the title 'worst BB acquistion' this year however Jalen Mills only cost us 20m in cash, N'Keal Harry also cost us a premium asset in the form of a 1st round pick. OUCH.

Whatever happened to the thought of trading Harry for Andy Isabella?. I realize Isabella has performed about as well as Harry(if not worse) but maybe both could use a change of scenery. I know it is trading my garbage for your garbage, but at least Isabella might have some skills that the Pats might be able to use. Speed, quickness, etc.

 

[pazrul72]

The day he was drafted, I posted my doubts. I was worried that Harry could not get open....based on a couple of minutes of watching college highlights. He was making all these spectacular catches, but they had to be spectacular because he was covered. If you cannot get open against college DBs what are you going to do in the pros? If a schlub like me see this, ah, basic issue, why can't the Patriots?

So Bill (Josh?), evaluating a WR prospect is not that hard; can he get open? Why is it so hard for you?

The Patriots overthought this pick and chose Harry based on some irrelevant crap such a good interview or great demeanor.

What is really frustrating is that the Patriots simply cannot learn from their mistakes when picking a WR. It is a like a dog constantly chasing a garbage truck. So here we have the best young QB of the draft with no one to throw to and no way to protect him; this is a bush-league move like something the Jets would do.

Go watch highlights of anquin bolden. He didnt “separate“ either but was still quite effective. I get the thinking in drafting Harry if you think you are getting that guy. The difference is Bolden actually gave AF and fought for the ball and lined up in the right spot. I have no problem with the kind of player they drafted and chalk it up to a costly miss on the specific player who can’t seem to get his head out of his *** and line up correctly after 3 years.