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Not bad. Comps are tough. Ive been on the JJ = Holt wagon for a while now. Can't not see them. Don't get the Lamb to Holt tho.

See more of a Chris Chambers, Hopkins, etc

Very impressed by Lambs blocking when I watched him.


Yeah, pretty good comps even if I didn't agree with all of them.

I did love the Devin Duvenay comparison to Albert Wilson, except, I think Devin has the better hands after watching Albert's career at GSU. We could definitely find a role for him on the team.

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It's always surprising people bring up Antwaan Randle El for Lynn Bowden's QB to WR comparison when Edelman is a more recent and apt example. He should be one of our targeted prospects in the draft.

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To my eyes, Brandon Aiyuk style compares some to WR Nelson Agholor, even down to the iffy hands Nelson sometimes exhibit with the Eagles.

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Penn State WR KJ Hamler

Hamler (5’9/176) is an undersized slot WR/punt returner whose game remains raw. But you can’t fake athletic explosion, and he has it in spades. My biggest concern is that Hamler dropped 12 balls on 92 targets last year; his 60.9-percent reception percentage was quite poor. Three targets that went his way were intercepted. Hamler also had four drops in 2018. Those were his only two collegiate seasons; he redshirted in 2017. Hamler is a body-catcher. I feel like we’re going to have some Andy Isabella-esque arguments about him this spring, with the athletic testing truthers swapped out for the analytics guys. Either way, Hamler’s athletic testing basically guarantees he won’t fall out of Day 2. God only gives so many human beings that gift. And KJ got it. Gosh dang can he move.

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Reed, the wide receiver from Virginia had a good day of practice at the shrine game.

I like his tape and his versatility. I am penciling him into our draft in the sixth round, depending on how he runs.

The kid is very bright, and an overachiever. Have to think he'd hit it off with Brady.
 
WR Bryan Edwards- Broken Foot (Not Participating in Combine)



 
WR Bryan Edwards- Broken Foot (Not Participating in Combine)



Gutted for him. Would of love to see his combine. Especially his 40 time.. think he will be a great guy for whoever manages to get him.
 
What PFF’s analytics say about the 2020 wide receiver prospects


KJ Hamler, Penn State- Hands Quality

Hamler let 12 catchable balls hit the deck in 2019 for a drop rate of 16.9% (t-321). Pair that with a below average contested catch rate of 36.4% and you can see why I’d be hesitant on adding the dangerous but inconsistent Penn State product.
Henry Ruggs III, Alabama- Hands Quality
In his three-year stint at Alabama, Ruggs dropped only five total passes and finished off 2019 with only one drop and a 2.4% drop rate. Ruggs was his most efficient in the intermediate area of the field, hauling in 14 of 18 passes for 2 touchdowns for a passer rating when targeted of 155.8 (4th).
Brandon Aiyuk, Arizona State- Yards After Catch (YAC)
Aiyuk was 8th in the country for screen yards (241) and was targeted as such due to his tremendous ability after the catch. His 10.9 YAC average was also 8th in the country
Quartney Davis, Texas A&M- Deep Threat
“Of his 99 catches in his career, only six came 20-plus yards downfield. One of the reasons may be that he struggled to get off press coverage and as such played in the slot a ton.” In 2019, Davis only caught one “deep” pass for 29 yards.
Devin Duvernay, Texas- Slot WR Receptions/Deep Threat
His 104 receptions and 1,387 yards from the slot both rank 2nd in the country. The only player with more slot receptions and yards was LSU’s Justin Jefferson. Unlike the aforementioned Quartney Davis, working primarily from the slot didn’t hurt Duvernay’s deep ball production. He hauled in 12 deep receptions (t-21st) for 432 yards (t-28th), in part thanks to a 60% contested catch rate.
Jauan Jennings, Tennessee- Broken Tackles
Jennings led the nation for broken tackles among wide receivers, shaking loose of an absurd 30 attempts. That’s four more than second place, with Oklahoma’s CeeDee Lamb shaking 26 folk in 2019.
Jalen Reagor, TCU- Bad QB Play
“According to PFF’s advanced ball location charting, only 30.7% of Reagor’s targets in 2019 were charted as accurate. Only three other FBS receivers had it worse this past season.”
Denzel Mims, Baylor- Hands Quality
After a 2017 campaign of 61-1,087-8, Mims took a step back in 2018, totaling a less appealing 55-794-8 stat line. That’s not too shabby, but the big concern were his hands due to his 11 drops of 66 catchable balls. Returning to school after the disappointing season, Mims’ 2019 campaign went much better (66-1,015-12). He also dropped his drop rate nearly in half

What PFF’s analytics say about the 2020 wide receiver prospects
 
Reagor, Ruggs, Hamler.. Any of those three i'd love to see in this offense. Personally i could see Ruggs being the first guy off the board, his 40 time will be scary.
 
Mayock on why WRs are so hit and miss early in drafts

 
Reagor, Ruggs, Hamler.. Any of those three i'd love to see in this offense. Personally i could see Ruggs being the first guy off the board, his 40 time will be scary.
Agree.I would also add Van Jefferson - the more I watch this kiddo tapes the more I like his space creation and route running ability. He poses a threat in every place of the field.
 
Steven Smith Jr (formerly of the Carolina Panthers) says the following are game ready WRs that you don't have to spend a 1st round pick on. I'm curious what you think @BaconGrundleCandy .

Nine instant impact receivers who won't cost a first-round pick

1) Brandon Aiyuk
2) Antonio Gandy-Golden
3) K.J. Hamler
4) John Hightower
5) Tyler Johnson
6) Van Jefferson
7) Denzel Mims
8) Michael Pittman, Jr
9) Jalen Reagor

Based on Smith's takes, I see Hamler, Jefferson and Reagor as guys to watch.
 
Steven Smith Jr (formerly of the Carolina Panthers) says the following are game ready WRs that you don't have to spend a 1st round pick on. I'm curious what you think @BaconGrundleCandy .

Nine instant impact receivers who won't cost a first-round pick

1) Brandon Aiyuk
2) Antonio Gandy-Golden
3) K.J. Hamler
4) John Hightower
5) Tyler Johnson
6) Van Jefferson
7) Denzel Mims
8) Michael Pittman, Jr
9) Jalen Reagor

Based on Smith's takes, I see Hamler, Jefferson and Reagor as guys to watch.

He is talking about slot guys or outside guys?
 


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