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Do you think less of Greg Popovich after Tim Duncan retired ?
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hell, i like him better now
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Yep. Pats can take their first big step forward on the path back in 2021. Hopefully.
Hi all.
Brady vs. Bill seems to be a controversial topic here. Some insist it is a "thing," while others say it shouldn't even be discussed because nobody is even looking at things that way.
As an out-of-towner non-Pats fan, I can say that it definitely is a thing. I and many others have kept an eye on the developments of both Brady and the Pats this year, as it has always been known that there has been an unspoken "rivalry" between those two gentlemen. People have always wondered who was really responsible for the two-decade string of success the Pats have had. And I think this season we have been given the answer. Each's track record without the other seems to speak for itself. Many insist that Bill is a genius, but it is probably much easier to look like a genius when you have the all time GOAT holding down the most important position in sports for 20 years.
All I can do at this point is acknowledge Brady is the man. 10 Super Bowl appearances and counting. Mind blowing!
Brady vs. Bill seems to be a controversial topic here. Some insist it is a "thing," while others say it shouldn't even be discussed because nobody is even looking at things that way.
One year is not enough time to make an assessment. Case Keenum was an MVP candidate one year.
People act like Belichick started coaching in 2000. He didn't. He was the mastermind behind the Giants SB Defenses. The Patriots were 5-11 in 1995 before Belichick showed up. With him we won the division and ended up going to a Super Bowl in '96. He and Parcells instantly turned around the Jets. In New England, he took a team with not much talent to a Super Bowl victory in 2001. That was all Belichick.
Before Brady came into his own in 2003, Belichick was the major force behind 3 Super Bowl victories, and 4 Super Bowls.
Brady deserves as much and even more credit than BB. So give Brady 60% of it if you want, though it's impossible to quantify.
What fans from other teams consistently underrate is how unbelievable the Patriot run was. 8 out of 9 CGs in the last 9 years of BB/Brady. 5 CG victories. 3 SB victories. And that totally ignores the previous decade when they went to 4 SBs, won 3, 5 CGs. Neither Brady nor Belichick achieve this without one another.
one could easily make the argument he was more vital to Parcells success as a HC than Parcells was himself.......
Bill Russell made Red Auerbach . So clearly logic doesnt apply here eitherIt's not controversial.
We have an entitled fan base which is mad at Bill for starting a rebuild job because they can't handle going 7-9 when it was this very kind of shrewdness which built the dynasty and benched Bledsoe in the first place
Not sure your post fits my point but whatever.Bill Russell made Red Auerbach . So clearly logic doesnt apply here either
Well I mean sarcastically, its as silly as saying russell was way more important than auerbach going all these debates about bill vs brady,Not sure your post fits my point but whatever.
Sorry man. Missed that.Well I mean sarcastically, its as silly as saying russell was way more important than auerbach going all these debates about bill vs brady,
BB just needs to sit with Peter King and pour his heart out and appear in a few radio shows and give 1-1 to curran etc. All this narrative will change.One year is not enough time to make an assessment. Case Keenum was an MVP candidate one year.
People act like Belichick started coaching in 2000. He didn't. He was the mastermind behind the Giants SB Defenses. He took Cleveland to the playoffs n his 3rd year but he next year ended in disaster when Art Modell kneecapped him and the team by announcing the move to Baltimore in the middle of the season. The Patriots were 5-11 in 1995 before Belichick showed up. With him we won the division and ended up going to a Super Bowl in '96. He and Parcells instantly turned around the Jets. In New England, he took a team with not much talent to a Super Bowl victory in 2001. That was all Belichick.
Before Brady came into his own in 2003, Belichick was the major force behind 3 Super Bowl victories, and 4 Super Bowls.
Brady deserves as much and even more credit than BB. So give Brady 60% of it if you want, though it's impossible to quantify.
What fans from other teams consistently underrate is how unbelievable the Patriot run was. 8 out of 9 CGs in the last 9 years of BB/Brady. 5 CG victories. 3 SB victories. And that totally ignores the previous decade when they went to 4 SBs, won 3, 5 CGs. Neither Brady nor Belichick achieve this without one another.
belichick is the GOAT of coaching. Brady is the GOAT of the sports.
put those 2 together we have the GOAT of the GOAT.
Get a room.I love Robert Weathers. He understands.
Bill has been able to put a good defense on the field for the Pats. Not so much for the offense without Brady.One year is not enough time to make an assessment. Case Keenum was an MVP candidate one year.
People act like Belichick started coaching in 2000. He didn't. He was the mastermind behind the Giants SB Defenses. He took Cleveland to the playoffs n his 3rd year but he next year ended in disaster when Art Modell kneecapped him and the team by announcing the move to Baltimore in the middle of the season. The Patriots were 5-11 in 1995 before Belichick showed up. With him we won the division and ended up going to a Super Bowl in '96. He and Parcells instantly turned around the Jets. In New England, he took a team with not much talent to a Super Bowl victory in 2001. That was all Belichick.
Before Brady came into his own in 2003, Belichick was the major force behind 3 Super Bowl victories, and 4 Super Bowls.
Brady deserves as much and even more credit than BB. So give Brady 60% of it if you want, though it's impossible to quantify.
What fans from other teams consistently underrate is how unbelievable the Patriot run was. 8 out of 9 CGs in the last 9 years of BB/Brady. 5 CG victories. 3 SB victories. And that totally ignores the previous decade when they went to 4 SBs, won 3, 5 CGs. Neither Brady nor Belichick achieve this without one another.