PatsFans has never been more divided. It’s time to heal!

[Mike the Brit]

FYI, I'm the only poster who won arguments against both @andy johnson and @Ring 6 .

Oh, winning the argument is the easy part: having "them" concede that you've won, on the other hand ...

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Please don't ever give up Tywin

 

[Steve102]

Please don't ever give up Tywin

you know, it's funny, I was discussing with @Ian giving up on Tywin and Arya and getting something more current. My problem is I love the "The North remembers" thing, and Tywin is a bad mf'er. Not unlike @KontradictioN and his affinity for Walter White.

 

[Kontradiction]

you know, it's funny, I was discussing with @Ian giving up on Tywin and Arya and getting something more current. My problem is I love the "The North remembers" thing, and Tywin is a bad mf'er. Not unlike @KontradictioN and his affinity for Walter White.

A guy opens his door and gets shot. You think that of me?

 

[1960Pats]

Just off the top of my head, I'm thinking of Young, Paige, Gibson, Grove, Johnson(Walter).

Okay, I decided to go back and check something I had checked many years ago. I took the top 16 pitchers and compared them all in where they rank all-time in WL% and ERA as well as Hits/9, SOs/9, Walks/9 innings and homers allowed.
Pedros is still at the top...

	Player		ERA	WL%	H/9	SO/9	BB/9	HR	Total
1	Pedro	Martinez	6	1	3	2	7	5	24
2	Sandy	Koufax	2	4	2	4	14	4	30
3	Walter	Johnson	1	8	6	13	4	1	33
4	Tom	Seaver	4	7	5	8	9	12	45
5	Roger	Clemens	8	3	8	6	11	11	47
6	Bob	Gibson	5	11	7	7	13	6	49
7	Curt	Schilling	14	10	9	5	3	9	50
7	Randy	Johnson	11	5	4	1	15	14	50
9	Lefty	Grove	7	2	16	14	10	3	52
10	Nolan	Ryan	10	16	1	3	16	8	54
11	Cy	Young	16	6	14	16	1	2	55
11	Gaylord	Perry	3	12	11	11	5	13	55
13	Greg	Maddux	9	15	13	10	2	10	59
14	Bert	Blyleven	12	14	12	9	6	15	68
15	Phil	Niekro	13	13	15	12	12	7	72
16	Warren	Spahn	15	9	10	15	8	16	73

 

[Steve102]

A guy opens his door and gets shot. You think that of me?

 

[patsfanincleveland]

FYI, I'm the only poster who won arguments against both @andy johnson and @Ring 6 .

In that case, let Andy's agent set the market and go for more guaranteed money.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Okay, I decided to go back and check something I had checked many years ago. I took the top 16 pitchers and compared them all in where they rank all-time in WL% and ERA as well as Hits/9, SOs/9, Walks/9 innings and homers allowed.
Pedros is still at the top...

	Player		ERA	WL%	H/9	SO/9	BB/9	HR	Total
1	Pedro	Martinez	6	1	3	2	7	5	24
2	Sandy	Koufax	2	4	2	4	14	4	30
3	Walter	Johnson	1	8	6	13	4	1	33
4	Tom	Seaver	4	7	5	8	9	12	45
5	Roger	Clemens	8	3	8	6	11	11	47
6	Bob	Gibson	5	11	7	7	13	6	49
7	Curt	Schilling	14	10	9	5	3	9	50
7	Randy	Johnson	11	5	4	1	15	14	50
9	Lefty	Grove	7	2	16	14	10	3	52
10	Nolan	Ryan	10	16	1	3	16	8	54
11	Cy	Young	16	6	14	16	1	2	55
11	Gaylord	Perry	3	12	11	11	5	13	55
13	Greg	Maddux	9	15	13	10	2	10	59
14	Bert	Blyleven	12	14	12	9	6	15	68
15	Phil	Niekro	13	13	15	12	12	7	72
16	Warren	Spahn	15	9	10	15	8	16	73

Wow!!!

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Oh my you know, it's funny, I was discussing with @Ian giving up on Tywin and Arya and getting something more current. My problem is I love the "The North remembers" thing, and Tywin is a bad mf'er. Not unlike @KontradictioN and his affinity for Walter White.

 

[Biffins]

No division during the PatsFans.com holiday, you two! We are coming TOGETHER.

Yes, let's come together!!

Let's all support Bucs till BB fixes this mess.

 

[jmt57]

Let's all support Bucs

Would you like a cookie?

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

 

[Wax Frog]

@dikembe

A repost, but it never gets old...

 

[1960Pats]

Wow!!!

I only compared him to 15 other pitchers but I think I had all who are in the discussion, except for Paige who has no stats in MLB.
#2 Koufax was hurt by walks per 9 innings.
#3 Walter Johnson was hurt by less SOs.
#4 Seaver gave up too many HRs.
#5 Clemens gave up too many walks and HRs.
#6 Gibson was hurt by his W/L record and walks.
#7 was a surprise, seeing Curt Schilling tied with Randy Johnson.
Nolan Ryan took a hit because I didn't have his walks per 9 innings but he wasn't going to catch Pedro anyway.

 

[ashley]

Yes, let's come together!!

Let's all support Bucs till BB fixes this mess.

Please go and join their board then.

 

[Triumph]

We cant have unity and Brady.

One has to go and my vote is Brady.

 

[maust]

FYI, I'm the only poster who won arguments against both @andy johnson and @Ring 6 .

forgotten me already?

I knew there was a reason I always liked Thumby2046 better

 

[Tony2046]

forgotten me already?

I knew there was a reason I always liked Thumby2046 better

He's definitely the smarter one of the two.

 

[Tony2046]

Please go and join their board then.

 

[PatsWSB47]

e v e n s l o w e rrrrrrr

p u t t h e m i n t h e b r a d y f o r u m

why should anyone have to ignore a thread just because you want it in the main forum?

and me trying to force others to do what I want them to do? How so? By wanting them to click one extra link? That's a big stretch there slick... seriously, whats the point of having a Brady forum if you don't use it for, i dunno, BRADY threads?

Jesus, just look past the threads that dont interest you. It's the off season. The site gets a lot more traffic I think with some Brady stuff here than if it was on another forum. You seem to take it personally.