Player Signing Trent Brown trade to Pats

[RobertWeathers]

Nobody cares about Pats teams from the Bible Times

Whats Armstrong, Rucci, Wolabaugh, Roberts and Lane? Bronze Age?

 

[Horace's Ivories]

Man.. Trent Brown is Nephilim big..

 

[ashley]

We all want to keep Thuney but the 2021 cap space used by the OL is up there.

Brown- $11m
Shaq- $9.5m
Cannon- $9.6m
Owenu- Peanuts

Thuney would be big money.

My gut tells me Andrews is a $5m AAV guy but not sure what that NEP will want to commit in terms of a signing bonus/guarantees.

If we cut Cannon( 9.6m) and decide not to sign Andrews( 6m) vs signing Thuney(15m) I would sign Thuney all day long!!

I'm just thinking of Thuney/Owenu/Mason in the middle of the line and I start salivating.

 

[NormZauchin]

At 6'9" Brown makes a big target at tight end.

 

[Triumph]

There is ZERO guarantee you get a 3rd for Thuney. ZERO. All it takes is one signing of a UFA and a 3rd comp for Thuney is gone.

Not that cut and dry.

Cam is a FA. He could very well land somewhere and play for 1 year money. James White, Burkhead, Guy, Simon, Wise could all be gone.

 

[RobertWeathers]

If we cut Cannon( 9.6m) and decide not to sign Andrews( 6m) vs signing Thuney(15m) I would sign Thuney all day long!!

I'm just thinking of Thuney/Owenu/Mason in the middle of the line and I start salivating.

If we figure Thuney is $15m of cap space in 2021, at a minimum thats ~$35m in cap space for 3 guys on the o-line total.

Maybe Bill does that but I dunno.

What do you think about using the cap space to trade for Elandon Roberts?

 

[Uptown]

If we cut Cannon( 9.6m) and decide not to sign Andrews( 6m) vs signing Thuney(15m) I would sign Thuney all day long!!

I'm just thinking of Thuney/Owenu/Mason in the middle of the line and I start salivating.

Are you sure it’s the OL you’re salivating over? Or are you having T/O/M Brady nostalgia?

 

[ashley]

If we figure Thuney is $15m of cap space in 2021, at a minimum thats ~$35m in cap space for 3 guys on the o-line total.

Maybe Bill does that but I dunno.

What do you think about using the cap space to trade for Elandon Roberts?

RW, I was having a girl moment thinking of Owenu/Thuney/Mason in the middle of our line and then you had to ruin it by bringing up E. Roberts. lol

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Size is not Wynn's problem with LT and you are at least just as likely to get hurt playing OG.....I just look at the unit and think the most effectove approach will be from left to right Brown,Wynn,Andrews,Mason,Onwenu .... subject to change if Andrews doesn't return...I would just dump Cannon and give most of that money to Andrews

I agree completely with this OLine lineup.

Brown - Wynn - Andrews - Mason - Onwenu.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

In 11 games, Brown allowed one sack in 326 pass-blocking snaps, according to Pro Football Focus.

Trent Brown has consistently graded as an ELITE pass blocker but not a great run blocker. Which makes sense then that he played left tackle with the Patriots and won a championship. Some of the posters here think they're smarter than Scar which is just hilarious. Trent Brown's ideal spot is LT and we need to solidify this position as Wynn is completely unreliable as a starting left tackle.

 

[Ring 6]

We all want to keep Thuney but the 2021 cap space used by the OL is up there.

Brown- $11m
Shaq- $9.5m
Cannon- $9.6m
Owenu- Peanuts

Thuney would be big money.

My gut tells me Andrews is a $5m AAV guy but not sure what that NEP will want to commit in terms of a signing bonus/guarantees.

I can’t imagine cannon stays around at that number.

 

[Ring 6]

Trent Brown has consistently graded as an ELITE pass blocker but not a great run blocker. Which makes sense that he played left tackle with the Patriots and won a championship. Some of the posters here think they're smarter than Scar which is just hilarious. Trent Brown's ideal spot is LT and we need to solidify this position as Wynn is completely unreliable as a starting left tackle.

If Wynn is healthy Wynn is best at LT, Brown is best at RT and onwenu is best at G.
You don’t move players out of their best position because you might have an injury.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

If Wynn is healthy Wynn is best at LT, Brown is best at RT and onwenu is best at G.
You don’t move players out of their best position because you might have an injury.

Wynn is not best at LT. I don't even know if we should keep Wynn after his contract expires. Wynn is on the hot seat. Our best players at their BEST proven positions are Trent Brown at left tackle and Michael Onwenu at right tackle. Those are the only 2 certainties. Wynn is so injury prone you don't plan your OLine around the most injury prone player who missed 70% of his games so far. Start with the most certain things which is Trent Brown plays great left tackle as a Patriot and won a ring doing so, and Onwenu is already one of the league's best right tackles. Wynn is on the outside looking in, let's see if he can stay healthy at left guard.

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[Hades]

I'm not sure why so many want to move Wynn when he is the best LT on the team.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

I'm not sure why so many want to move Wynn when he is the best LT on the team.

Wynn isn't the best LT, he's only played in 18 of 48 games. He's probably not our long term solution, I don't even know if we should keep him after his rookie contract. He's 6'2 and too small. Our best LT is Trent Brown who played a full season of elite LT with the Patriots including winning championship as a starting left tackle.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Article below, Trent Brown was the worst graded RT in terms of % of negative run blocks. Trent Brown is an elite elite pass blocker and a mediocre run blocker. Sounds like a left tackle. Part of the reason why a genius coach like Scar put Trent Brown at Left Tackle and we won a ring with Trent Brown as left tackle.

Trent Brown set to return to right tackle in his first year with the Oakland Raiders

Shortly after signing him to a record-setting contract, the Oakland Raiders announced that they would be playing Trent Brown at right tackle, bucking the trend of playing a big-money tackle on the left side.

www.pff.com

 

[Ring 6]

Not that cut and dry.

Cam is a FA. He could very well land somewhere and play for 1 year money. James White, Burkhead, Guy, Simon, Wise could all be gone.

They don’t balance out 60 mill of cap room.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Article below, Trent Brown was the worst graded RT in terms of % of negative run blocks. Trent Brown is an elite elite pass blocker and a mediocre run blocker. Sounds like a left tackle. Part of the reason why a genius coach like Scar put Trent Brown at Left Tackle and we won a ring with Trent Brown as left tackle.

Trent Brown set to return to right tackle in his first year with the Oakland Raiders

Shortly after signing him to a record-setting contract, the Oakland Raiders announced that they would be playing Trent Brown at right tackle, bucking the trend of playing a big-money tackle on the left side.

www.pff.com

...and while it took some sorting out, the NEP acquired him in 2018 to be their swing T but clearly took to LT like a fish to water.

Are they acquiring him this time to be their RT? I don't think so.

 

[Ring 6]

Wynn is not best at LT. I don't even know if we should keep Wynn after his contract expires. Wynn is on the hot seat. Our best players at their BEST proven positions are Trent Brown at left tackle and Michael Onwenu at right tackle. Those are the only 2 certainties. Wynn is so injury prone you don't plan your OLine around the most injury prone player who missed 70% of his games so far. Start with the most certain things which is Trent Brown plays great left tackle as a Patriot and won a ring doing so, and Onwenu is already one of the league's best right tackles. Wynn is on the outside looking in, let's see if he can stay healthy at left guard.

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After that monstrosity of a post i see there is no point is going further because you simply have no knowledge on the topic.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

...and while it took some sorting out, the NEP acquired him in 2018 to be their swing T but clearly took to LT like a fish to water.

Are they acquiring him this time to be their RT? I don't think so.

Exactly. Some are so hung up on their prior bias including only thinking of Onwenu as a guard. Looking at actual success in the Patriot system, our best and most stable choices are Trent Brown at LT and Michael Onwenu at RT. People are getting hung up on Wynn's draft position or whatever but you don't build your OLine around a super injury prone guy who is unreliable to go a whole season.