OBJ Rumor...

[fightingirish595]

He’s small. Feel like he’s not as fast as he was when he came out. Still think he’s the ultimate me guy.
But I wanted to part of brown and got pissed when he got cut

 

[203Pat]

First it was Randy Moss. Then Oucho Sinko, next Josh Gordon. There was no way that AB was not going to be in a Pats uniform even if it was for a week. He even traveled to Boston by airplane instead of his hot air balloon saving 8 days of travel.

It only stands to reason that OBJ will be a Patriot.

Give us your malcontent WRs. Your drug addicted drama queens. The Attention whores who are happy for about 6 months until the honeymoon is over and the bickering and fighting begins.

I'm dying. This line killed me lol

 

[Triumph]

And the truth he left because BB was not going to pay him the money he wanted.

Brady has never been about money.

If he was Brady could have asked to be the highest paid QB of all time demanding a contract that nobody would ever top.

 

[Ghost_Rush02]

Brady has never been about money.

If he was Brady could have asked to be the highest paid QB of all time demanding a contract that nobody would ever top.

he wasnt....it was now (well last year) he wanted to be paid what he deserved (that's why he didn't want the franchise tag in his last contract). Which made sense, but BB was not going to pay a 43 year QB 20-25-30 mill.

 

[203Pat]

he wasnt....it was now (well last year) he wanted to be paid what he deserved. Which made sense, but BB was not going to pay a 43 year QB 25-20 mill.

So far he looks deserving. On pace for over 4,100 yards (about 100 more than last year), 37 passing TD's (13 more than last year), and has a 4% higher completion rate so far. He is in a three way tie for the 10th heights paid QB so it looks to me like Tampa is getting a bargain.

 

[Ross12]

I would definitely take him and I think it makes sense. He's not as good as he once was but he's still better than anyone we have... he has a pre-existing relationship with Cam, they'd obviously gel. I think the current group but adding OBJ on top makes the WRs decent. TE is still meh but the rookies need more time. I am not clear offhand what his salary would be after a trade.

 

[luuked]

I would definitely take him and I think it makes sense. He's not as good as he once was but he's still better than anyone we have... he has a pre-existing relationship with Cam, they'd obviously gel. I think the current group but adding OBJ on top makes the WRs decent. TE is still meh but the rookies need more time. I am not clear offhand what his salary would be after a trade.

To me he still has the potential to be a real WR1, especially if McDaniels gets to use him. His presence would create space for everyone else and transform the offense. The only question is why the Browns would give up on him at this point in time especially because they are not one of the teams that will be in a cap crunch due to COVID.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Brady has never been about money.

If he was Brady could have asked to be the highest paid QB of all time demanding a contract that nobody would ever top.

The idea that Tom doesn't care about money is nonsense. He has his TB12 business, which he ain't exactly doing for charity, charging 80 bucks for a bottle of vitamins. Not only that, he just signed a contract with Fanatics for his autographed memorabilia, which runs for on average $2500 for each item on their website. He took less money with NE because of these type of side earnings and his wife's income.

 

[Ghost_Rush02]

The difference with TB here and TB in Tampa....wide outs and TEs. Nothing productive here compared to Tampa Bay. That's why i laughed my a** off everytime the national media or other teams fans said he was done after last season.....

 

[sambam94]

The difference with TB here and TB in Tampa....wide outs and TEs. Nothing productive here compared to Tampa Bay. That's why i laughed my a** off everytime the national media or other teams fans said he was done after last season.....

agreed, the offensive weapons the last 2 tears are nothing more than disgusting.

 

[Ross12]

To me he still has the potential to be a real WR1, especially if McDaniels gets to use him. His presence would create space for everyone else and transform the offense. The only question is why the Browns would give up on him at this point in time especially because they are not one of the teams that will be in a cap crunch due to COVID.

Perhaps it's them simply not wanting him at his salary. They could potentially want to go into next year with a large amount of cap space in order to go crazy with FAs in a year that other teams won't be able to spend as freely... Who knows.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

he wasnt....it was now (well last year) he wanted to be paid what he deserved (that's why he didn't want the franchise tag in his last contract). Which made sense, but BB was not going to pay a 43 year QB 20-25-30 mill.

Belichick wouldn't pay $20M (about 50% off of top market) right now for a guy on pace for 37 TDs and 11 INTs? I guess he either needs to reevaluate his age-enhanced projection of the player or reevaluate the quarterback market.

But we know what you're saying is absolute bologna. Tom Brady never dug in his heels and demanded a market contract...not with New England, Tampa Bay, or anywhere. He did what he always does, which is avoid the games of chicken and just settle on a number which seems reasonable though is not as much as he could get if he dug in. He's not going to play for pennies on the dollar, and he's not going to let the final 10% of the contract become a giant distraction and hindrance to signing. He even stated this earlier in the offseason, that this is his approach to contracts.

It was all about commitment with more years, guarantees, etc. so he could have long-term security to retire in New England instead of going year-to-year, and he was palpably upset that it had come as far as it did, the eve of free agency, when the Patriots had years to extend him.

And attitude absolutely plays into negotiations; Tampa Bay showed excitement about him and projected him as part of their long-term plans instead of treating him like an "agonizing question mark" who was going to be swept out the door with the only question of when. The Patriots could not have been more hands-off and passive in asking Brady to come back to them to see if they might be willing to match an offer. He had a bunch of teams telling him how badly they want him and selling him on their brand and how he will fit into their future with his post-40 goals - and one team who made it really, really clear that they had the bigger **** and were absolutely willing to let him walk away if he didn't like what they were serving.

Tough choice.

 

[Hyped]

OBJ is going to have a cap # of ~15M the next 3 seasons (2020-2022). While that is a "bargain" compared to other elite WR deals recently signed...and it will be a better bargain in the next two seasons..... I am not sure OBJ is the elite guy he once was in NY. But I remember him burning Butler for a big TD a few years ago...that was impressive.

If the coaching staff thinks he will help, sign me up...but like others have alluded to...why would the Browns do this? Landry has broken ribs...ditto for MAyfield...and they are 4-2 despite that and Chubbs being out. The Browns have something to play for....

 

[DaBruinz]

he wasnt....it was now (well last year) he wanted to be paid what he deserved (that's why he didn't want the franchise tag in his last contract). Which made sense, but BB was not going to pay a 43 year QB 20-25-30 mill.

Brady wanted a guaranteed contract. He didn't want to go year to year. That's why he left. Also, Tom really didn't do himself any favors in terms of how he was treating receivers other than Edelman, White, and Gronk. And even White wasn't getting passes thrown to him last year despite being wide open on several glaring occasions.

 

[Ring 6]

So far he looks deserving. On pace for over 4,100 yards (about 100 more than last year), 37 passing TD's (13 more than last year), and has a 4% higher completion rate so far. He is in a three way tie for the 10th heights paid QB so it looks to me like Tampa is getting a bargain.

It’s not really the level of play on the next 6 games that drives the decision, it’s the ability to stay healthy and at that level over a long season and into the playoffs. He dropped off precipitously in the second half of last year which absolutely is a harbinger of the future. At 43 it’s a big gamble that this future isn’t upon us or imminent and the chance if staying healthy at 43 and beyond is shaky.
It’s smart to stay on one year deals in that case. Brady didn’t care about the money, he cared about picking his own date of when he is done. If Tampa commits to 2 years he gets to play 2 years. While going through that it seemed to become obvious that brady had grown tired of the atmosphere in NE where it was about team and individuals take a back seat. He decided to end his career on a place where he thinks he can persuade them not to replace him when he slips and where the atmosphere is more fun than focussed.

 

[luuked]

Belichick wouldn't pay $20M (about 50% off of top market) right now for a guy on pace for 37 TDs and 11 INTs?

Except he wouldn't have been on pace for those numbers here in this offense. He'd be much closer to last year's numbers except against a harder schedule and the overall defense taking one step back with the numbers of players we lost.

Also lets keep in mind what the cap situation looked like back in March.. before we had several players opt out, got some AB money back and so on.. to afford Brady at 25m we would have had to sacrifice even more pieces in the secondary (i.e. most likely DMac + JMac).

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Except he wouldn't have been on pace for those numbers here in this offense. He'd be much closer to last year's numbers except against a harder schedule and the overall defense taking one step back with the numbers of players we lost.

Nope.

I took your time machine. Sorry - should have asked but you were passed out in a gutter outside, and the keys were right there. I went back to February, made sure that Brady re-signed with the team, and he is currently on pace for 37 TDs and 11 INTs in New England, in this paradoxical reality.

Probably should have also gone to Wuhan to warn about Covid and all, but I felt that proving this point was more important. And I don't regret it.

 

[Tottie]

he wasnt....it was now (well last year) he wanted to be paid what he deserved (that's why he didn't want the franchise tag in his last contract). Which made sense, but BB was not going to pay a 43 year QB 20-25-30 mill.

Belichick wouldn't pay $20M (about 50% off of top market) right now for a guy on pace for 37 TDs and 11 INTs? I guess he either needs to reevaluate his age-enhanced projection of the player or reevaluate the quarterback market.

But we know what you're saying is absolute bologna. Tom Brady never dug in his heels and demanded a market contract...not with New England, Tampa Bay, or anywhere. He did what he always does, which is avoid the games of chicken and just settle on a number which seems reasonable though is not as much as he could get if he dug in. He's not going to play for pennies on the dollar, and he's not going to let the final 10% of the contract become a giant distraction and hindrance to signing. He even stated this earlier in the offseason, that this is his approach to contracts.

It was all about commitment with more years, guarantees, etc. so he could have long-term security to retire in New England instead of going year-to-year, and he was palpably upset that it had come as far as it did, the eve of free agency, when the Patriots had years to extend him.

And attitude absolutely plays into negotiations; Tampa Bay showed excitement about him and projected him as part of their long-term plans instead of treating him like an "agonizing question mark" who was going to be swept out the door with the only question of when. The Patriots could not have been more hands-off and passive in asking Brady to come back to them to see if they might be willing to match an offer. He had a bunch of teams telling him how badly they want him and selling him on their brand and how he will fit into their future with his post-40 goals - and one team who made it really, really clear that they had the bigger **** and were absolutely willing to let him walk away if he didn't like what they were serving.

Tough choice.

I was going to reply but didn't have the energy. By now the people that are so off base on what happened are either new guys showing up or guys who will never change their mind. I'm bitter now watching him play knowing that we built the secondary that can wipe the smile off KC's face and we don't have an offense to help. It's not just about Brady of course...lost of missing pieces at this point. We should of held firm on AB with the league. We should of been more accommodating with Gronk or given Dola 4m. Most of all Josh needed to be gone yesterday and if we would of fired him and talked like men with Brady he would of stayed and we could of made KC cry some more. Also, **** the Ravens.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Oh great, another thread that has become a full fledged Brady discussion...

 

[Tottie]

Oh great, another thread that has become a full fledged Brady discussion...

Sorry. Back on subject! I'm a solid 'no' on OBJ! Do you even have the kinds of brothels that he requires in your area? Dude has needs.