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OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread


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Packer defender is lucky. What a dime.
 
Cracks me up, of all the things that Brady could have gotten bad at, it’s that quick swing out throw. He had Gronk open for the TD and just missed him.

Brady’s still looking pretty good otherwise..... Less consistent than his prime, but still a top 5 QB in the league.
 
38-10. This is a demolition.
 
Don’t let Kraft’s general public persona fool you. Contract negotiations with Brady have always been between Kraft and BB. To a certain extent Kraft has let BB play the bad cop role to his good cop, but the point is they’re generally in this together. If Kraft didn’t see eye to eye with BB on salary commitment issues, he would never have hired him to begin with. That was one of the things that really struck Kraft about BB when he fit’s got to know him.

Kraft was hesitant to give Brady guaranteed big money at his age. Not just Belichick, but Kraft.

well either way it was silly. That big a deal doing a 2 yr contract instead of 1 year? It was stupid.
 
While I love Brady I have to be honest, when I look at that Bucs team and which players I'd want most to improve this version of the Patriots, I'd go for Lavonte David and one of Goodwin/Evans.

The 2 players we need from that team are Brady and Gronk.

You know, the only 2 players to be the greatest ever to play their positions.
 
Brady is obviously not as good as he was in 2016/17 anymore when he was playing as well as any QB has ever had in this league. Take off the homer glasses. The difference is only that he now has better weapons to work with. Let him work with what Cam Newton was working with today and he'd have looked as helpless as he did at times last year.

When we said that last year (that Brady’s offensive supporting cast was pathetic) everyone said Brady was just old and declining.
 
Belichick could use a superstar QB rn. Wonder where he could get one? Feel like.....its hazy but it might be coming to me. Tom.... B-Br.. *signs Fitzpatrick in 2021 to save cap*
 
In that case, he should have given up on Cam Newton in 2017.

$500k/year for a former MVP comes into play and he likes his comeback projects. Also, he wasn’t already playing for this team. Pretty big difference all around.
 
So BB f'ed by not offering brady the money or not surrounding him with weapons ? Because under our cap situation i dont think both wouldve worked. They might have given brady 2yr 50 mil but would be okay working without gronk, an ageing edelman and a some rookie wideouts? breaking the bank on on side of the ball ha snever been the pats philosophy, for better or worse. Again, if josh gordon and antonio brown had stayed with the pats all season last yr who knows how things turn out. instead in the middle of the season brady is working with meyers and harry and all . This inspite of the fact he knew last yr beginning was his last in NE.

How is 1yr $23m affordable but 2yr $50m breaks the bank. The math doesn’t work. The debate was on how fast Brady fades and whether we screw ourselves for 2021 not 2020.

Bottomline: if we could have afforded Brady for 1yr $23m then we could have afford him for 2yr $50m. We just didn’t want him.

And we were wrong. Fck BB and fck Kraft.
 
I think that posters thinking the 2020 NE Patriots would be winning the SB w Brady and Gronk are a bit much.

First, it was rebuild time in NE. Secondly, Brady & Gronk - despite being the greatest at their positions - aren’t quite as consistant as they once were. This week it’s amazing, last week not so much. Their 2020 versions are fine. But not nearly enough to push NE into SB contention.
 
How is 1yr $23m affordable but 2yr $50m breaks the bank. The math doesn’t work. The debate was on how fast Brady fades and whether we screw ourselves for 2021 not 2020.

Bottomline: if we could have afforded Brady for 1yr $23m then we could have afford him for 2yr $50m. We just didn’t want him.

And we were wrong. Fck BB and fck Kraft.

I hope Brady wins MVP and SB MVP.
 
It’s interesting to watch New England and Tampa back to back.

They are such opposites. Tampa has a **** ton of talent and is oozing with young talent...great front 7, not great secondary, great skill players. New England is bleeding out from barren drafts...not great front 7, great secondary, ****ty skill players. Tampa so undisciplined and New England so disciplined. Belichick the best coach in the league and Arians among the worst.
Bucs would go 19-0 if BB was their coach
 
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