OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

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[PatsBoy12]

Spread moved from Bucs -7 on Sunday all the way to Bucs -3.5

Did Not Practice
Mike Evans
Chris Godwin
Scotty Miller
Justin Watson
OJ Howard (IR)

That is literally their top 5 pass catchers. Not sure I have seen a rash of injuries to one group like this before.

Time for new Gronk to be old Gronk?

 

[PatsBoy12]

Gronkaneers have to beat someone good for people to take them seriously. Packers at home. Beat them. Their run defense is very stout but their pass defense has to get better.

Can't the same exact thing be said about our very own team?

 

[Deus Irae]

Even as familiarity still grows and there remains an enormous amount of room for improvement, the Brady effects become more and more evident (I say this before the team faces Chicago, which could make this post end up looking really bad):

 

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[sb1]

Can't the same exact thing be said about our very own team?

Id say the difference is the Bucs are a win now team with their window open and the Patriots are not.

 

[PatsBoy12]

Id say the difference is the Bucs are a win now team with their window open and the Patriots are not.

Huh? I'm sorry, but I see no reason for that to have any bearing on the conversation being had here. By his argument (and others), NE has also not beaten anyone and lost to two contenders THIS season. Please elaborate because maybe I'm missing something.

 

[sb1]

Huh? I'm sorry, but I see no reason for that to have any bearing on the conversation being had here. By his argument (and others), NE has also not beaten anyone and lost to two contenders THIS season. Please elaborate because maybe I'm missing something.

Then no offense but you’re bringing up a whataboutism. It’s a fact that the Bucs have played a relatively light schedule so far. That has zip to do with the Patriots.

 

[PatsBoy12]

Then no offense but you’re bringing up a whataboutism. It’s a fact that the Bucs have played a relatively light schedule so far. That has zip to do with the Patriots.

Respect, no doubt. Of course that's what I'm doing and this thread is littered with such, including from/by you, sb1. This happens on message boards all the time. Regardless, you still haven't told me why you think it's so valid to ask about one team and not another just because one, as you say, is in win now mode. Why does that matter in this context?

Mind you, I think it's a dumb argument to have at the quarter mark of the season, just to be clear. I'm more pointing out the hypocrisy of sports fans.

 

[Deus Irae]

The Patriots starting QB is on a one year, super low money deal that's not getting repeated next year. So , with the possible exception of the New Orleans Saints, there is no team in the NFL that's more "Win now, because of the window" than the New England Patriots.

 

[TBR]

This guy near exclusively analyzes OL performance and 3 of his best 5 so far this year are Bucs.

 

[Tony2046]

This guy near exclusively analyzes OL performance and 3 of his best 5 so far this year are Bucs.

I'm a firm believer that the game is won in the trenches.

 

[JMC00]

I don't know, if those guys are out for the Bucs, combined with the Bears pass defense

#9 YPG
#1 completion percentage allowed
#4 YPA
t#1 Passing TD allowed
#3 Passer Rating


Might be a tough night

 

[amfootball]

I don't know, if those guys are out for the Bucs, combined with the Bears pass defense

#9 YPG
#1 completion percentage allowed
#4 YPA
t#1 Passing TD allowed
#3 Passer Rating


Might be a tough night

Will be tough. Good thing the Bears offense is pretty inept. Probably a low scoring game. Brady will be ready. We will see how ready Arians has the team overall on the short week, on the road. Big test early in the season.

 

[upstater1]

This guy near exclusively analyzes OL performance and 3 of his best 5 so far this year are Bucs.

Been saying for years that Brady moving around the pocket and getting the ball out quick makes his OL look really good.

We've had talented players there over the years, but even washed up ALL Pros like Brian Waters came to New England and they looked great.

We forget the guys we picked up off the scrap heap and turned into solid starters, order the guys drafted after the 4th round. But there are so many of them: Joe Andruzzi, Grant Williams, Mike Compton, Tom Ashworth, Dan Koppen, Steve Neal, Dan Connolly, Ryan Wendell, David Andrews.

For sure, we expended some draft capital on players like Matt Light, Logan Mankins, Sebastain Vollmer, Nate Solder... but mostly we grabbed those UDFAs, or never played college football before, and plugged them into the line.

 

[Tottie]

Been saying for years that Brady moving around the pocket and getting the ball out quick makes his OL look really good.

We've had talented players there over the years, but even washed up ALL Pros like Brian Waters came to New England and they looked great.

We forget the guys we picked up off the scrap heap and turned into solid starters, order the guys drafted after the 4th round. But there are so many of them: Joe Andruzzi, Grant Williams, Mike Compton, Tom Ashworth, Dan Koppen, Steve Neal, Dan Connolly, Ryan Wendell, David Andrews.

For sure, we expended some draft capital on players like Matt Light, Logan Mankins, Sebastain Vollmer, Nate Solder... but mostly we grabbed those UDFAs, or never played college football before, and plugged them into the line.

I think there's definitely some truth to the QB making the line better and I wonder what it does to their conditioning over the course of a game. I would think every second of not clinching or holding down 300 pound players must help.

 

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