Coronavirus RESPECTFUL Discussion Only! (Mod edit: Closed)

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Just a suggestion...if you're talking about HOME protection, particularly with kids in the house, you may want to get a shotgun instead.

I just don’t know where I’d put the darn thing. Bay Area homes aren’t exactly huge... and it would need to be in a safe.

 

[JetFan79]

Damn... 250k tested in South Korea, yet still only 10k tested in the US.

For weeks now we've heard testing is available if ya want it.

In a country of 330+ million, you'd think we'd need at least a million test results to get a good idea of the state of things.

Wonder how much longer it'll take to get mass testing.

 

[Tunescribe]

I laugh at the tactical part at times but I’m not a huge shotgun fan but I can see how they see useful. Trust me though, as much as black rifle scary talk there is, an AR platform is outstanding. Play with one sometime if you can and you will see why.

The "tactical" appeal, to me, is a practical consideration about it being smaller/less cumbersome to wield. I'd just want it for home defense and if I had to hunt, which would mean pointing in the general direction of a wild turkey. I would have no use for an assault rifle but I'm sure they're fun to play with.

 

[50-yard-line]

I just don’t know where I’d put the darn thing. Bay Area homes aren’t exactly huge... and it would need to be in a safe.

You can't really turn a shotgun on yourself. A small kid could barely lift one.

In a stressful situation - home invasion - actually hitting the invader with a pistol is pretty remarkable unless you've had lots of training (and even then, the hit rate is incredibly low. One flinch, one reaction to turn away, and you missed.

I don't shoot anymore and haven't for decades, but when I used to, we had a saying at the skeet club: Close don't count except in horseshoes, hand grenades, nukes, and a 12-gauge.

If you want advice or even care, my position is that you're a lot safer in a house with kids without having a gun in your house, by all statistics I've ever seen.

Having said that, every situation is different, and this is totally your choice. I do believe, just logically, that a shotgun is far less likely to cause a home tragedy than a pistol which can be turned in the hand to look down the barrel.

 

[50-yard-line]

It doesn't matter where he was.

Look- I understand what he was trying to do which is to add a little levity and calmness to a tough situation. It doesn't make him a bad person but a lot of people who are scared or are being impacted by the virus I'm sure don't appreciate it.

Just saw a clip of Rep Devin Nunes yesterday urging people to take their famies out for dinner.

I wish I was kidding.

 

[bormio]

The Brits are adopting a much different approach. Isolate the elderly and infirm- then let the virus work through the population to create herd immunity. The elderly can then renter the population with virtually no one to get them sick. So no school closures, no restaurants closed, open transportation systems etc. Keeping the elderly isolated will help ease the need for critical care. The initial recommendation is 4 months.

 

[Adam Seward]

I used to practice at a gun range across from where I worked in Poway CA. They had I think the largest rental and indoor range in the country, lots of CHP, SDPD, Navy training going on. I would take a lot of stress out on sets of blueprints at lunch. P90 and the Tavor quickly rose to the top of my list though I never ended up buying a firearm.

Now I live in Portland ME, on the second story of a house in a very quiet neighborhood with very narrow stairways leading up to our very heavy doors. Armed with a ****ing Milwaukee Circ Saw.

I feel like peacetime statistics aren’t indicative of a societal collapse such as Katrina. We are primal and when our monkey brains meet desperation, it is foolish to underestimate what a motivated individual may be capable of.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

The Brits are adopting a much different approach. Isolate the elderly and infirm- then let the virus work through the population to create herd immunity. The elderly can then renter the population with virtually no one to get them sick. So no school closures, no restaurants closed, open transportation systems etc. Keeping the elderly isolated will help ease the need for critical care. The initial recommendation is 4 months.

I’ve been thinking this is the right way to go.

 

[Adam Seward]

The Brits are adopting a much different approach. Isolate the elderly and infirm- then let the virus work through the population to create herd immunity. The elderly can then renter the population with virtually no one to get them sick. So no school closures, no restaurants closed, open transportation systems etc. Keeping the elderly isolated will help ease the need for critical care. The initial recommendation is 4 months.

If there was ever a time for the “Bold move, Lets see if it pays off!” meme, this would be it.

 

[bormio]

If there was ever a time for the “Bold move, Lets see if it pays off!” meme, this would be it.

Johnson will either get the Nobel Peace Prize or the Tower of London.

 

[Adam Seward]

Don't forget Matt Gaetz...
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You mean that’s not an intro to the latest Coronavirus porno?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Damn... 250k tested in South Korea, yet still only 10k tested in the US.

For weeks now we've heard testing is available if ya want it.

In a country of 330+ million, you'd think we'd need at least a million test results to get a good idea of the state of things.

Wonder how much longer it'll take to get mass testing.

Lots of red tape. I would imagine by the end of the week that hundreds of thousands of test kits will be made available. It's important to realize the FDA has stringent rules - the quality has to be there and just because South Korea and other nations are testing their citizens in masses does not mean their kits are reliable.

 

[bormio]

Lots of red tape. I would imagine by the end of the week that hundreds of thousands of test kits will be made available. It's important to realize the FDA has stringent rules - the quality has to be there and just because South Korea and other nations are testing their citizens in masses does not mean their kits are reliable.

The WHO test has a high false negative rate

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Just saw a clip of Rep Devin Nunes yesterday urging people to take their famies out for dinner.

I wish I was kidding.

Plenty of people are out and about. You just have to exercise caution. You can't stay in your home 24/7.

 

[Adam Seward]

Lots of red tape. I would imagine by the end of the week that hundreds of thousands of test kits will be made available. It's important to realize the FDA has stringent rules - the quality has to be there and just because South Korea and other nations are testing their citizens in masses does not mean their kits are reliable.

You mean like the CDCs botched attempt after turning down the WHO

 

[SHOWTIME15]

The WHO test has a high false negative rate

That was certainly one of the concerns. It's pointless to test people if the kits are not reliable...in the short term it may make people feel better but in the long run it's giving a false impression as to the actual numbers.

 

[JetFan79]

Lots of red tape. I would imagine by the end of the week that hundreds of thousands of test kits will be made available. It's important to realize the FDA has stringent rules - the quality has to be there and just because South Korea and other nations are testing their citizens in masses does not mean their kits are reliable.

Yeah I suppose. Just would have been nice to get this started months earlier.

I wonder how people will react when the numbers inevitably jump drastically with more testing.

Hopefully most realize the numbers of infected are already much higher than officially known. So when it does become official, we don't have pandemonium.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

That is slightly disturbing.

Only slightly???

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

Don't you guys have those plastic face protectors? I guess they won't stop a droplet from getting in under the bottom.

But aerosols spray from drill going 430K rpm get everywhere. The N95 masks are nowhere to be found so I improvised based on a youtube video. Not perfect but better than the standard stuff we have. Pre rinse w peroxide to decrease viral load and isolation techniques and hope if I/we get it, it's mild....

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

At some point I'll probably look into buying a tactical shotgun.

Just the sound of a shotgun being 'racked' can have a deterrent effect....