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Unfortunately, I'm not overreacting at all, just being realistic. Like I said, hopefully it's nothing but if the footage is nefarious, I don't even want to think about the consequences because let's be honest, they'll be severe.

As a quick point, from the tapes for Cameragate, they were cutting back and forth from the displays on the field showing down/distance/time to the sideline. If there's evidence that they were doing something like that again, then, yeah, I expect Belichick is going to get suspended.
 
Man when it rains it pours. Seriously the bungles? Joke. If this was the ravens i could see it.
 
I'm sure there may be a fine, which would obviously hurt Kraft and if I recall correctly, Bill was also personally fined the last time. But if this were to ultimately turn into anything, I'd be surprised if the league didn't suspend him this time.

I think it depends what they taped and how.

There is an “ignorance” precedent suffered by Sean Payton. Hopefully it doesn’t come to that.
 
I don’t think they cheated but I do think some of the people at the top of this organization shouldn’t be running a little league team, let alone an NFL team.

With everything that has happened in the past how do we let a film crew operate without letting the NFL and the Bengals know? How does the film crew not know the rules? How come a rep from the team is not there to ensure nothing like this happens?

It took 3 SBs since Spygate to wash some of that stink off, even though it was undeserved. Now they let this happen? What an embarrassment.
 
Schefter dropped the league backed nuke at halftime...I saw it, you saw it(if you're watching this crapfest).The fact the Patriots would film a complete toxic waste dump like the Bengals suggests rather strongly that they've been filming EVERY sideline under some ruse since who knows when.
They had the Browns' permission, it wasn't exactly a secret. It doesn't suggest anything unless there is some kind of evidence of these guys at every upcoming opponent.
 
It doesn't matter. They did it.
See: Spygate, Deflategate.
We get no pass anymore.

Might as well get "Cheater" tattooed on my F'n forehead

It's over.
Cheaters for life.
Done.

F'n idiots.
I'm embarrassed.

These Bastards used us

I'm probably still in denial but I just can't get my head around the fact Bill Belichick thinks he needs to resort to subterfuge to prepare for the 1-12 Bungles. All the reports sound really damning and I've yet to see a satisfying counterargument. If the NFL takes 8 months on this I'll lose my mind.
 
Belichick outright denied it. He has nothing to do with it.

Geoff Schwartz is not a former Patriot and is a prominent media member. I hope his opinion catches on.

And yes, Twitter is pretty dead. This thread is way more active.
Exactly. I’m seeing mostly eye rolling about “those Patriots at it cheating again” rather than full on outrage.

Maybe most of that is because it’s the Bengals but who knows.
 
Schefter dropped the league backed nuke at halftime...I saw it, you saw it(if you're watching this crapfest).The fact the Patriots would film a complete toxic waste dump like the Bengals suggests rather strongly that they've been filming EVERY sideline under some ruse since who knows when.

League backed nuke? Which was what?
 
And again, this is just a discussion thread and everyone is allowed to voice concern, etc. I'm going with the mindset that it's going to take a lot for this to amount to anything and Belichick sounded pretty confident this afternoon. But I'm just being honest that until I hear the all-clear from the league, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little concerned about this. I think I've made that part clear.
 
But isn’t it Kraft this time? Seems like it’d involve ownership more than Bill this time.
That’s what the Patriots story is though. Goodell might not believe them. If the tape is innocuous enough he might be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. But if it’s not, he may just assume they’re lying and drop the hammer.
 
I guess the Pats were tired of all the AB threads here
 
League backed nuke? Which was what?
that the Pats illegally taped the Cincy sideline...did you see it? Pretty damning..and I'm 100% certain Schefty got the go ahead from the league office
 
Exactly. I’m seeing mostly eye rolling about “those Patriots at it cheating again” rather than full on outrage.

Maybe most of that is because it’s the Bengals but who knows.

Yeah. I think the outrage would be 100x what it is if the Ravens were taped.
 
Lends credence to the idea that being insulted and harassed over and over can really **** with your mind.

I'm praying for you, buddy. There are a couple of good threads at the top of the forum to help you.

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It’s be pretty silly to blatantly cheat where everyone could see you lol. It’s difficult to believe this had anything to do with football ops.
 
Wouldnt be the first time bill broke the rules for something that have them zero ounce of advantage

What they get out of it isnt the point, the point is did the patriots knowingly or otherwise do something so ****ing stupid, once again they they know they aren't allowed to do?

Given their official response, we know they did.

Bill's arrogance is what is gonna undo him

This has nothing to do with Belichick. If anyone, blame Kraft and the dumb film crew.
 
Good God. What?

Bruh, if you dont have a friend who harasses you over and over cause you're a Pat's fan then you dont have any friends.

Some of us are tired of putting up with this ********
 
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