Coronavirus RESPECTFUL Discussion Only! (Mod edit: Closed)

[venecol]

Decrease medical and dental visits.
Thanks to construction industry for donations.

 

[venecol]

Surgeon General: millennials should consider donating blood.

 

[venecol]

Blodd donations taking a major hit because of social distancing

 

[patsfan13]

Its pretty silly to object to calling it the Wuhan Coranavirus. Given that, as far as we know, it did originate in Wuhan China.

I mean
Spanish flu - Wikipedia

racist?

Rocky Mountain Fever

 

[venecol]

Q&A:
1. No economic incentives to go for executive bonuses or buy backs. He's ok with that;
2. Hasn't pulled trigger on Defense act he enacted yesterday, explaining why, it's for locals;
3. When will rendestrivere be available. FDA guy's prohibited by law to say, lol so much for reduced red tape;
4. CDC guidelines to reuse masks and use bandanas. How is this acceptable. Pence says met with industry to expedite delivery of masks;
5.

 

[venecol]

5. Masks ready?? Pence won't say;
6. Again when will masks be ready. Now he says now (they're not).

 

[PatsWSB47]

A lot of the new data is sensible and positive. Lower rates in Korea and China. This means a projected end to this. IMO. Also the data in that princess Cruise article. 83 % of people on ship didn't get it despite ideal conditions for spread. Plus half who tested positive had no symptoms.

Soon people need to stop freaking out about this. It's a nasty virus for some..

question. Who hasn't had a nasty virus? Cough cough... Swollen throat? I once went to doctor because I couldn't swallow. It went away. If I was 80 maybe it would have killed me. Woweee.. now we shut down the world. Brilliant.

Are you serious or just trolling?

 

[catent]

since it’s still being discussed

For those who didn't read the article, Vox claimed that "Chinese virus" was a racist term to use; they never claimed "coronavirus" was racist to say at any point in the article.

The bit about "coronavirus" quoted by the tweeter was an account of the various terms used by the administration.

While I can understand where he is coming from, it's a somewhat uncritical take IMHO.

 

[venecol]

7. They eliminated liability for mask companies
8. Hospitals need $100 billion for supplies. Trump looking at that specifically
9.

 

[patsfan13]

Yep pretty incredible, it’s almost as if locking up in a cruise ship room slows the transmission rate.

I take it you haven't much experience with science. You have a petri dish where you can test rates of infection and break down the data with a control group then look at the statistics associated with the sub groups.

We would never intentionally infect a group and place then at danger, but when this situation unexpectedly caused us to quarantine this group to present spread to the general population, it created an opportunity to learn.

Feel free to go back top clutching pearls kid.

 

[venecol]

9. Trump blaming media for not being fair. They were prepared but not for media. Back to China ban. He was prepared from day 1. Media doesn't acknowledge that.
10. Drs desperate. Trump says working with states. For yeard they bought them but now going to federal gov. Lol

 

[venecol]

11. Masks being made now.
12. Explain gap between tests not being available or madks versus them says both are available. Trump can't explain gap. Jesus

 

[venecol]

13. Backlash over corporate bailout from Republicans. Trump doesn't want to pick winners and losers but needs to help people

 

[catent]

@venecol is just trolling and looking for a reaction by calling it trump virus. Don’t feed it

LMao YOu're upsEt OveR wHat HE'S calLiNG ThE vIrus anD Not thE viRUs ITsElf? fAKe OUTrAGe snowflAKe.

 

[FirstAndGoal]

Well, at least we're taking it seriously now... I was encouraged when I heard about the hospital ships until I heard, they won't be in place for 3 weeks :/

I don't want to get into who or what but as a response, these ships should have been sitting off the east and west coasts just in case. I'm grateful they are on their way but irritated as the one nation with the resources and ability to be prepared, we were caught so flat-footed on this.

Would also be nice to have 2 more of these hospital ships.... one sitting in the Great Lakes and one off the coast of Orleans just in case to deal with any critical needs of the populated areas in the middle of the country. Would love to see a budget that included a couple more after this situation in hindsight.

 

[venecol]

14. Q on rendesivere: currently in clinical trials. Using it for compassionate use for testing. How do they know its safe? Drug is going thru normal process.

 

[fightingirish595]

LMao YOu're upsEt OveR wHat HE'S calLiNG ThE vIrus anD Not thE viRUs ITsElf? fAKe OUTrAGe snowflAKe.

???
Not sure what you’re grasping at here

 

[venecol]

15. 3 states and 10 counties where 50% of cases, should they do more? Trump leaving it up to locals.

 

[catent]

@fightingirish595

Obviously I'm busting your balls man, no ill will intended, I like you as a poster. Gotta be a bit more kind to each other, especially during these unstable times. But I think the point Venecol was trying to make worked. The language we use does matter.

 

[50-yard-line]

Is it possible to use a given term and then realize after the fact that it wasn't appropriate? Happens all the time.

I don't mean to pretend that all media entities/members are saints, obviously they are not, and there is rampant incompetence and corruption in the media, much like any profession or institution. But it's not incompatible to at one point use a given term and later decide that isn't an appropriate thing to say.

And that's not touching on the fact that the situation *now* is very different than it was 2-3 months ago. Using "Chinese" or "Wuhan" 3 months ago would've made more sense, because at that time the virus was largely isolated (geographically) to China, so there is value in that language. Now the virus is geographically everywhere, so the value in using that term to describe the virus from a geographic standpoint isn't there anymore (other than to describe its origin). Situations change.

I don't understand why people changing their behavior or evolving is considered a negative in every instance.

I'm sure a lot of media members used that term initially, were told it wasn't a great look, and changed their behavior. No one would have an issue with the president or other politicians if they did the same.

If Trump said the following I would be appeased:

"In the past I have used the term "Chinese" to describe the Corona virus. While COVID did originate in China, the virus now exists across the world. Although it was not my intent, I can understand how specifically describing it as a "Chinese" virus could create racial animus among certain people. Moving forward I will refer to the virus as "COVID" or "Corona". With that said, the Chinese government acted in corrupt and malicious ways at various stages of this pandemic, and my administration will be addressing their wrongdoing at an appropriate time".

Hahahaha, yeah, that'll happen. There are already reports of Trump/Pence fundraising letters (with a screenshot, so if it's a hoax, someone went to a lot of trouble to do it) saying "China is attacking us" and accusing Joe Biden of "siding with China."

Also, one powerful Senator told hiis big donors back in February that this was going to be really bad. Think about that when you look at your 401k and know that the big guys had a 3-week head start on selling/adjusting/gobbling up cash while the President and Larry F***ing Kudlow were telling the public to "buy."