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DRAFT BGC 2021 Pre-Draft/Patriot-Type Prospect(s) thread



Sounds like a PTP 3rd/4th rounder ala Flowers/Wise. Sure that people will find reason to hate him and claim he's over-drafted if the Patriots take in him in the 3rd/4th round..
 
@BaconGrundleCandy when you say Am'Ron has "r/r", what do you mean by that?

I can follow most of the abbreviations but that one threw me.
 
@BaconGrundleCandy when you say Am'Ron has "r/r", what do you mean by that?

I can follow most of the abbreviations but that one threw me.

I always read it as route runner/route running, because its basically almost exclusively used to describe WR/TE abilities for this specific area...

"XY is great r/r, can creat separation yaddayadda"
"XZ has refined r/r even though can't create a ton of separation yaddayadda"
 
Read & React, possibly.
i always thought route runner but thanks for clearing that up, i see now mine makes not much sense

Edit: sorry masterbouncer i did not read yours before sending mine
 
I do think it was an experiment of sorts. That's why I think Lance is an option if he's available at 8 (Det) or 15. We should be on the phone with Detroit if he is (2022 1st & 2nd)

Find his Daboll, Roman etc Sit him for the year and build the team up. Lance has his flaws but upside is as good as anyone in the class not named Lawrence. This is why I'm losing my mind with the Jones pick. Don't people know what a first round guy looks like? If I'm spending a first it's not on a guy with limited upside, you know needs a lot to succeed ... Vs Lance, a guy with a multidimensional skill set, big ceiling, enormous arm and size.
Thanks sir exactly what i think. Anytime i read the name jimmy g or stafford trade i don't feel like this would be a good move. It would require a high pick and lots of money which we need to surround them with weapons cause as you mentioned they need a good team. Picking lance for example would of course require a high pick and probably a trade up, but why would i choose a qb like stafford or jimmy g when i know they are not qb's who can actively bring you to the PO without a good team. I know these rookies might need to sit for a year and learn but for example lance looks like a higher ceiling and of cours we can't know if he can be that franchise qb, but why would i use picks for a vet qb with unjury history where i know he is not that type of qb we need.
also one of the most annoying things of our offense is that the defnese always seems to know what we are doing. So a dualthreat qb should help here, taking of a little bit pressure on skill positions and open the playbook.

Edit: A trade up for spot 9 did cost me our first second and 2022 second rd. pick. That is in reality probably higher isn'it
At 46 I'd go Toney, Marshall, R Moore, St. Brown or possibly Michael Carter. That would give a legit offensive piece to put a dent in the rebuild.

Toney is a human joystick (believe I actually mentioned that to kontra 2 years ago)
Marshall could be our slot.
Moore do-it-all into slot/Z.
Brown is a great r/r, sudden plays a little bigger than size.
Carter is a great complement to Harris. I would envision a 12-18 touch share between them if we're playing bully ball with Lance.

Who knows in the third, would have to see the names on the board, we could go any position tbh. I'd be very happy with those first two selections though.
Moore would be insane. in the chiefs game we saw what speed on offense can change with the right calls and play designs
 
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Such a complete back. Also if I was a prospect I would never listen to NFL draft board. Notorious for being conservative.








Would love to get Najee 2nd rd or lower if we were lucky enough to have that happen. Doubtful, but hey. I know we are all excited about Damien, but he has yet to have a healthy season. Add in Michels issues, loss of Burksy, and if we let White go, a guy like Harris could change our Offense.
 
@BaconGrundleCandy when you say Am'Ron has "r/r", what do you mean by that?

I can follow most of the abbreviations but that one threw me.
Route running/route runner, I get a little lazy sometimes. @masterbouncer just yaddayadda me like Seinfeld.
I always read it as route runner/route running, because its basically almost exclusively used to describe WR/TE abilities for this specific area...

"XY is great r/r, can creat separation yaddayadda"
"XZ has refined r/r even though can't create a ton of separation yaddayadda"
 
I always read it as route runner/route running, because its basically almost exclusively used to describe WR/TE abilities for this specific area...

"XY is great r/r, can creat separation yaddayadda"
"XZ has refined r/r even though can't create a ton of separation yaddayadda"
i always thought route runner but thanks for clearing that up, i see now mine makes not much sense

Edit: sorry masterbouncer i did not read yours before sending mine
MB is correct here I believe...Route-Running makes more sense when considering the context.
 
Route running/route runner, I get a little lazy sometimes. @masterbouncer just yaddayadda me like Seinfeld.
apologies, wasn't meant to disrespect your (very much appreciated) in depth informationon on the prospects, just wanted to shorten my explanation of;)

love reading your content and appreciate your input to this board
 
Chris Olave is returning to ohio state
Like ETN last year I don't see the upside. I doubt he plays himself into a better position. I'm a little confused here bc prospects will go back when they're given a 3rd round grade from the draft board. I can't imagine him lasting that long or moving up much. Seems like a borderline 1st round pick but mostly likely in the 25-60 range this year or next. Not worth the injury but who knows? OSU has Ruckert, both tackles coming back and Olave. They could be playing for a natty but passing on the NFL is always a big gamble for guys like him.
 
apologies, wasn't meant to disrespect your (very much appreciated) in depth informationon on the prospects, just wanted to shorten my explanation of;)

love reading your content and appreciate your input to this board
lol I'm just joking around man no disrespect taken
 


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