Sort of OT: MLB Covid outbreak- season might be in jeopardy

[NormZauchin]

The Jets and the Giants are lucky that the start of training camps and the season didn't coincide with the peaking of cases in NYC. I doubt that either would have been able to field a team.

 

[Kdo5]

I've been saying this constantly and what is happening with MLB just strengthens the point. Football will not be played.

 

[Joey007]

What kind of contingency covers half a team being wiped out in a day? In the NFL where every game has such incredible importance, what contingency covers Mahomes suddenly being take out by the virus? Or three quarters of an offensive line?

I really want there to be a season, but I've always been dubious that they'd get away with it.

It’s an unprecedented year for sure. But if Mahomes missed time that’s all part of how the dynamic has to work.

How big are baseballs rosters this year, minor league reserves included? I can’t imagine 12 players is half the squad all things considered.

It also sounds like this was negligence on the Marlins part, which would mean this could have likely been more largely avoided had they followed correct protocols.

 

[XLIX]

It also sounds like this was negligence on the Marlins part, which would mean this could have likely been more largely avoided had they followed correct protocols.

I really haven't been following the story that closely. What makes you think this happened because of negligence?

 

[Joey007]

I don’t think this direct incident will lead to the MLB shutting down the season. I think they stand to lose far too much to make that move yet. They’ll try to find solutions in any way they think possible.

Now if this happens to large portions of the league’s teams, that’s another story..

 

[Hyped]

BTW, if the season is cancelled....do we just start up where we left off with the 2020 schedule (e.g. playing the NFC West)? Or does the schedule move ahead and have us playing a different division (e.g. NFC South)?

Does anyone know? It'd be nice to not ever have to play against Brady in Gillette Stadium.....

 

[Joey007]

I really haven't been following the story that closely. What makes you think this happened because of negligence?

The initial positive tests may not have been, but it sounds like the additional positive tests were negligent. The main concern is having big outbreaks within team rosters.

 

[brdmaverick]

Honestly wondering, why is South Korea able to play baseball and Australia able to play full contact rugby but we may not be able to pull it off in the US?

Really curious, what are they doing differently that we should be (or vice versa)? Or is it something like 'climate differences' that make it more possible. I don't know.

 

[imahobgoblin]

Honestly wondering, why is South Korea able to play baseball and Australia able to play full contact rugby but we may not be able to pull it off in the US?

Really curious, what are they doing differently that we should be (or vice versa)? Or is it something like 'climate differences' that make it more possible. I don't know.

They are not going to the polls on November 3.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

BTW, if the season is cancelled....do we just start up where we left off with the 2020 schedule (e.g. playing the NFC West)? Or does the schedule move ahead and have us playing a different division (e.g. NFC South)?

I think that falls under "they'll decide if/when it happens."

 

[stephens44]

Millions of people are working across the country without fans in attendance, why can't the NFL.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Honestly wondering, why is South Korea able to play baseball and Australia able to play full contact rugby but we may not be able to pull it off in the US?

Really curious, what are they doing differently that we should be (or vice versa)? Or is it something like 'climate differences' that make it more possible. I don't know.

Speaking for South Korea, since I have close friends there...

Starting in February they geared up to fight this (vs. mid-March for us).

Arguably the best thing they did was universal mask wearing and social distancing. That was coupled with lots of testing and contact tracing at the early stages. All positives and those exposed to people testing positive went into strict isolation, installing a smartphone app and/or wearing a tracking bracelet so they could not leave their quarantine area (try that here, lol). Same for all people coming into the country- isolate, and be tracked.

Even healthy people in South Korea agreed to smartwatch monitoring for the first signs of fever.

Japan pretty much beat it without all of the testing, tracing, and tracking. They were champs at mask wearing and distancing. They didn't even shut businesses, in most areas.

I know there has been a lot of doubting even in this thread about mask wearing. The thing is, in an exponential growth situation, even a very small effect on reducing transmission can be huge for the population as a whole.

See the red line below. It models a situation where each infected person transmits to 3.1 others. That is called R-naught, the infectivity factor. Getting to the blue line, you need to reduce transmission by just 16%, from 3.1 to 2.6. Getting to the purple line, you need to reduce transmission by 39%, 3.1 to 1.9. That is a no pandemic situation.

Masks aren't 100% effective, but are they >16% effective if everybody wears them, even cloth ones? Probably yes. With good masks (S. Korea had an N95 stockpile!) and social distancing starting in February, we, like South Korea, could be on the purple line. But here in July, we have not yet been able to give it a good start.

 

[FCB02062]

Honestly wondering, why is South Korea able to play baseball and Australia able to play full contact rugby but we may not be able to pull it off in the US?

Really curious, what are they doing differently that we should be (or vice versa)? Or is it something like 'climate differences' that make it more possible. I don't know.

Because the Bad Orange Man isnt president in Korea

 

[Nunchucks]

Because the Bad Orange Man isnt president in Korea

This is true too. Lack of leadership is killing us, literally

 

[ctpatsfan77]

See the red line below. It models a situation where each infected person transmits to 3.1 others. That is called R-naught, the infectivity factor. Getting to the blue line, you need to reduce transmission by just 16%, from 3.1 to 2.6. Getting to the purple line, you need to reduce transmission by 39%, 3.1 to 1.9. That is a no pandemic situation.

An important point: R0 = 1.9 is not "no pandemic." It's just a slower pandemic. [Look closely: that line isn't a straight line; it's starting to curve up, just more slowly than the other lines.) To actually stop the pandemic, you need to get R0 < 1.0.

 

[Uptown]

Damn

 

[scout]

I don’t think this direct incident will lead to the MLB shutting down the season. I think they stand to lose far too much to make that move yet. They’ll try to find solutions in any way they think possible.

Now if this happens to large portions of the league’s teams, that’s another story..

The problem with next man up is when there are not any men left.

 

[raduray]

and you know what is worse? they are allowed to vote

Yeah, there's no way any of these pro leagues can play a full schedule in this country at this current time. The way the virus has been handled here, by the government/leadership and large segments of the population is nothing short of embarrassing. Think of how stupid the average
̶p̶e̶r̶s̶o̶n̶ American is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

Person, woman, man, camera, TV

 

[raduray]

Honestly wondering, why is South Korea able to play baseball and Australia able to play full contact rugby but we may not be able to pull it off in the US?

Really curious, what are they doing differently that we should be (or vice versa)? Or is it something like 'climate differences' that make it more possible. I don't know.

Person, woman, man, camera, TV

 

[raduray]

An important point: R0 = 1.9 is not "no pandemic." It's just a slower pandemic. [Look closely: that line isn't a straight line; it's starting to curve up, just more slowly than the other lines.) To actually stop the pandemic, you need to get R0 < 1.0.

Rt COVID-19