****** Official "Season's over, time to clean house" hirings/firings thread ******

[Deus Irae]

To be fair, most of those QBs you listed never played much and no one turns water into wine. BB coached in Cleveland over a quarter of a century ago, so that doesn’t mean much.

JG has had a pretty damn good season and looks like the real deal, though BB certainly traded the right QB to SF. Agree on Brissett though.

The correct answer is that he hasn't done a damned thing with any QB not named Brady, and none of those QBs were sufficiently well developed in New England as to go on and become monster talents elsewhere. Whether you choose to blame that on coaching or talent is irrelevant to the issue of Sportnik's continuing trolling with his moronic takes about Brady.

His claim of "BB is perfectly capable of winning without Brady" has proven to be completely untrue to this point in his coaching career.

 

[sportnik]

The correct answer is that he hasn't done a damned thing with any QB not named Brady, and none of those QBs were sufficiently well developed in New England as to go on and become monster talents elsewhere. Whether you choose to blame that on coaching or talent is irrelevant to the issue of Sportnik's continuing trolling with his moronic takes about Brady.

His claim of "BB is perfectly capable of winning without Brady" has proven to be completely untrue to this point in his coaching career.

Belichick hasn’t had a chance to win a Championship without Brady since 1996. 25 years ago. So that’s your proof that he can’t win without Brady?

If Kraft were to follow your advise and fire BB now, knowing there’s no way he can win without Brady, every single team in the league would back up the Brinks trick to try to hire Belichick. Does that sound like a guy who can’t win without Brady?

Your constant trolling about BB is getting tiring.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

If the Pats had kept JG through the end of 2017 with the intention of retaining him it would have meant they had to trade/cut Brady after the season and eat a significant cap hit. They would have then needed to franchise or sign JG to a long term top of market deal crippling their 2018 cap. Even assuming he does not get injured like he did, that team is not winning the Super Bowl.

No, they wouldn’t have had to eat any cap hit for Brady.

If they wanted to keep JG they never would have extended Brady to 2019. That extension, and the cap hits that went with it, are what guaranteed JG would be gone by the 2017 trading deadline. In other words, the decision to get rid of JG was actually made in 2016 or the post-2016 offseason.

If they hadn’t extended Brady then his contract would have ended at the end of 2017 and there would have been no dead money hit to letting him walk at the end of 2017. So if they had wanted to move to JG in 2018 they could have done it with no extra cap hit beyond JG’s new contract.

 

[TomPatriot]

The correct answer is that he hasn't done a damned thing with any QB not named Brady, and none of those QBs were sufficiently well developed in New England as to go on and become monster talents elsewhere. Whether you choose to blame that on coaching or talent is irrelevant to the issue of Sportnik's continuing trolling with his moronic takes about Brady.

His claim of "BB is perfectly capable of winning without Brady" has proven to be completely untrue to this point in his coaching career.

Well, he went 11-5 with Cassel, a guy who basically hadn’t been a QB since high school.

I thought Sportnik’s claim was that BB contributed to Brady’s developing into the GOAT, which you seemed to dispute. Did I misunderstand?

 

[Deus Irae]

Well, he went 11-5 with Cassel, a guy who basically hadn’t been a QB since high school.

I thought Sportnik’s claim was that BB contributed to Brady’s developing into the GOAT, which you seemed to dispute. Did I misunderstand?

When you're pimping the Cassel season as proof of BB's coaching greatness as opposed to Brady's, you've lost the argument. Cassel, whom all about 3 people on this board (I was one of the 3 or so) wanted to be cut, took an 18-1 team and turned it into an 11-5 team THAT MISSED THE PLAYOFFS, despite having an incredibly easy schedule. Now, pointing that out is not an attempt to belittle Cassel, or the job Cassel/the team/the coaches did in that 2008 season (to repeat, I was one of only about a handful of people on this site who was defending Cassel, and who did not want him cut). It's just a way of highlighting the difference between Brady and everyone else.

And Sportnik's claim is that other BB QBs could have won SBs under BB (he claimed that JAG could have won last year, for example, which is particularly asinine given that the particular QB in question (JAG) spend most of last year on IR because he popped his ACL early on). He's talking out of his ass as a means of trolling. It's what he does. You can see it by going back and checking his posting history.

 

[ralmat55]

No, they wouldn’t have had to eat any cap hit for Brady.

If they wanted to keep JG they never would have extended Brady to 2019. That extension, and the cap hits that went with it, are what guaranteed JG would be gone by the 2017 trading deadline. In other words, the decision to get rid of JG was actually made in 2016 or the post-2016 offseason.

If they hadn’t extended Brady then his contract would have ended at the end of 2017 and there would have been no dead money hit to letting him walk at the end of 2017. So if they had wanted to move to JG in 2018 they could have done it with no extra cap hit beyond JG’s new contract.

You’re talking about the same owner and coach/GM who traded Drew Bledsoe less than a year after giving him a huge extension. If BOTH the coach and the owner wanted to keep JG and release or trade Brady, it would have happened extension or no extension.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

The whole point of Brady’s 2019 extension (aside from getting him under contract for two more years) was that the cap hits under it made him near-uncuttable/untradable.

Depending on how Bledsoe’s contract was structured (and back then players generally had a lot less guaranteed money than they do now) there may have been very little dead money, unlike Brady’s extension to 2019.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The whole point of Brady’s 2019 extension (aside from getting him under contract for two more years) was that the cap hits under it made him near-uncuttable/untradable.

Depending on how Bledsoe’s contract was structured (and back then players generally had a lot less guaranteed money than they do now) there may have been very little dead money, unlike Brady’s extension to 2019.

Drew's contract was very team friendly.

BLEDSOE'S RECORD DEAL: 10 YEARS, $103 MILLION

 

[Deus Irae]

Veteran assistant Juan Castillo will be joining the #Bears as their offensive line coach, source said. A big move for Matt Nagy’s staff.

Castillo was a longtime #Eagles OL coach and later DC under Andy Reid, who gave Nagy his start in Philly. Now, Castillo and Nagy reunited in Chicago. twitter.com/tompelissero/s…

 

[Deus Irae]

A credit to Dak Prescott, his OL and their coaches: Prescott attempted 70 more passes this season compared to 2018 and suffered 33 fewer sacks. This is part of reason I’m hearing Jerry Jones wants to retain some offensive coaches under contract for 2020.

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[Patsgofor4]

What would we have done without that critical update? Huge news.

 

[Deus Irae]

What would we have done without that critical update? Huge news.

Some people like getting this type of football information, and some don't. There are plenty of other threads to read, if you don't like this one. You can even use the ignore thread function under thread tools, so it won't pop up on your screen.


And have a great 2020!

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

Great
Let’s hope he doesn’t get any job and Id rather Carolina for him than Cleveland.

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

To the people who laughed when I brought up Kellen Moore’s name
Screw you

 

[fnordcircle]

Genuinely curious how McDaniels can line up the best staff available to him after what went down last time.

 

[Triumph]

Dallas must be keeping Garrett for him to survive day 1 of the hanging trial. Jerry does not have the stomach to fire the son he never had.

 

[Deus Irae]

I stopped reading after the word “pimping.” Fock off wanker. Welcome to ignore.

?????

It's slang that's been around for a long time.

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pimping
To strongly promote and support a certain thing.
also: refer to pimp
by cav35loth March 07, 2003

Urban Dictionary: pimping

Someone might want to let him know the above. He is, of course, welcome to keep me on ignore, but his knowing might help avoid future misunderstandings.

 

[farn]

Genuinely curious how McDaniels can line up the best staff available to him after what went down last time.

Are you referring to DEN or INDY ?

 

[fnordcircle]

Are you referring to DEN or INDY ?

The latter.