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No defense!The Pats had Gronk and Brady and lost a SB to the Eagles
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Did you fail to forget that a huge portion of that team and most of the defense from the 18-1 team was still there at both Belichick's and Cassel's disposal? - its not like Cassel started on a team that was 2-14 the year before - come on man - that team was still stacked,even without Brady and actually that 11-5 record would have been 15-1 and a AFCCG with Tom at the helmBrady was 10-6 the year after that.
Still shows that with Belichick this team isn’t falling off a cliff even without Brady. Same thing when people were predicting 0-4 when Brady was suspended.
I think the logic that a 43 year old Brady is the one and only difference between a Super Bowl contending team and a team picking high in the draft next year like some are implying is really bizarre and kind of sucks in its own way. But we’re all entitled to our opinion.
Like I said before I look at the Patriots going 11-5 with Cassel and compare to the Colts without Manning. The difference between us and them is the coach. We have Bill they had Caldwell, a career .300 college coach.Did you fail to forget that a huge portion of that team and most of the defense from the 18-1 team was still there at both Belichick's and Cassel's disposal? - its not like Cassel started on a team that was 2-14 the year before - come on man
You pointed to 2007/2008, not just last year. That was a moment that should have embarrassed the hell out of you. The greatest team of all time became a non-playoff team without its QB.
The Vegas line is 8.5 wins for the Patriots this season....we can hope for the best but I would not bet my house on the over on that number - If Brady and Gronk returned that number would be 12.5Like I said before I look at the Patriots going 11-5 with Cassel and compare to the Colts without Manning. The difference between us and them is the coach. We have Bill they had Caldwell, a career .300 college coach.
All I’m saying is we still have Bill. I give him the benefit of the doubt that this team will get by without Brady until he proves otherwise.
The Pats had Gronk and Brady and lost a SB to the Eagles
The Vegas line is 8.5 wins for the Patriots this season....we can hope for the best but I would not bet my house on the over on that number - If Brady and Gronk returned that number would be 12.5
Like I said before I look at the Patriots going 11-5 with Cassel and compare to the Colts without Manning. The difference between us and them is the coach. We have Bill they had Caldwell, a career .300 college coach.
All I’m saying is we still have Bill. I give him the benefit of the doubt that his team will get by without Brady until he proves otherwise.
I will say there was a big difference in those teams mindsets minus the QBs. Without Manning the colts knew they were in full suck for luck mode. BB teams would never have that mindset.
Now comparing both teams talent wise there is no comparison. The 2008 pats > 2011 colts. Our backup Cassel > Curtis Painter.
see my response right above.
Yeah, that's a ridiculously stupid take.
Same.I’m not cheering for any team but the Patriots. Doesn’t matter who isn’t here.
what’s stupid about it?
Everything, with the possible exception of the punctuation.
Cassel was horrendous in that preseason. I remember he was being talked about as a candidate to be cut. I don’t think many of us were thinking of him as a future pro bowler.
Then he became pretty good and the system was adjusted to fit him. That’s coaching imo.
Colts also didn’t tank imo. Teams don’t do that at least not on purpose.