OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[Deus Irae]

Bucs remaining non-division schedule:

@Phlly
Chicago
@Washington
NYG
@Indy
Buffalo
@NYJ

So they've got no more long trip issues, and they've got Chicago and Buffalo at home. Outside of "any given Sunday", I have a hard time finding more than 2 possible losses there.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

Bucs are so much more fun to watch than the patriots 1957 offense

 

[sb1]

Bucs remaining non-division schedule:

@Phlly
Chicago
@Washington
NYG
@Indy
Buffalo
@NYJ

So they've got no more long trip issues, and they've got Chicago and Buffalo at home. Outside of "any given Sunday", I have a hard time finding more than 2 possible losses there.

Same.

Buffalo will be tough. I think that’s the Super Bowl preview. Good that it’s in TB but Buffalo just kicked the tar out of the Chiefs in KC. They’ll have the division wrapped up but they’ll be gunning for the #1 seed. Bucs defense ought to be healthier by then at least.

 

[Haterproof]

Same.

Buffalo will be tough. I think that’s the Super Bowl preview. Good that it’s in TB but Buffalo just kicked the tar out of the Chiefs in KC. They’ll have the division wrapped up but they’ll be gunning for the #1 seed. Bucs defense ought to be healthier by then at least.

I know there's other variables that comes into play but Brady is like Freddy Krueger or Michael Myers to the Bills franchise! I can guarantee you he'll be more than ready for that one!

 

[Haterproof]

Denver's got Vegas this week, so one of them will be dropping back. The following week, Denver's up against the Browns, and Vegas plays the Eagles. That should help the Chiefs, who should (repeat should) beat both Washington and Tennessee. Both those teams have defenses that are really struggling.

But the Chiefs do have a schedule that could end up really biting them in the ass if they don't turn things around, and soon.

I can definitely see Tennessee beating KC! I really don't know what to make of this year's Titans team as of now. Talk about a bipolar hot and cold team!

 

[PatsWSB47]

...should have got a delay of game

 

[Nehalem]

Tom Brady is on pace for 6000 yards passing this year

 

[sb1]

Tom Brady is on pace for 6000 yards passing this year

I think he’s got a good shot at Fivehead’s yardage record at least. That schedule is cake.

55 TD will be tougher. The goose egg against us won’t help.

 

[StrawHatPatriot]

First time posting in this subforum.

I hate when Pats fans say "Brady didn't throw deep much/Brady didn't gave great arm strength when he was young" to defend Mac.

Like... I'll never get this narrative. Go back and watch tape from the early 2000s games, like the 2001 game against the Chargers. Brady still had great zip on the ball, and he still pushed the ball down the field.

Mac Jones, as a pure quarterback, is promising, but he has two flaws he needs to improve ASAP:

1. Throwing past 20 yards. In that Houston game, when he threw farther down field, the passes didn't have enough power on them, and almost got picked off.
2. When getting rushed and backpedalling, Mac has a penchant for trying to force it in or heaving it up, and that's where he would get picked off. That's a no-no for a quarterback. Bad instincts.

Hopefully those are just rookie mistakes.

But overall, I really feel like Pats fans don't really appreciate Brady's play at the position. The instincts he had, his talents, management, clutchness, etc. They don't seem to realize that plenty of good QBs like Rivers, Romo, and Ryan were all very good, and very similar to Brady, but still had crucial flaws. I don't know, I hate it. I still hate how Pats fans were saying that we should have kept Garopollo even if it meant "sacrificing" the 2018 Super Bowl, or ask if the Pats would have won if they kept Bledsoe over Brady. What other fanbase would ever say something like that about their QB?

 

[VectorPrime]

Also Brady was playing the pre Manning Rules pass defense of the early 2000s in those first few years. Then when the rules changed he became the best QB in the league in 2006/07

 

[Zarozzor]

 

[venecol]

That's a huge loss. Most underrated LB in the league.

 

[Pats1971]

That's a huge loss. Most underrated LB in the league.

Low ankle sprain is the best you can get though. Looking at the play, it looked worse then that.

 

[Pats1971]

I think he’s got a good shot at Fivehead’s yardage record at least. That schedule is cake.

55 TD will be tougher. The goose egg against us won’t help.

Yeah but he has two games of 5 td's, that catches you up quick. Plus with this defense, he is damn sure going to have to be scoring a lot.

 

[Haterproof]

Low ankle sprain is the best you can get though. Looking at the play, it looked worse then that.

The Bucs definitely dodged a bullet with that one! A low ankle sprain is the best case scenario

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

First time posting in this subforum.

I hate when Pats fans say "Brady didn't throw deep much/Brady didn't gave great arm strength when he was young" to defend Mac.

Like... I'll never get this narrative. Go back and watch tape from the early 2000s games, like the 2001 game against the Chargers. Brady still had great zip on the ball, and he still pushed the ball down the field.

Mac Jones, as a pure quarterback, is promising, but he has two flaws he needs to improve ASAP:

1. Throwing past 20 yards. In that Houston game, when he threw farther down field, the passes didn't have enough power on them, and almost got picked off.
2. When getting rushed and backpedalling, Mac has a penchant for trying to force it in or heaving it up, and that's where he would get picked off. That's a no-no for a quarterback. Bad instincts.

Hopefully those are just rookie mistakes.

But overall, I really feel like Pats fans don't really appreciate Brady's play at the position. The instincts he had, his talents, management, clutchness, etc. They don't seem to realize that plenty of good QBs like Rivers, Romo, and Ryan were all very good, and very similar to Brady, but still had crucial flaws. I don't know, I hate it. I still hate how Pats fans were saying that we should have kept Garopollo even if it meant "sacrificing" the 2018 Super Bowl, or ask if the Pats would have won if they kept Bledsoe over Brady. What other fanbase would ever say something like that about their QB?

100%

I’ve been meaning to mix this point into a Mac thread but have held off because I’m sure I’m already perceived as a HaTeR. But the idea that Brady played it safe is so inaccurate. And not just downfield throws but splitting safeties, etc. and throwing high-risk, high-reward passes frequently.

It’s Occam’s Razor with Mac: he’s the reason for lack of big plays. In five games, there are plenty of times to make them, even if the o-line has struggled overall. To think he’s “never” able to make a big pass because of protection or WRs. Agholor is definitely a big play guy along with Bourne and Smith. And there’s no way the playbook or coaches are dictating this. It’s more cult thinking on the main forum. Not that I have a problem with Jones kind of wading into the water as he progresses, but let’s just see it for what it is: he’s a huge outlier for a rookie in his mastery of the high percentage pass and aversion to the high-risk, high-damage pass. I’m not sure if I’d rather have a guy with all that arm talent like Wilson, Lance, Lawrence and try to bring things into focus, or the guy with all the focus and intelligence, and try to make him into a guy capable of carrying you.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Gotta admit I was Wicked Pissed ab initio that this hidden sub-forum was created because of the whiners, but now I've come to appreciate the quieter focus this sub-forum and threads provide without the every thread incessant wining about a thread's existence.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Brady’s sack rate in 2001: 9% !!!

Career high. Another strange, anachronistic myth that he was gently eased in. Mac’s rate is 5.5%, closer to league average.

 

[VectorPrime]

Low ankle sprain is CONSIDERABLY better than a high ankle sprain. It’s the difference between coming back at 100% in a few weeks and only coming back at 75% and needing offseason surgery.

 

[VectorPrime]

Brady’s sack rate in 2001: 9% !!!

Career high. Another strange, anachronistic myth that he was gently eased in. Mac’s rate is 5.5%, closer to league average.

2001 is basically being retconned to being a Super Team.