Update: Prince Aaron demands Packers fire GM

[1960Pats]

I don’t hate Rodgers, though he is an odd duck. But I am tired of hearing about QB rating, MVPs etc. The point of the game is to win. Many games in the NFL are winnable in the 4th quarter. Your rating can be sky high, but can you complete the big 3rd or 4th down play against a good team with the game on the line? Can you get a TD instead of a FG? Winners make the plays, wannabes don’t. It is not like GB has been beating down the doors to the SB. Also lost some big games at home in the playoffs (with the biggest home field advantage in the game). The game vs TB could have been won, Brady played like crap in the 2nd half. But so did Rodgers.

The thing that's a real eye opener about Rodgers is his unusually low number of 4th quarter comebacks for a QB with so many games under his belt. And he's had very few if any of them against good teams. The funny thing is that Rodger's only playoff comeback was the win vs the Cowboys when they ruled that Dez Bryant's TD catch wasn't a catch, even though it was.

 

[1960Pats]

If GB has our ownership, they would have worked this out, either with AR staying or with him leaving.

If NE had GB's management, then at some point Brady would have been leaking to the press that he didn't want to return.
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But, I get it. This is a patriots board, and folks are required to hate Rodgers.

There are plenty of NYFL QBs that Pats fans don't hate. Rodgers just isn't one of those.

 

[sean10mm]

Yeah, Rodgers has a weird profile as a player.

1. He doesn't play within scheme a lot of the time. He's regularly going off script to buy time for the deep ball kill shot. He's constantly passing on easy yards within the scheme in the hopes something opens up deep in the last second. So far you can be forgiven for thinking I'm describing Favre here.
2. BUT unlike most gunslinger types who do that, he won't take the shot unless it's a sure thing. So a lot of his drives end with either highlight reel plays or sacks, but not picks.
3. This is all a product of his fundamentally negative view of his position. He wants to avoid blame if they lose more than he wants the team to win. If he tries a risky play in the 4th because it's the only chance of winning and he throws a pick, he can be blamed for the loss. But if he has 3 quarters of great stats and then just plays it safe at the end and they lose, there's always someone else to blame for the loss.

 

[Bill Lee]

Here's to you, Aaron!

Interestingly enough, it seems Dennis O'Leary made up this song based on content he stole from Louis CK.

This comes from an interview with Louis CK himself.

The premise of the bit was "what if it was OK to be an ass-hole?" and included specific things in the O'Leary song, such as parking in handicapped spots.

I think Aaron is pretty much living up to the premise, by publicly saying he thinks his boss should be fired and he should be allowed to pick his next destination even though he's under contract for three years.

These aren't made-up things, these are things we're getting from multiple sources in real time, as opposed to the stuff we got about TB12 after the fact.

If GB has our ownership, they would have worked this out, either with AR staying or with him leaving.

If NE had GB's management, then at some point Brady would have been leaking to the press that he didn't want to return.
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But, I get it. This is a patriots board, and folks are required to hate Rodgers.

This board has trolls, typically fed by Boston sports talk show jack asses.

Trollism is based on gleeful disrespect of others, people who have accomplished a lot more than the listener will ever accomplish, just to make themselves feel better about their own circumstances.

In hindsight, the NE situation was resolved as cleanly as it could have been, and everyone involved deserves some respect for it not becoming a total meltdown. However, to do that, you'd have to have some sympathy and respect and consideration for everyone involved, and some understanding of subtitles and nuance. Instead we often get childish soap opera nonsense because the situation didn't work out the way some wanted it to.

 

[Simpelton]

The thing that's a real eye opener about Rodgers is his unusually low number of 4th quarter comebacks for a QB with so many games under his belt. And he's had very few if any of them against good teams. The funny thing is that Rodger's only playoff comeback was the win vs the Cowboys when they ruled that Dez Bryant's TD catch wasn't a catch, even though it was.

Bryant's "catch" wouldn't have been rated a completion under the new rules either. The ground knocked the ball loose as he was coming down with it. He never had full control of the ball before it hit the dirt, you can see it moving loose in his hands right until it hits the sod.

Sure it bounced back onto his body but that doesn't matter. That's an incompletion 100 times out of 100. Cowboy wishful thinking is the only thing keeping that play alive in peoples' memories.

The Megatron catch and the Jesse James catch were both way closer to legit plays than the Bryant noncatch.



Bryant. Never. Had. Possession. Of. The. Football.

Also can I just say what a stupid play that was by Bryant. If all he does is secure the ball he's got his team in the red zone with 4 minutes to play. If he doesn't lunge for the goal line he probably secures the football, and it's Cowboy ball with first down at the 4 or 5 with all the chance in the world to take the lead back. Instead he tries to do it all himself instead of focusing on getting possession. He could have had a double off the Monster and whiffed due to swinging for a HR only

And for all that, even if you credit the catch, it's not a TD catch. Video review would have placed him down at the 1. The risk he was making wouldn't have gained him anything significant even if it worked.

He risked losing the catch in order to go for the goal, loses control of the football because he's trying to do too much, and wouldn't have even broke the plane if he had made the catch. Terrible play by Dez. First rule of wideouts, lock the rock. if he'd been on the Pats Bill would have torn him a new pooper for that.

 

[NashuaPats]

Yeah, Rodgers has a weird profile as a player.

1. He doesn't play within scheme a lot of the time. He's regularly going off script to buy time for the deep ball kill shot. He's constantly passing on easy yards within the scheme in the hopes something opens up deep in the last second. So far you can be forgiven for thinking I'm describing Favre here.
2. BUT unlike most gunslinger types who do that, he won't take the shot unless it's a sure thing. So a lot of his drives end with either highlight reel plays or sacks, but not picks.
3. This is all a product of his fundamentally negative view of his position. He wants to avoid blame if they lose more than he wants the team to win. If he tries a risky play in the 4th because it's the only chance of winning and he throws a pick, he can be blamed for the loss. But if he has 3 quarters of great stats and then just plays it safe at the end and they lose, there's always someone else to blame for the loss.

I agree with all this. I'll also add that when things aren't going well for him and his team is down, his body language sucks and it's reflected in his play. He doesn't have that refuse to lose attitude that so many great competitors have.

 

[sean10mm]

Rodgers sees everything in terms of credit vs blame, not winning vs losing. Ultimately he's an office politician.

 

[VectorPrime]

In the NFCCG against 49ers he outright quit right after that fumble.

 

[XLIX]

Interestingly enough, it seems Dennis O'Leary made up this song based on content he stole from Louis CK.

I am not saying you're wrong because I don't particularly follow either of those guys terribly closely.... but that CD is something like 30 years old. Was Louis CK even active way back then, writing and performing his own material?

 

[italian pat patriot]

If GB has our ownership, they would have worked this out, either with AR staying or with him leaving.

If NE had GB's management, then at some point Brady would have been leaking to the press that he didn't want to return.
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But, I get it. This is a patriots board, and folks are required to hate Rodgers.

What do you mean ?

 

[mgteich]

What do you mean ?

If AR were a patriot, then Kraft and Belichick would have come to some kind of arrangement, avoiding this crisis, a contract or parting ways.

If Brady were a packer, I don't think that we would have accepted the drafting of Love (without any notice) any more than Rodgers did. And, yes I think Brady would have tried to get out.

 

[Deus Irae]

If AR were a patriot, then Kraft and Belichick would have come to some kind of arrangement, avoiding this crisis, a contract or parting ways.

If Brady were a packer, I don't think that we would have accepted the drafting of Love (without any notice) any more than Rodgers did. And, yes I think Brady would have tried to get out.

So you think the duo who completely botched the Brady situation would have been a success at handling the Rodgers situation?

 

[SteveBsFan]

What's up with 37 year old QBs throwing tantrums after the team drafts a young QB?

Now we're going to see Rodgers in the league for another 8 years just to "prove" his doubters wrong that he is, in fact, near 40.

 

[Deus Irae]

What's up with 37 year old QBs throwing tantrums after the team drafts a young QB?

Now we're going to see Rodgers in the league for another 8 years just to "prove" his doubters wrong that he is, in fact, near 40.

I assume you're talking about Brady and Rodgers. So, which of their two teams do you feel handled the situation appropriately?

 

[VectorPrime]

It’s amazing that anyone compares the two situations. Brady played for 3 1/2 seasons with his mouth shut before essentially forcing the team to either trade him or Jimmy because Brady was still awesome and wasn’t going anywhere. Rogers on the other hand played ONE SEASON before openly demanding a trade.

 

[amfootball]

It’s amazing that anyone compares the two situations. Brady played for 3 1/2 seasons with his mouth shut before essentially forcing the team to either trade him or Jimmy because Brady was still awesome and wasn’t going anywhere. Rogers on the other hand played ONE SEASON before openly demanding a trade.

What's really strange about Rodgers is he just had an MVP season yet he feels threatened by Love. To your point about Brady, he outplayed Jimmy's rookie contract so when Bill still kept Jimmy into the season, Brady figured either he was gone or Jimmy which made sense from a timing standpoint because we could not keep both of them and Brady was also 40.

Rodgers was 37 when they drafted Love and from all reports, Love is not ready just like Jimmy wasn't ready. Rodgers went out and had one of his best seasons, similar to what Brady did in 2014 and yet here he is all disgruntled. I don't get it. He really must be insanely fragile.

 

[RobertWeathers]

As a QB and as an analyst, I have, and will always love Terry Bradshaw.

"Him being that upset shows me how weak he is," Bradshaw said Monday to Moose and Maggie on WFAN. "Who the hell cares who you draft? He's a three-time MVP in the league and he's worried about this guy they drafted last year at No. 1?

"...And for him to be upset, my god, I don't understand that. Pittsburgh drafted Mark Malone No. 1, Cliff Stoudt in the third or fourth round - I had them coming at me from all angles. I embraced it, because when we went to practice, I wasn't worried about those guys. They didn't scare me a bit. So I don't understand why he's so upset at Green Bay."

https://www.audacy.com/sports/nfl/bradshaw-calls-rodgers-weak-says-he-should-retire?utm_campaign=audacy.com%252Fsports&utm_content=1620061643&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter%3F

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Saint Aaron is weak mentally. That is why he eschews taking necessary risks for 4th QTR comebacks.

 

[IllegalContact]

he just wants to get out of the NFC now that Brady is there

 

[RobertWeathers]

I don’t hate Rodgers, though he is an odd duck.

I think he has serious attachment issues.

He excommunicated his parents and siblings and I seriously question is decision making on women.

He discards Amy Rohrbach, Olivia Munn and Danica for Shailene Woodley?

I guarantee he dumps her before the wedding.