OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[Biffins]

AB to debut

 

[Lagaffe_07]

AB to debut

He is still suspended. He can only return against the saints on week 9 at the quickest.

 

[PP2]

He is still suspended. He can only return against the saints on week 9 at the quickest.

Although his suspension "officially" ends after week 8, he is already with the team and can participate in team meetings and workouts. He can start practicing with the team after the MNF game.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Although his suspension "officially" ends after week 8, he is already with the team and can participate in team meetings and workouts. He can start practicing with the team after the MNF game.

did that change recently? Because if I remember correctly, for example, in the case of Brady and Jules suspensions, they could only return to the facility after the end of their suspensions.

 

[PatsBoy12]

AB to debut

I don't think he's eligible until week 9, right?

 

[amfootball]

I have to say that all these reporters like Peter King piling on to the Patriots are ridiculous. Brady didn't leave here because he thought the situation was hopeless.

He left because he had invested himself in the franchise so much and was not rewarded with what he wanted most: a deal that would assure he would keep playing as long as he wanted. It's that simple.

Peter King is late to the game. We know there was big disappointment for Brady after the contract negotiation in 2018. He put up his house for sale, for heaven's sake, a house he intended to live in for the rest of his life. He was leaving precisely because he didn't want to be jettisoned at the age of 44 after a bad season. It wasn't because of a lack of weapons. It was because of a lack of trust.

I agree but I have to admit I find King's take delicious on so many levels. So it was Brady that left Bill - "I saw it in his eyes after the Tenn loss. He was dispirited." I mean so silly but the piling on Bill is non-stop right now. I guess King wanted in on the action.

 

[Tottie]

King's a hack and piling on BB is hot garbage. Whoever said the shark's are out is right. They've been waiting a long time for this.

 

[lancerman]

I never said chit. If I said anything, I said we'd be together forever. From my armchair, he was the one that didn't want to be here. Him and that goddam Gronk. So, yes, I definitely said if you don't want to be here, get out, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Doesn't change the fact that I am sitting here with a guy more worried about his stupid hats than winning football games.

Well then your arm chair is wrong. Brady wanted a commitment with a multi year contract and when he kept getting told no, he created a way out. So it’s really like your wife just had your 3 kids and she wanted to create a joint bank account and add hers to yours and move all her old stuff at her parents into the house and you said “hey listen babe let’s just keep it easy in case something happens”. So she said okay and asked if she could go out late with the girls more and you thought “sure not like she will find any better”. Then she found a less successful guy who was promising a commitment that was ironclad and she said “hey honey, I think I’m going to roll with this guy, good thing we kept things easy so this separation wouldn’t be complicated lol”

Point is Brady spelled out what he wanted and we said no and then he asked for a way out.

 

[1960Pats]

King's a hack and piling on BB is hot garbage. Whoever said the shark's are out is right. They've been waiting a long time for this.

Peter King is on my media hit list. I try not to read anything from him. Here's my complete alphabetical list. If anyone knows of any additions or subtractions let me know...

Troy	Aikman
Skip	Bayless
Jerome	Bettis
Kevin	Blackstone
Ron	Borges
Bert	Breer
Mark	Brunell
Chris	Carter
Ryan	Clark
Chris	Collinsworth
Colin	Cowherd
Brian	Dawkins
Neil	DeGrasse-Tyson
Gregg	Doyel
Marshall	Faulk
Mike	Felger
Bob	George
Bob	Glauber
Jay	Glazer
Mike	Golic
Roger	Goodell
Mike	Greenberg
Ryan	Grigson
Charles	Haley
Tim	Hasslebeck
Bart	Hubbuch
Jim	Irsay
Tom	Jackson
Ted	Johnson
Bomani	Jones
Dan	Kannell
Max	Kellerman
Naqi	Kelly
Peter	King
Bob	Kravitz
Matt	Lauer
Ronnie	Lott
Jackie	MacMullen
George	Martin
Tony	Mazzerotti
Donovan	McNabb
Al	Michaels
Kurt	Minihane
Joe	Montana
Chris	Mortensen
Bill	Nye
Ian	O'Connor
Rosie	O'Donnell
Jason	Page
Woody	Paige
Rob	Parker
Bill	Plaschke
Bill	Polian
Jerry	Rice
Al	Roker
Bob	Ryan
Shannon	Sharpe
Don	Shula
Chris	Simms
Phil	Simms
Stephen A	Smith
Gary	Tanguay
John	Tomase
Mike	Tomlin
Brian	Urlacher
Ben	Volin
Hines	Ward
Kurt	Warner
Mike	Whilbon
Seth	Wickersham
Nick	Wright

 

[PatsBoy12]

 

[Brandon_Cox]

That TD throw to Miller was about 45-50 yards in the air and, as the announcer said at the time, it was like he dropped the ball into a 5 gallon bucket. Millers catch radius isn't so big, the DB was right there, and it was a window about a foot wide and a foot deep. Once of his best deep throws in years

According to one of the nerd sites, it was in the air for 55.5 yards. One of his all time great throws.


Both of those years he won the MVP

 

[captain stone]

All of which will mean nothing. Kraft is too smart to be looking to dump a coach who just brought him a 20 year period of sustained excellence.

Then why wasn't he smart enough not to allow his GM/HC to dump the QB who just brought both of them a 20-year period of sustained excellence?

 

[catent]

The pretzels that some people are twisting themselves into to disparage the greatest player to ever play in New England is just insane and disappointing.

Yes, agreed.

Equally as insane and disappointing are the pretzels some people are twisting themselves into to disparage the greatest coach to ever coach in New England.

 

[203Pat]

Yes, agreed.

Equally as insane and disappointing are the pretzels some people are twisting themselves into to disparage the greatest coach to ever coach in New England.

I haven't seen much disparaging of Bill. I think people have rightly called out his horrific drafting as of late but aside from that he seems to be getting a pass compared to Brady.

 

[PatsBoy12]

I haven't seen much disparaging of Bill. I think people have rightly called out his horrific drafting as of late but aside from that he seems to be getting a pass compared to Brady.

I agree. There's been faaar more Brady bashing going on, if for no other reason than the fact that BB is the one who is still here. It's stupid either way.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

 

[sb1]

Peyton Manning takes shots at Tom Brady over pass to Gronk, fourth down confusion

Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady threw a pass to tight end Rob Gronkowski that appeared to find Gronk between three Green Bay defenders and drew praise as a great pass on the game broadcast.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

I don’t see any “shots”. Florio with the clickbait headline and embellished take here as usual.

Fivehead does sound a bit jealous I think. Lol

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Peyton Manning takes shots at Tom Brady over pass to Gronk, fourth down confusion

Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady threw a pass to tight end Rob Gronkowski that appeared to find Gronk between three Green Bay defenders and drew praise as a great pass on the game broadcast.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

I don’t see any “shots”. Florio with the clickbait headline and embellished take here as usual.

Fivehead does sound a bit jealous I think. Lol

For a long time Florio had gotten his act together, and he was my favorite commenter/reporter.

I think his site (and internet advertising revenue) has declined a lot, so now he's back to being a **** stirring hack again. He has become a shill for the league, for one, teaming up with suck-ass league mouthpiece Peter King and dumb-ass hot take artist Chris Simms.

So many of his opinions have become either propaganda or click-bait. It's a shame; he was one of the few voices of reason during Deflategate.

 

[catent]

I haven't seen much disparaging of Bill. I think people have rightly called out his horrific drafting as of late but aside from that he seems to be getting a pass compared to Brady.

Totally disagree, the scales are basically balanced, people see what they want to here.

There are a large number of people who support Brady. There are a decent number who have speculated about his play, but haven't been disparaging. There are a few who are disparaging.

There are plenty of people who have been sh*tting all over BB for his drafting (perhaps rightfully so), yet many of them cross the line of reasonable discussion into irrational disparagement. It's been the case forever, anytime the team has a poor game, BB's drafting is trash, so on, so forth. This season is different but there has always been those who disparage BB on this forum and it's not a new thing this year.

I agree. There's been faaar more Brady bashing going on, if for no other reason than the fact that BB is the one who is still here. It's stupid either way.

Everyone sees what's around them. If you spend a large proportion of your time in this TB thread relative to other threads on the site, you're going to see more discussion about Brady than BB. I can assure you BB is getting disparaged and irrational bashed by multiple folks across this forum.

 

[PP2]

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