Cam expected to start on MNF

[Toofy]

If he doesn't believe in Stidham, how is starting him in the team's best interest? If the goal is for him to be cut he has enough info. If the plan is for him to be a back up, he's been a back up and Bill has enough info.

I meant get any other JAG Qb if cam is not the guy not stidham , why continue with someone who is not the answer. You could have cut stidham and put Rosen behind cam if stidham is so bad.

Keeping a backup and not playing him when your qb is even more worse than the other team backups baffles me. And stidham did not look worse than cam in limited snaps .

 

[denverpatsfan]

Looking forward to watching Cam play on my 4 year old phone using the Yahoo app. Fun Times!

 

[sb1]

I meant get any other JAG Qb if cam is not the guy not stidham , why continue with someone who is not the answer. You could have cut stidham and put Rosen behind cam if stidham is so bad.

Keeping a backup and not playing him when your qb is even more worse than the other team backups baffles me. And stidham did not look worse than cam in limited snaps .

Pats shouldn’t be looking for JAGs they should be trying to find their next starter. It’s not as easy as the Stid fans think it is.

 

[lancerman]

I meant get any other JAG Qb if cam is not the guy not stidham , why continue with someone who is not the answer. You could have cut stidham and put Rosen behind cam if stidham is so bad.

Keeping a backup and not playing him when your qb is even more worse than the other team backups baffles me. And stidham did not look worse than cam in limited snaps .

Why would he spend the money? Do you know how much another JAG in Brissett cost last year for the Colts? If he doesn't think there's a meaningful difference why would he. Rosen has failed everywhere and isn't even getting shots on teams that are desperate so he's going to bring a guy just a year older than Stidham with no track record and sign him for probably more money?

Either way Stidham, a JAG, whoever it's a waste of time.

 

[Patsgofor4]

If he doesn't believe in Stidham, how is starting him in the team's best interest? If the goal is for him to be cut he has enough info. If the plan is for him to be a back up, he's been a back up and Bill has enough info.

I’ve never played NFL QB but I suspect that there is a difference between coming into a game cold with your team down 14+ points, after taking few practice reps is different than knowing that you are going to be the starter early in the week and then taking most, if not all, of the reps with the first team offense. Stidham has been a pick machine but I’d still like to see how he performs in the latter scenario.

The arm is there and he has athletic ability (someone here referred to him as “immobile”, which is an absurd exaggeration). If the instincts and the ability to read defenses isn’t there, let’s find out for sure sooner rather than later. If he defecates on himself over the last two games, the Pats draft pick improves, which I’m fine with.

On the other hand, it makes zero sense to me to start Cam and his frozen shoulder. If some players don’t like it, that’s on them. Based upon the performances of Cam and the offense during the second half of the season, Bill would have been justified if he made the change weeks ago.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I'm going with the theory that Bill does not think Stidham has earned the QB1 job.

Earned means a lot of things.

There might be a little respect being thrown Cam's way. I agree with that.

In interviews BB did not say, "Cam is our QB" like he did the previous week, so starting Stidham was discussed. BB did not have to check with his coaches to see if Stidham had earned the right, he would have known that. I think it is something else.

Rosen, Darnold and Wentz all seem ruined by being thrown into the fire too quickly. My guess is BB is easing Stidham in. Stidham looked nervous in mop up duty to me, so they are being cautious is my guess. It is MNF, bright lights, etc.

 

[Toofy]

In interviews BB did not say, "Cam is our QB" like he did the previous week, so starting Stidham was discussed. BB did not have to check with his coaches to see if Stidham had earned the right, he would have known that. I think it is something else.

Rosen, Darnold and Wentz all seem ruined by being thrown into the fire too quickly. My guess is BB is easing Stidham in. Stidham looked nervous in mop up duty to me, so they are being cautious is my guess. It is MNF, bright lights, etc.

I wish I could share your optimism .. it just looks like stidham is not the guy and we will not have a chance to see what he can do in a full game.

If he is so mentally fragile and cannot play when there are no major stakes , how do we expect him to lead us next season. I just think he and cam will both be cut next season and probably we sign teddy Bridgewater or Andy Dalton as bridge and hedge on Qb for 2022 which is supposed to be a deep draft class as well.maybe trade 2021 second for 2022 first.

 

[Ian]

Cam expected to start Monday night.

In a related story, Patriots expected to only score 3 points in first half.

Hope you're right. One other interesting note, I don't believe they've scored a single point in the first quarter at Gillette all season. Would be nice if that changes this week.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

There's gotta be something behind the scenes we don't see. I don't buy into the fact that they don't want to throw Stid to the wolves with the lack of talent at WR and TE. If I had to made an uneducated guess, he's not grasping something. He's careless with reads, not doing the film study, not working on ... something.

All his teammates say Stidham works very hard. Gunner said they would meet at 6AM to get in extra practice. I think Gunner works hard, and if Stidham is alongside him, I doubt it is a "not a hard worker" or "not earned the opportunity" reason.

 

[RobertWeathers]

In interviews BB did not say, "Cam is our QB" like he did the previous week, so starting Stidham was discussed. BB did not have to check with his coaches to see if Stidham had earned the right, he would have known that. I think it is something else.

Rosen, Darnold and Wentz all seem ruined by being thrown into the fire too quickly. My guess is BB is easing Stidham in. Stidham looked nervous in mop up duty to me, so they are being cautious is my guess. It is MNF, bright lights, etc.

I thought about that (slow rolling his elevation to Qb1)

Possible I guess but if there is a time/year to put the kid in a low-pressure situation, it's now.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I wish I could share your optimism .. it just looks like stidham is not the guy and we will not have a chance to see what he can do in a full game.

If he is so mentally fragile and cannot play when there are no major stakes , how do we expect him to lead us next season. I just think he and cam will both be cut next season and probably we sign teddy Bridgewater or Andy Dalton as bridge and hedge on Qb for 2022 which is supposed to be a deep draft class as well.maybe trade 2021 second for 2022 first.

You might be right. I think Stidham works hard, has a good attitude, etc., from his teammates comments. So I am at a loss for the actual reason.

Starting week 17 against the JETE and then going through OTAs, training camp, might be the best way to build his confidence and finish his training. The Bills game is meaningless if they want to shield Stidham one last time.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I thought about that (slow rolling his elevation to Qb1)

Possible I guess but if there is a time/year to put the kid in a low-pressure situation, it's now.

I am trying to shoe horn my theory into the evidence. It is MNF, national audience, if Stidham is starting it would be a national story with ESPN interviews, etc. Starting on MNF against the Bills is MUCH bigger than starting week 17 against the 1-14 JETE. No reason to have MNF being his first start. Does not really matter if he plays 1 or 2 games in 2020.

It will be a very simple explanation which this is.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I am trying to shoe horn my theory into the evidence. It is MNF, national audience, if Stidham is starting it would be a national story with ESPN interviews, etc. Starting on MNF against the Bills is MUCH bigger than starting week 17 against the 1-14 JETE. No reason to have MNF being his first start. Does not really matter if he plays 1 or 2 games in 2020.

It will be a very simple explanation which this is.

It's certainly a reasonable theory.

If that is what BB is doing, it tells us how remarkable Tom's appearance Week 2 in 2001 was (and/or how desperate BB was)

 

[captain stone]

That’s only because Stidham hasn’t played yet or he would be above Cam on this list. . I guess some people can’t wait to see how his 51 passer rating, 54% completion rate, 6 YPA, 10% int rate plays out in the NFL over 16 games. Hard pass from me.

How about for just two games?

This.... playing cam makes no sense. Could have claimed any other qb and started in place of cam if stid is not the guy. Play the QB roulette and see if we get lucky.


Sticking on with cam baffles me. Only thing I could think of is there is a verbal agreement and Bill wants a 8-8 season and feels cam is the best bet.

I don't think what Bill is doing right now is in teams interest. Another less than .5 win season next year and no answers at qb and we would be royally screwed . 4 - 5 years of playoff drought.

This is where I am too...Billy's doing somebody a solid instead of doing what's best for the t-e-a-m team...And there's absolutely no doubt that he covets a non-losing season more than we do, and still feels that Cant gives him the best chance of attaining that.

Meyers proved himself when he got the chance. I’m not convinced he’s special just yet but he proved he is worth keeping around.

Stidham didn’t. He was demoted from QB1 to 3 entering the season. Wasn’t even good enough to finish ahead of Hoyer. Nuff said.

Hasn't Stid been the backup since Cant's return from the Wu?

 

[captain stone]

Pats shouldn’t be looking for JAGs they should be trying to find their next starter. It’s not as easy as the Stid fans think it is.

Nobody here is a "Stid fan."

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Cam expected to start Monday night.

In a related story, Patriots expected to only score 3 points in first half.

3 against the Bills D? not bad, cant wait!

 

[lancerman]

I’ve never played NFL QB but I suspect that there is a difference between coming into a game cold with your team down 14+ points, after taking few practice reps is different than knowing that you are going to be the starter early in the week and then taking most, if not all, of the reps with the first team offense. Stidham has been a pick machine but I’d still like to see how he performs in the latter scenario.

The arm is there and he has athletic ability (someone here referred to him as “immobile”, which is an absurd exaggeration). If the instincts and the ability to read defenses isn’t there, let’s find out for sure sooner rather than later. If he defecates on himself over the last two games, the Pats draft pick improves, which I’m fine with.

On the other hand, it makes zero sense to me to start Cam and his frozen shoulder. If some players don’t like it, that’s on them. Based upon the performances of Cam and the offense during the second half of the season, Bill would have been justified if he made the change weeks ago.

Again, if Bill already has seen enough in practice and in what little game experience to say "yeah this guy will never be a starter", then why would he ever make him a starter. Cam is up and down, but at least he helps your run game. Stidham won't do that and he's been as bad or worse than Stidham. I think the problem is alot of people are still pinning hopes on Stidham to avoid the fact that we actually need to go out and find a QB in the wilderness of the NFL

 

[Conflicted Panthers fan]

The Pats are historically bad at WR and TE. Two out of the top three WRs would be on most NFL team’s practice squads, if that. There isn’t a TE on the roster anyone could pick out of a lineup. There’s not a QB in the league that would have a winning record with these “skill” players.

All things considered, there’s really no way to truly evaluate anyone at QB with who they are asked to throw to. So what’s the risk of putting Stidham out there? Well for one you could completely ruin whatever confidence he has forever, say if he goes out there and throws four interceptions and gets stripped sacked all game. At least Newton is a veteran that can run the power running game Belichick wants.

 

[Kdo5]

Asinine. There is obviously some agreement between Belichick & Cam behind the scenes.

I thought Bill did what was best for the football team. Is that out the window now?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

So you think Rosen would stay on Miami’s practice squad instead of signing a contract to be in the 53 nan roster of the QBtarded patriots? Why?

My point is that it is his choice, not theirs.

I think it would have been 50-50 if they asked. He signed with SF this week.