Deshaun Watson accused of sexual assault in lawsuit

[Simpelton]

It's strange that you want to defend a creep

Watch as all your credibility vanishes in a puff of nonsense. Watson isn't a creep until this stuff has been proven. One should never suffer sanctions simply as a result of being accused of things. The average human is too good at lying for that to ever be a good idea.

Also, I am not defending Watson. I am defending myself, because the rights you want to strip from Watson in order to skip this whole tedious evidence thing and get straight to the hanging, are my rights too. And if I don't defend them when it's Watson's neck in the noose, they won't be there should I happen to need them

 

[gobesmug]

The silence on the part of two dozen accusers is evidence of nothing at all. Which is my entire point.

Right now we don't even know the names or identities of any of these women. The police have outright stated that zero affidavits have hit their desk either. We have only Buzzbag's word that this number is even accurate. And if you've followed his career, Buzzsaw's word is not particularly credible.

In a word, we have seen nothing but hot air from the plaintiff so far.

When we see faces and hear firsthand accounts, THEN they start to matter to me. If they want to try and ruin a man's life from behind a screen of anonymity then I don't care what they say because they clearly lack the courage to MEAN what they say.

Again, I'm not so much standing up for Watson, as for the Sixth Amendment right to face one's accusers in open court. A right that's been stripped from Watson if this trial by media proceeds in the way Buzz Buzz wants it too. Fortunately Watson, unlike AB, got good legal counsel and is listening to them.

You are right in the fact that going publicly would be courageous, because while the info is being sorted out these woman would be subjected to people harassing them online about being in it for a money grab.

Yes sometimes woman have lied about sexual assault and misconduct.

But the immediate accusation of it only prevents true victims from coming forward. After all how the hell do you prove someone tried to coerce you into an illegal crime?

Maybe these woman don't get their justice, because it impossible to prove something that happened in private without illegal recordings. Remember Kraft got off on his charges because the film was not admissable in court because you can't record someone against their knowledge.

In the end, any female going forward will know what they are getting themselves into if Watson triedls to get a massage from them

 

[gobesmug]

Watch as all your credibility vanishes in a puff of nonsense. Watson isn't a creep until this stuff has been proven. One should never suffer sanctions simply as a result of being accused of things. The average human is too good at lying for that to ever be a good idea.

Also, I am not defending Watson. I am defending myself, because the rights you want to strip from Watson in order to skip this whole tedious evidence thing and get straight to the hanging, are my rights too. And if I don't defend them when it's Watson's neck in the noose, they won't be there should I happen to need them

One of the defendants has a text from Watson asking if she was ok after the incident.

You are blatantly obtuse.

If you want to take the stance of let it play out, that's fine. Heck you probably think OJ is innocent.

Either way don't accuse the victim. If it can't be proved it doesn't mean any of them are lying. Unless their is evidence showing they are lying then leave the money grab talk out of it

 

[Simpelton]

Yes sometimes woman have lied about sexual assault and misconduct.

you just proved my point for me. And the sad part is you don't seem to realize it.

The fact that women can lie is ample reason, on its own, to expect someone accusing a man of something this serious to be prepared to do so under oath, with the right to cross examine. If they're prepared to do that I'll start taking them seriously. I'd love to be wrong and have it turn out that all these women are prepared to do so.

But if that was the case, you'd think at least ONE of them would have obtained counsel independently. Remember, this isn't, or hasn't yet been filed as, a class-action suit. The fact that all of these accusers, all 24 and counting, went to one lawyer and one lawyer only, is unusual to say the least, especially if they were all already planning to make claims against Watson before Buzzbuddy entered the picture. There's plenty of lawyers looking to improve their image by taking sexual harassment claims either pro bono or on retainer. Why does the buzzy buzzy bee get to have all the fun in this matter?

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

One of the defendants has a text from Watson asking if she was ok after the incident.

You are blatantly obtuse.

If you want to take the stance of let it play out, that's fine. Heck you probably think OJ is innocent.

Either way don't accuse the victim. If it can't be proved it doesn't mean any of them are lying. Unless their is evidence showing they are lying then leave the money grab talk out of it

Bring out the evidence and STFU. None of it has been presented yet. No matter what happens people won’t look at watson the same anymore because of this even if he’s innocent because of these jane does. I wish men could face their accusers with their names out in the open.

 

[Simpelton]

One of the defendants has a text from Watson asking if she was ok after the incident.

And that text doesn't go into a lot of detail about what the incident was IIRC. although if the narrative follows the way I think it did, this is probably someone he had a negligent discharge on.

 

[gobesmug]

you just proved my point for me. And the sad part is you don't seem to realize it.

The fact that women can lie is ample reason, on its own, to expect someone accusing a man of something this serious to be prepared to do so under oath, with the right to cross examine. If they're prepared to do that I'll start taking them seriously. I'd love to be wrong and have it turn out that all these women are prepared to do so.

But if that was the case, you'd think at least ONE of them would have obtained counsel independently. The fact that all of these accusers, all 24 and counting, went to one lawyer and one lawyer only, is unusual to say theleast, especially if they were already planning to make claims against Watson before Buzzbuddy entered the picture..

I'm not making your point. Use logic bro.

If you are a rich athlete and want a massage purely for the benefits of muscle relaxation and nothing else, then you find yourself a specialist who gives you exactly what you look for and exclusively use that 1 person.

Think Brady and Guerro.

The fact that he has used so many different woman that he has found through Instagram, meaning woman he found attractive, proves his intentions were not for the best possible massage.

Now can he be proven guilty in a court of law, maybe or maybe not. But logic dictates he was looking to get his balls fondled by pretty woman

 

[Ring 6]

Watch as all your credibility vanishes in a puff of nonsense. Watson isn't a creep until this stuff has been proven. One should never suffer sanctions simply as a result of being accused of things. The average human is too good at lying for that to ever be a good idea.

Also, I am not defending Watson. I am defending myself, because the rights you want to strip from Watson in order to skip this whole tedious evidence thing and get straight to the hanging, are my rights too. And if I don't defend them when it's Watson's neck in the noose, they won't be there should I happen to need them

Why don’t you care about the victims?
No one is stripping any rights from Watson.
The cases are going to go to trial. The claims have been filed with the courts and evidence will be presented at a trial.
Deshaun Watson’s rights fo not include that Simpleton knows the identity and detailed accusations of his accusers at whatever point she wishes to make a judgment on her computer.

 

[gobesmug]

Bring out the evidence and STFU. None of it has been presented yet. No matter what happens people won’t look at watson the same anymore because of this even if he’s innocent because of these jane does. I wish men could face their accusers with their names out in the open.

Evidence is logic.

Why would a multimillionaire who could get the best trained massage therapist, use Instagram to hit up athletic trainers for a groinal massage?

Go on defending a creep and victim shaming

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

And that text doesn't go into a lot of detail about what the incident was IIRC. although if the narrative follows the way I think it did, this is probably someone he had a negligent discharge on.

That ok could be anything. Has to be more stuff in those texts for watson to be charged with something.

 

[JetFan79]

And that text doesn't go into a lot of detail about what the incident was IIRC. although if the narrative follows the way I think it did, this is probably someone he had a negligent discharge on.

Lol that's a first.

Now I have to go to p***hub and search for "negligent discharge".

 

[Ring 6]

you just proved my point for me. And the sad part is you don't seem to realize it.

The fact that women can lie is ample reason, on its own, to expect someone accusing a man of something this serious to be prepared to do so under oath, with the right to cross examine. If they're prepared to do that I'll start taking them seriously. I'd love to be wrong and have it turn out that all these women are prepared to do so.

But if that was the case, you'd think at least ONE of them would have obtained counsel independently. Remember, this isn't, or hasn't yet been filed as, a class-action suit. The fact that all of these accusers, all 24 and counting, went to one lawyer and one lawyer only, is unusual to say the least, especially if they were all already planning to make claims against Watson before Buzzbuddy entered the picture. There's plenty of lawyers looking to improve their image by taking sexual harassment claims either pro bono or on retainer. Why does the buzzy buzzy bee get to have all the fun in this matter?

Filing a suit exactly is showing you are willing to state your accusation under oath. Do you have any clue how the legal system works?

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Why don’t you care about the victims?
No one is stripping any rights from Watson.
The cases are going to go to trial. The claims have been filed with the courts and evidence will be presented at a trial.
Deshaun Watson’s rights fo not include that Simpleton knows the identity and detailed accusations of his accusers at whatever point she wishes to make a judgment on her computer.

It’s going to civil trial. They better ha ave solid evidence. A text saying are you ok from watson doesn’t mean squat.

 

[gobesmug]

And that text doesn't go into a lot of detail about what the incident was IIRC. although if the narrative follows the way I think it did, this is probably someone he had a negligent discharge on.

Again, why wouldn't he use a dedicated massage therapist instead of hitting up woman on Instagram for massages?

 

[Ring 6]

Bring out the evidence and STFU. None of it has been presented yet. No matter what happens people won’t look at watson the same anymore because of this even if he’s innocent because of these jane does. I wish men could face their accusers with their names out in the open.

The evidence will be brought out when it’s time to bring it out, in the trial.

Men used to be able to face their accusers out in the open. It was a great way to get away with rape because the victim was ashamed to be publicly dragged through the mud. I don’t think that’s really what you want.

 

[gobesmug]

It’s going to civil trial. They better ha ave solid evidence. A text saying are you ok from watson doesn’t mean squat.

Why is Watson hitting up Instagram for massages from many different woman instead of using a dedicated massage therapist that would give him a better massage?

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Evidence is logic.

Why would a multimillionaire who could get the best trained massage therapist, use Instagram to hit up athletic trainers for a groinal massage?

Go on defending a creep and victim shaming

You don’t think maybe some stuff was consensual? It’s hear say right now. Also let’s say maybe his thing touched her that doesn’t mean anything. Give me a break. I will wait till the facts are out.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

The evidence will be brought out when it’s time to bring it out, in the trial.

Men used to be able to face their accusers out in the open. It was a great way to get away with rape because the victim was ashamed to be publicly dragged through the mud. I don’t think that’s really what you want.

It’s civil. Texts better have some contexts. An apology doesn’t mean squat without some context. Watson’s attorney says he has evidence of a blackmail from one of the woman.

 

[gobesmug]

You don’t think maybe some stuff was consensual? It’s hear say right now. Also let’s say maybe his thing touched her that doesn’t mean anything. Give me a break. I will wait till the facts are out.

Never said some of them or maybe all were consensual.

I've only said that the guy was clearly paying for a massage with a happy ending. Which is illegal, so the claimants would be setting themselves up for some charges along with Watson if that is the case

 

[Ring 6]

Again, why wouldn't he use a dedicated massage therapist instead of hitting up woman on Instagram for massages?

And flying then in.

Let me put it this way.
Any man in the would answer this question.
You like to have massages.
You live in Houston
There must be thousands of masseuses in Houston. I would guess they charge about $100.
You go on Instagram and find a masseuse in Atlanta that you have never met
You decide you must have this masseuse instead of anyone in Houston or anywhere closer.
So instead of paying $100 for a massage you buy round trip tickets from Atlanta to Houston, reserve a hotel room and lay the masseuse whatever she would need to earn in order to give up an entire day.
So probably what? $2500.

Every man in the world can answer this. What reason would you choose to pay 2500 for a masseuse you’ve never met instead of 100 from a masseuse you’ve never met, or even one you’ve used before.
Every man in the world would be lying if he didn’t say for sex.