Player Signing Cam newton resigned 1 year deal

[mgcolby]

Surely this means a young QB via the draft...preferably a trade up for one. And this is um just veteran presence in the QB room???

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

I don’t think we’re done at qb, give it till at least the draft

 

[Scotty]

Some of these comments would make BB hair stand on end which is maybe why he had it cut (albeit for a good cause)

 

[Froob]

as another poster pointed out, if cam hit the $14mil mark, wouldn't that mean that we probably won a bunch of games and made a deep, deep playoff run, with solid QB stats?

something tells me i would be pretty happy if we ended up paying Cam $14mil for 2021

It looks like Cam is likely to make 6M. Really not bad.

 

[Midship]

Because Cam signed a low value one year deal and not a market rate longer deal for a starting QB.

Which is exactly what he signed last year (albeit under different circumstances, I'll give you that). I'm preparing myself for 16 games of Cam if healthy. Nothing that has transpired with this team over the last year makes me expect otherwise.

 

[yukon cornelius]

It looks like Cam is likely to make 6M. Really not bad.

5th or 6th highest paid backup off last year's salaries......when you're looking to mentor a young QB, serve as a possible bridge until ready, that's fair money

 

[DW Toys]

Joining a brand new team at the end of June is tough, certainly for a QB.

Cousins,
Just a quick square of blueberry cake heated for breakfast and orange juice with a mug of hazelnut coffee.
O,k, Newton would not have been my first choice:



O.K. this guy night be a zero!!!! Or Cam might be a legacy!

What Ross says is true. Look at where and when he started.

Cam:
Look at the crap surrounding him at TE and WR.
I brought this out once before. In Cam's best MVP year he had a stud TE in Olsen 2015 he had 7 TDs, 77 receptions and over 1,100 yards.
Our starting WRs plus our starting TE had a combined 119 receptions for 923 yards and .......1 TD. Our "starters' averaged 7.7 yards per catch. Olsen was double at 14.2 yards per catch. This is a pure WTF situation ....and again 1 TD.

Cam needs a shiny brand new pair of TEs to start this off better. Yes.... sign Hunter Henry, Rudolph or trade for Ertz ASAP. Njoku? He was the best pass blocking TE last year according to PFF and his catches equated to first downs 77% of the time. He was misused in Cleveland. A running Team like ours rely on TE play.

Was Newton blameless? No, but not that culpable. Turf Darts is a different sport.

Again, I am not a Newton Fanboy, but I see a blueprint here.

Mariota:
Mariota might still be the guy. Remember his health through the years has been at issue.
Unless cut, Mariots will cost us trade wampum
In 6 years he has only 61 starts. He's only started 63% of the time.
In Tenn. he was benched. as part of those missed games.
His last "starting" year at Tenn. He had 11 TD's and 9 INT's in 14 games. Or....one less INT than Cam.
Mariots has a career 29 win and 32 loss (losing) record to Cam's 75 and 63 record
With his full incentives, Mariota will cost $15mm compared to Cam's full incentives of $14mm
A third Team "O" system in three years is not a postive

Jimmie G:
Jimmie G will cost us even higher value wampum (picks)
In seven years of NFL service , he has only 32 starts (I did not know that although his starts behind Brady are included) In ten years Cam has started 139 games.
In his career Jimmie G has had 7, 4th Quarter Comebacks and 7 Game Winning Drives. Cam has had 16 4QCB and 20 GWD
Jimmie G's salary is $24mm in 2021 and $24mm in 2022 or........$10mm more than an incentive laden Cam contract if maxed out.
Jimmie G and Cam know our system so that evens out

O.K. now who?

Teddy?
He was 15TDs and 11 INTs with a receiving corp twice as good.
Teddy had 5 TD's rushing and Newton had 12 so they both had 20 TDs accounted for in 2020. Bridgewater's CAP hit in 2021 is $21mm.

Alex Smith? Like him alot but like Fitzpatrick, long in the tooth.

Brissett? Knows the system but is not starter quality.

Stidham????

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THIS CHANGES THE DRAFT:
Not a Cam Fan but as the infamous "bridge", I see the Pats looking at Lance or Fields over Mac Jones in this Draft because the prior two can run the system Josh sets up for Cam. A lot of RPOs in our future. This is a copy cat league. Running QBs are now in vogue.

Compare Cam to media darling Lamar Jackson who would be classified as a top 10 QB. Cam had the exact same amount of completions with less of receivers talent (Jackson had a great TE with 7 TDs) and Cam had 12 TDs rushing compared to 7 TDs for Jackson rushing. Jackson threw one less pick.

Thoughts? Don't hurt my feelings.

DW Toys

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Do we officially know how much of the 7.5 he made last year?

 

[DaBruinz]

It looks like Cam is likely to make 6M. Really not bad.

link?

 

[Ring 6]

I'm guessing you never watched a family member slip away from dementia, otherwise you wouldn't be making such a callous post

Jesus.

 

[luuked]

How about we wait at the very least until the second week of camp before we start melting down.

By then we will have a much clearer picture of the top portion of the roster, the draft, more data points about how Cam looked in OTAs (if there are any) and through the first couple camp sessions and can actually talk about reality instead of fearing our own imagination. Who knows.. maybe by then Cam is not even on the roster anymore.

Hell, I would already be amazed if we could hold it together until after the draft.

 

[PaulThePat]

Can't really comment on this move until we see what the NEXT QB move is i.e. I'd hope this is only Step 1 of a several step plan.

 

[ashley]

Why is it even remotely hard to believe? Did you watch last season and hear Bill's vehement, relentless defense of Cam despite his atrocious play on the field?

So you didn't like the Bethel signing or the Trent Brown trade? Cam is not counting a lot against the Cap, free agency hasn't begun yet, can we at least see who is our quarter backs are when the season starts? I don't mean to pick on you, but whenever I read your posts, it's always negative, negative, negative......stop it, please!!!

 

[Froob]

link?

My bad, read it wrong, I think 8M is the floor. Little pricey, but not awful

 

[Brotherblues]

Any details out on the contract? Can't go through 29 pages of this thread so, sorry if it's been mentioned. I mostly want to know the expected cap hit. And also what it'd cost capwise if they end up cutting him (i.e. a rookie beats him out for the starting gig).

 

[Ring 6]

the obvious diagnosis is that the OP is a whiny c#$t, but i'm no doctor

So you are happy with Cam Newton and another lost season while squandering 70 million of cap space?
Not liking that it being whiny? GFY

 

[yukon cornelius]

Cousins,
Just a quick square of blueberry cake heated for breakfast and orange juice with a mug of hazelnut coffee.
O,k, Newton would not have been my first choice:



O.K. this guy night be a zero!!!! Or Cam might be a legacy!

What Ross says is true. Look at where and when he started.

Cam:
Look at the crap surrounding him at TE and WR.
I brought this out once before. In Cam's best MVP year he had a stud TE in Olsen 2015 he had 7 TDs, 77 receptions and over 1,100 yards.
Our starting WRs plus our starting TE had a combined 119 receptions for 923 yards and .......1 TD. Our "starters' averaged 7.7 yards per catch. Olsen was double at 14.2 yards per catch. This is a pure WTF situation ....and again 1 TD.

Cam needs a shiny brand new pair of TEs to start this off better. Yes.... sign Hunter Henry, Rudolph or trade for Ertz ASAP. Njoku? He was the best pass blocking TE last year according to PFF and his catches equated to first downs 77% of the time. He was misused in Cleveland. A running Team like ours rely on TE play.

Was Newton blameless? No, but not that culpable. Turf Darts is a different sport.

Again, I am not a Newton Fanboy, but I see a blueprint here.

Mariota:
Mariota might still be the guy. Remember his health through the years has been at issue.
Unless cut, Mariots will cost us trade wampum
In 6 years he has only 61 starts. He's only started 63% of the time.
In Tenn. he was benched. as part of those missed games.
His last "starting" year at Tenn. He had 11 TD's and 9 INT's in 14 games. Or....one less INT than Cam.
Mariots has a career 29 win and 32 loss (losing) record to Cam's 75 and 63 record
With his full incentives, Mariota will cost $15mm compared to Cam's full incentives of $14mm
A third Team "O" system in three years is not a postive

Jimmie G:
Jimmie G will cost us even higher value wampum (picks)
In seven years of NFL service , he has only 32 starts (I did not know that although his starts behind Brady are included) In ten years Cam has started 139 games.
In his career Jimmie G has had 7, 4th Quarter Comebacks and 7 Game Winning Drives. Cam has had 16 4QCB and 20 GWD
Jimmie G's salary is $24mm in 2021 and $24mm in 2022 or........$10mm more than an incentive laden Cam contract if maxed out.
Jimmie G and Cam know our system so that evens out

O.K. now who?

Teddy?
He was 15TDs and 11 INTs with a receiving corp twice as good Teddy had 5 TD's rushing and Newton had 12 so they both had 20 TDs accounted for in 2020. Bridgewater's CAP hit in 2021 is $21mm.

Alex Smith? Like him but like Fitzpatrick, long in the tooth.

Brissett? Knows the system but is not starter quality.

Stidham????

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THIS CHANGES THE DRAFT:
Not a Cam Fan but as the infamous "bridge", I see the Pats looking at Lance or Fields over Mac Jones in this Draft because the prior two can run the system Josh sets up for Cam. A lot of RPOs in our future. This is a copy cat league. Running QBs are now in vogue.

Compare Cam to media darling Lamar Jackson who would be classified as a top 10 QB. Cam had the exact same amount of completions with less of receivers talent (Jackson had a great TE with 7 TDs) and Cam had 12 TDs rushing compared to 7 TDs for Jackson rushing. Jackson threw one less pick.

Thoughts? Don't hurt my feelings.

DW Toys

I'd add Mond into that mix, as he is similar in style/fit to the other two you mentioned, and his stock seems to be rising......but agreed on rest

 

[scout]

This is 100% a fireable offense if Cam is the starter at QB. He can't throw a football period and you bring him back after that abomination of a 2020 season?

Perfect example "of what have you done for me lately".

 

[Brotherblues]

My bad, read it wrong, I think 8M is the floor. Little pricey, but not awful

That looks like 8 guaranteed. Which is horrible.

 

[Schmo]

For a rookie QB to succeed, he will need weapons in place to hit the ground running. To have the best shot at landing high end WRs and TEs, we need a respectable and solid QB on the roster before FA starts. While he is far from being respected on this forum, Cam is still respected around the league. $8-14 million is a reasonable price tag for the position we're in.

Best case scenario? No. I would have rather traded a 7th round pick for Patrick Mahomes and then restructured his deal for 15 years at $3 million per year, with team options for the last 14 years.... but sometimes you have to be realistic.

Who knew that rebounding from losing the GOAT would be an imperfect and frustrating process? The team will be loaded in a lot of areas and WILL make the playoffs this year.