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[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Just a few initial thoughts after just hearing about this a few minutes ago, and not having the patience to read 13+ pages.

1. For the record, I wasn't very keen on signing Newton when the idea was first brought up a few months ago. I was willing to take a possible beating for a year to see if Stidham was the guy or not, and thought ANY veteran QB would take away valuable snaps from him in TC.

2. But that was before I saw how the contract was being presented. This has ZERO downside. I guess after about 4 months of not getting much interest, Newton decided his best option was to go to the Pats on a minimum contract plus incentives and look for a "patriots bump" that a lot players have seen after coming here.

3. I know this might ****** Stidham's development, but he's STILL just a baby and Jimmy sat behind Tom for 2 full seasons before he got his 5 quarters to sell himself in his 3rd season and didn't play more than 6 games until his 6th.

4. From what I've heard, Cam has not been guaranteed a starting job, so he knows he has to come in and WIN his position.

5. It will be important to see how Stidham reacts to this new development. He has gone from presumptive starter to having to fight for a starting job against a former league MVP. He has the advantage of a year in both the system, but more importantly with the language and terminology.

6. Further, the fact that he would put himself out there on a pure prove it deal, makes me think that Cam is SUPER motivated to prove that he can still be, not just a starter, but an elite QB in the NFL.

7. The guy has taken a horrid beating over the last few years, and his stats over the last 8 games put him at the bottom of the league's QB's. He might just be 31, but he's an old 31.

8. Who know's. Maybe what he needs is a year sitting behind Stidham to get himself healthy and work out his mechanics with one of the best QB coaches in the league. We shall see.

9. All I know now is that there are a lot of pissed off fans in NJ, Buffalo, and Miami.

Ken I firmly believe that the talent on this offensive line is going to be one of the best if not the best overall squad in Patriots history,I think 2 or 3 of these starters especially Thuney and Winn could have pro bowl years if healthy and this will help Newton big time

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

I hate this move! It makes absolutely zero sense! The guy can’t play. He was MVP the same reason than Lamar because of his running skills and now he is physically toasted and he can’t throw a football accurately. I don’t know what is the upside !

the plan was simple in my view. Play Stidham this year, if he plays well you have your QB, if not you have a high draft pick!

If we were smart we'd have Lamar (top 5 inside/outside the pocket QB) and his league leading passing TDs.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Perhaps the greatest play in NFL history ...

 

[thecore762]

 

[Zarozzor]

Someone post that Wolverine meme except he’s looking at a picture of Lawrence

 

[Uptown]

Yes! Love Studarm tho.

 

[Uptown]

He wrecks BB defenses, so he can’t be that bad..

 

[Uptown]

Can a healthy Cam Newton-led offense + the elite Pats secondary win 10 games against:

Jets x2
Dolphins x2
Bills x2
@ Seahawks
Raiders
@ Chiefs
Broncos
49ers
Ravens
@ Texans
Cardinals
@ Chargers
@ Rams

Yes.

 

[Uptown]

We got a recent former NFL MVP for bare minimum on an incentive-laden deal..

This is genius. Anyone who thinks otherwise is reacting off of pure emotion.

 

[Uptown]

Who’s next? Bo Nix

 

[Jlaff]

We were about $600k under the cap. Any word on other moves?

Yuck!

 

[luuked]

@Ian, please awared @primetime some award for this around, are you sure he is not BB?
edit @sb1 was advocating for signing Newton, his post does not read so i think, based on taking just his post.
Hey this is just history in real time and it is only for fan. I hope no one uses this to insult anybody. Any of you want a redo? Cam has not made the team yet but just bringing him here is huge. It has surprised me as well as I did not see it at all. BB is incredible. Just when you think you know the man, he comes at you with logic.

Thanks for digging out my take. I think I am fine without a redo.

As I said weeks before, going incentive heavy to make yourself value would be the way.

 

[fnordcircle]

Any dooshbag can revisit history and brag that I told you so.

Where is your prediction that Newton will sign in NE?

With all the L's you've been taking lately when it comes to many topics I can understand why you're testy when you get called out for the things you've said in the past.

 

[luuked]

A year as a backup won't hurt him, a year as a backup on the best team in the NFL is beneficial for anyone. This assuming Stidham doesn't fold like a cheap suit or get injured. I don't think Stidham will lay down, but could be wrong. If Stid's is a stud, Newton could win a ring as a backup.

I think they'll have an open competition in camp, Newton and Stidham are the two best in any order assuming Jarrett can play and Cam is relatively healthy.

I feel more secure with Stidham/Newton/Hoyer/J'Mar Smith on the depth chart than I did Stidham/Hoyer/Smith.

To me the obvious way it will play out is either Newton/Stidham with Hoyer released or Stidham/Hoyer with Newton released.

I don't think Cam will stay on the roster as a backup mostly for pragmatic reasons (i.e. roster incentives) but from everything that has been said this offseason it also doesn't seem to be something he would be particularly into.

It will be on Newton to show he is physically healthy and mentally able to run whatever McDaniels and Fisch are putting together. If he can do that then he is clearly the best QB on the roster given his experience and talent.

That might be unfair towards Stidham who had no chance to build that experience yet but that is the way it goes in professional sports.

 

[DarrylS]

Low risk, possible high reward on this signing.. Newton has never been a fave of mine, but what is not to like about this low risk signing??..

At best he will be the opening day QB but I think Hoyer should be looking over his shoulder more than Stidham..

Unfortunately, we will not be able to observe how he looks at TC, otoh still not convinced there will even be a season..

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

We got a recent former NFL MVP for bare minimum on an incentive-laden deal..

This is genius. Anyone who thinks otherwise is reacting off of pure emotion.

I half agree, but there are unanswered questions that are not pure emotion. BB likes a bargain but they have not all worked out - Albert Haynesworth.

1. Is he healthy? Brady had a lot of cleanup surgeries, but as long as Brady had his right arm he was good to go (he could never run anyway). Can Cam run and throw effectively? He has taken a lot of hits. Lamar Jackson was the MVP, but will he even be in the league in 10 years, a la RGIII?
2. Will Cam work within the structure? Seems a bit flamboyant, but the Panthers were a no nonsense team, so maybe he adusts to the Patriot Way.
3. Does he fit the system? I read he has experience in the Pats' offensive system, but is this exaggerated?

Cam is taking a "prove it" deal which is a great sign. It might be a good thing for Stidham to learn for 1 more year before being the starter. If Cam is sucessful, we are sucessful, and get a 3rd round comp pick.

There are a lot of things to like IF Cam is not at 75 or 80% of his ability due to the multiple shoulder and foot issues, accepts the discipline and can pick up the offensive system - those are not pure emotional concerns.

 

[Patsgofor4]

I'm here for the blowhards who said this would never happen.

I will neither confirm nor deny that I wrote a post that included several photos of his most flamboyant post-game outfits and gave a thumbs down. IF I wrote that post, it was partly coming from the viewpoint a burned Newton fantasy football owner during two different seasons.

If my good friend Bill thinks that this is a good idea, the June 29th 2020 me thinks that this is awesome. Let's go!

 

[Patsgofor4]

‎The GM Shuffle with Michael Lombardi and Adnan Virk: Buccaneers Potential, 2020 MVP Odds, Cam Newtown Landing Spots, Jacksonville Jaguars on Apple Podcasts

Lombardi is wrong as frequently as he is right and his arrogance and frequent self-promotion bothers me but sometimes he is spot-on and I always listen closely when he talks about the Pats.

He talks Newton and the Pats at 23:00 and again 24:00. Seems prescient, in retrospect (other than the cap space being a hindrance).

 

[Tony2046]

Take nothing away from Brady who never really had to do much at all out of the pocket since his defensive reading in the pocket was better than anyone,but the intriguing part here is,is that this team finally gets a QB in a regular season game that can consistently run away from trouble when the receivers are well covered and the defensive line pressure is coming - this is something the Patriots have not had in decades and will be interesting to see a huge change on offense schemes,a mobile likely starting quarterback in New England is going to be something to watch.

I call BS on this post.

 

[signbabybrady]

3. Does he fit the system? I read he has experience in the Pats' offensive system, but is this exaggerated?

Not exaggerated. It may not have been what they most recently ran, I'm not sure on that, but they had used the EP system under Rivera. They switched Coordinators and not sure if that meant a new O or if the Coordinator adopted the system.