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Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by BaconGrundleCandy, May 27, 2019.

  1. Patriot Missile

    Patriot Missile Pro Bowl Player

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    Claypool had a great combine. Was not expecting him to run so well. Not too worried about Jeudy and Lambs 40 times. They play fast and its easy to see with the eyes as it really didn’t matter who they played against, big school, small school, the tape was great.
     
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    2020 NFL Scouting Combine winners/losers: WRs

    Aaron Fuller, WR, Washington
    John Hightower, WR, Boise State
    CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
    Quez Watkins, WR, Southern Miss
    Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado
    2020 NFL Scouting Combine winners/losers: Justin Herbert stars
     
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  3. captain stone

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    Shenault's having core muscle surgery, as per NFLN...Say buh-bye to any 1st-round consideration he may have had remaining...
     
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    his college tape has some amazing plays on it. Shame this had to happen to him.
     
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    Ochmed Jones Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    Watched a lot of tape on the Notre Dame receiver carpool.

    I did not realize, he was a gunner for Notre Dame special teams, and he made a bunch of tackles,

    I think bb has this kid on his draft board for sure!
     
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    patsrj Practice Squad Player

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    It might affected his combine results, his 40 time was slower than expected. He'd be great value in the 2nd round.

    About carpool, I was really impressed with his performance. I'll try to watch more tape on him.
    But for anyone who has, what your take about his route tree and ability to create separation?
     
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    He's a 4 down player. Been on the PTP before the year.
     
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    You asking about Claypools ability to separate and rr .. Or Shenault?
     
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    Claypool is really difficult to disrupt off the LOS with a ton of strength and length, above average at high-pointing (his timing can be slightly off at times but he's usually catching jump balls even if that's the case with his length, athleticism and very consistent concentration. He had some trouble with drops in 2018, but he was extremely reliable this past season.

    He's a high effort player, a very good blocker in space, adequate ability after the catch. Matchup nightmare, plus he has special teams value. I would love to snag him with a second rounder. The kid has also had a chip on his shoulder since high school. I know Belichick generally avoids ND players, but I've followed Chase since he was a recruit (I'm active on ND football and recruiting sites) and I think he has a much higher ceiling and floor than he's been given credit for to this point.

    There has been a stigma against ND skill players (except tight end, of course) for a long time with their explosiveness and athleticism being questioned, but that's been inaccurate over the past few seasons, as they've really ramped up recruiting and development. Kelly and his staff have turned ND back into a consistent source of legitimate NFL talent.

    ND players are also generally smart, humble and coachable.
     
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    Claypool
     
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    He's a physical guy. If you press him you definitely need to make it count or he'll use his natural length and strength to win. I've used the term "natural separation" before and he has it. Just knows how/when to move to create space.
    He's a + blocker. 4 Down Player. Lots of untapped potential from a technique standpoint.

    He does have to get better off the line. Again he uses his physical strengths very well but not a ton nuance with his release.

    I assume he'd be a flex/move, piece for us considering Harry but who knows.

    +MOF/Outside #'s

    Harry and Claypool would be two nasty blockers. Big bodies with contested catch ability.

    We need another slot option. Jefferson would be a perfect complement here.
     
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    this draft has a ton of really good slot receivers. Plus Myers works best out of the slot,
     
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    Power WR Rankings
    Chase Claypool - A freak that can dominate 1 on 1.
    Tee Higgins - Solid, unspectacular
    Juwan Johnson - Solid, unspectacular
    Denzel Mims - I consider him a bigger guy who's not as fast as his timed 40, but he can stretch the field a bit
    Shenault - Everyone knows he's strong, but he can't get separation, and he doesn't make a lot of great efforts for the football. He's a glorified Cordarelle Patterson.
    Brandon Aiyuk
    Michael Pittman - can't separate
    Dezmon Patton - can't separate

    Finesse WR Rankings
    Jefferson - Love this cat. Fantastic body control and routes. He's a huge threat in the midrange, from the inside and the outside. He looks like a future star.
    CeeDee Lamb - I'd take him over Jeudy but after Jefferson. Elite quickness and hands. Not a deep threat but he can own a defense in the midrange.
    KJ Hamler - He's just going to be unguardable by a lot of guys, and he's such a threat in the open field.
    Jeudy - great routes but will his catching ability be good enough to make him a #1? I don't bet on it. What's a guy that's always open that you can't depend on? And maybe his catching is fine. I just have my concerns.
    Henry Ruggs - I'm skeptical. Speed and what else.
    Quez Watkins - Also made of speed but can be had a whole lot cheaper.
    Darnell Mooney
    Devin Duvernay


    My favorite guys are Jefferson and Hamler. Watkins is my fav sleeper.

    Lots of guys, so I didn't get around to ranking everyone.
     
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    There are a few listed above that I would hope we select , but R1 or R3 ?.
     
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    This could be good news since we should be looking wr day2. Don’t know if he slips to round 3 but I would love to package a few picks to get him round 2.
     
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    zimmy Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    I'm a big Jefferson fan too. Eats in the middle of the field, has great hands and is a nuanced route runner. Doesn't seem as athletic as his timed speed suggests but he catches everything. Would take him at 23.

    I also love me some Brandon Aiyuk. He is an absolute weapon with the ball in his hands and just separates so easily. He also plays faster than his timed 4.5 speed. Would happily take him at the top of the 2nd if we trade down.

    Also like KJ Hamler in the late 2nd if we can move around the draft board.
     
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    Would love to have Hamler learn from Edelman.
     
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    Justin or Van?
     
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