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Hard to evaluate his play this year in comparison to years past. Ive never seen him forced to vacate the pocket the way he has to this year.

Anatomically I see his footwork and ability to move around within the pocket as good or potentially better than it has ever been at any point in his career. I also feel as though his arm strength and accuracy is better this year than it was last. It would be interesting to see what it would look like if he had a clean A gap to step up into and a recieving core he was comfortable with.
 
His downward trend started when injuries started taking hold of us and our receiving core went to crap.
 
Comparing this season to other Brady seasons and it is clearly a below average season. Maybe one of his worst. The only seasons for sure in which i believe he played below the level he is playing now are 2001 and 2009.

That being said he's still a top 5 QB, but only barely.

2013 season was much worse. Edelman was top WR followed by Amendola and JAGs Dobson and Thompkins. Same problem, no X receiver excepts rookies. And Gronk played only 7 games followed by Hoomanawanui. Predictably it was Tom’s worse for passing this decade with 6.9 Y/A and 87 rating. 2014 was pretty weak too with 7.1 Y/A despite the addition of LaFell but we still ended up winning the SuperBowl. So relax. We’ll figure it out.
 
This is an excellent example of why I talk about context so much. You're seeing what you think you're seeing (I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but am just pointing out why context is so important), yet:

  • This year, Brady's completion percentage is 64.8%
  • Brady's career average completion rate is 64.1%
  • Brady's completion percentage in 2013 (a similar, relatively recent, year with major WR and TE issues) was 60.5%
  • Brady's completion percentage from 2010-2013 was 63.6%, and that includes his unanimous 2010 MVP Season.
  • Brady's completion percentage from 2014-2018 was 65.5%, including two years where the percentage was below this year's percentage.

So, looking at just the data, the argument can easily be made that he's actually being

Interesting. I did not know all that

I guess his passer rating of 93 on the season more in line with what I’ve seen of his play. Below average for him
 
Interesting. I did not know all that

I guess his passer rating of 93 on the season more in line with what I’ve seen of his play. Below average for him
Going into today NE led the NFL in rushing TDs w 13.

Give Tom 4 of those his QB rating is over 100 and the stats junkies don't have a case.

Again Tom is not about stats. They just happen on the way to winning
 
Going into today NE led the NFL in rushing TDs w 13.

Give Tom 4 of those his QB rating is over 100 and the stats junkies don't have a case.

Again Tom is not about stats. They just happen on the way to winning
One of the many flaws in passer rating. What matters is scoring, not whether the last play is a run or pass.
Passer rating is calculated as follows. Surely that is flawless, I mean who could argue that those arbitrary formulas and weighting are imperfect.

NFL Quarterback Rating Formula

The NFL rates its passers for statistical purposes against a fixed performance standard based on statistical achievements of all qualified pro passers since 1960. The current system replaced one that rated passers in relation to their position in a total group based on various criteria.

The current system, which was adopted in 1973, removes inequities that existed in the former method and, at the same time, provides a means of comparing passing performances from one season to the next.

It is important to remember that the system is used to rate pass-ers, not quarterbacks. Statistics do not reflect leadership, play-calling, and other intangible factors that go into making a successful professional quarterback.

Four categories are used as a basis for compiling a rating:

  • Percentage of completions per attempt
  • Average yards gained per attempt
  • Percentage of touchdown passes per attempt
  • Percentage of interceptions per attempt
The average standard, is 1.000. The bottom is .000. To earn a 2.000 rating, a passer must perform at exceptional levels, i.e., 70 percent in completions, 10 percent in touchdowns, 1.5 percent in interceptions, and 11 yards average gain per pass attempt. The maximum a passer can receive in any category is 2.375.

For example, to gain a 2.375 in completion percentage, a passer would have to complete 77.5 percent of his passes. The NFL record is 70.55 by Ken Anderson (Cincinnati, 1982).

To earn a 2.375 in percentage of touchdowns, a passer would have to achieve a percentage of 11.9. The record is 13.9 by Sid Luckman (Chicago, 1943).

To gain 2.375 in percentage of interceptions, a passer would have to go the entire season without an interception. The 2.375 figure in average yards is 12.50, compared with the NFL record of 11.17 by Tommy O'Connell (Cleveland, 1957).

In order to make the rating more understandable, the point rating is then converted into a scale of 100. In rare cases, where statistical performance has been superior, it is possible for a passer to surpass a 100 rating.

For example, take Steve Young's record-setting season in 1994 when he completed 324 of 461 passes for 3,969 yards, 35 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions.

The four calculations would be:

  • Percentage of Completions — 324 of 461 is 70.28 percent. Subtract 30 from the completion percentage (40.28) and multiply the result by 0.05. The result is a point rating of 2.014.
    Note: If the result is less than zero (Comp. Pct. less than 30.0), award zero points. If the results are greater than 2.375 (Comp. Pct. greater than 77.5), award 2.375.
  • Average Yards Gained Per Attempt — 3,969 yards divided by 461 attempts is 8.61. Subtract three yards from yards-per-attempt (5.61) and multiply the result by 0.25. The result is 1.403.
    Note: If the result is less than zero (yards per attempt less than 3.0), award zero points. If the result is greater than 2.375 (yards per attempt greater than 12.5), award 2.375 points.
  • Percentage of Touchdown Passes — 35 touchdowns in 461 attempts is 7.59 percent. Multiply the touchdown percentage by 0.2. The result is 1.518.
    Note: If the result is greater than 2.375 (touchdown percentage greater than 11.875), award 2.375.
  • Percentage of Interceptions — 10 interceptions in 461 attempts is 2.17 percent. Multiply the interception percentage by 0.25 (0.542) and subtract the number from 2.375. The result is 1.833.
    Note: If the result is less than zero (interception percentage greater than 9.5), award zero points.
The sum of the four steps is (2.014 + 1.403 + 1.518 + 1.833) 6.768. The sum is then divided by six (1.128) and multiplied by 100. In this case, the result is 112.8. This same formula can be used to determine a passer rating for any player who attempts at least one pass.
 
One of the many flaws in passer rating. What matters is scoring, not whether the last play is a run or pass.
Passer rating is calculated as follows. Surely that is flawless, I mean who could argue that those arbitrary formulas and weighting are imperfect.

NFL Quarterback Rating Formula

The NFL rates its passers for statistical purposes against a fixed performance standard based on statistical achievements of all qualified pro passers since 1960. The current system replaced one that rated passers in relation to their position in a total group based on various criteria.

The current system, which was adopted in 1973, removes inequities that existed in the former method and, at the same time, provides a means of comparing passing performances from one season to the next.

It is important to remember that the system is used to rate pass-ers, not quarterbacks. Statistics do not reflect leadership, play-calling, and other intangible factors that go into making a successful professional quarterback.

Four categories are used as a basis for compiling a rating:

  • Percentage of completions per attempt
  • Average yards gained per attempt
  • Percentage of touchdown passes per attempt
  • Percentage of interceptions per attempt
The average standard, is 1.000. The bottom is .000. To earn a 2.000 rating, a passer must perform at exceptional levels, i.e., 70 percent in completions, 10 percent in touchdowns, 1.5 percent in interceptions, and 11 yards average gain per pass attempt. The maximum a passer can receive in any category is 2.375.

For example, to gain a 2.375 in completion percentage, a passer would have to complete 77.5 percent of his passes. The NFL record is 70.55 by Ken Anderson (Cincinnati, 1982).

To earn a 2.375 in percentage of touchdowns, a passer would have to achieve a percentage of 11.9. The record is 13.9 by Sid Luckman (Chicago, 1943).

To gain 2.375 in percentage of interceptions, a passer would have to go the entire season without an interception. The 2.375 figure in average yards is 12.50, compared with the NFL record of 11.17 by Tommy O'Connell (Cleveland, 1957).

In order to make the rating more understandable, the point rating is then converted into a scale of 100. In rare cases, where statistical performance has been superior, it is possible for a passer to surpass a 100 rating.

For example, take Steve Young's record-setting season in 1994 when he completed 324 of 461 passes for 3,969 yards, 35 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions.

The four calculations would be:

  • Percentage of Completions — 324 of 461 is 70.28 percent. Subtract 30 from the completion percentage (40.28) and multiply the result by 0.05. The result is a point rating of 2.014.
    Note: If the result is less than zero (Comp. Pct. less than 30.0), award zero points. If the results are greater than 2.375 (Comp. Pct. greater than 77.5), award 2.375.
  • Average Yards Gained Per Attempt — 3,969 yards divided by 461 attempts is 8.61. Subtract three yards from yards-per-attempt (5.61) and multiply the result by 0.25. The result is 1.403.
    Note: If the result is less than zero (yards per attempt less than 3.0), award zero points. If the result is greater than 2.375 (yards per attempt greater than 12.5), award 2.375 points.
  • Percentage of Touchdown Passes — 35 touchdowns in 461 attempts is 7.59 percent. Multiply the touchdown percentage by 0.2. The result is 1.518.
    Note: If the result is greater than 2.375 (touchdown percentage greater than 11.875), award 2.375.
  • Percentage of Interceptions — 10 interceptions in 461 attempts is 2.17 percent. Multiply the interception percentage by 0.25 (0.542) and subtract the number from 2.375. The result is 1.833.
    Note: If the result is less than zero (interception percentage greater than 9.5), award zero points.
The sum of the four steps is (2.014 + 1.403 + 1.518 + 1.833) 6.768. The sum is then divided by six (1.128) and multiplied by 100. In this case, the result is 112.8. This same formula can be used to determine a passer rating for any player who attempts at least one pass.
QB rating is a joke
 
Pretty much all the measures of QB passing performance correlate with each other, even the dumb ones like passer rating. ANYA is a much smarter way to measure passing performance for instance, but you almost never have somebody with a high passer rating and low ANYA or vice-versa so it all ends up being a wash most of the time.
 
Yeah, I always tell people that when it comes to watching highlight tapes.......you'd rather watch a Mike Vick, Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Russell Wilson, or Patrick Mahomes highlight tape, but when it comes to a quarterback's true value in making the right decision of where to go with the ball and 'getting it there', well, Brady is the guy you want
 
Yeah, I always tell people that when it comes to watching highlight tapes.......you'd rather watch a Mike Vick, Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Russell Wilson, or Patrick Mahomes highlight tape, but when it comes to a quarterback's true value in making the right decision of where to go with the ball and 'getting it there', well, Brady is the guy you want.
When it comes to watching highlight tapes...I'd still rather watch those of Brady ahead of ANY of the jumpy punks, including ALL of the above-mentioned.
 
2013 season was much worse. Edelman was top WR followed by Amendola and JAGs Dobson and Thompkins. Same problem, no X receiver excepts rookies. And Gronk played only 7 games followed by Hoomanawanui. Predictably it was Tom’s worse for passing this decade with 6.9 Y/A and 87 rating. 2014 was pretty weak too with 7.1 Y/A despite the addition of LaFell but we still ended up winning the SuperBowl. So relax. We’ll figure it out.
Passing game was pretty trash in 2013 without Gronk, but our running game was superb that year. Blount and Ridley carried the team big time!
 
No way has this been a top five season for Brady, even given the supporting cast.

His current numbers (on a per-game basis) and where they rank for his career (not counting 2000 or 2008 for obvious reasons):

- passer rating: 93.1 (11th best season)
- completion %: 64.8% (8th best season)
- TD %: 3.9% (18th best season)
- Int %: 1.4 (5th best season)
- yds/att: 7.1 (12th best season)
- Adj yds/att: 7.3 (13th best season)
- Net yds/att (includes sack #s): 6.56 (13th best season)
- Att/G: 39.4 (2nd most)
- Comp/G: 25.6 (1st most)
- Yds/G: 281.8 (7th most)
- TD/G: 1.6 (16th best)
- INT/G: 0.6 (7th best)
Honestly, the ranks are even misleading. Passing numbers, especially over the past few seasons, are historically-high. You really can't order the individual years without taking into consideration the league environment.

For example, Brady had an 86.5 passer rating in 2001. Coming into tonight's game he was at 88.5 on the year.

However, in 2001, he ranked 6th in passer rating (league average was 78.5). This year, he ranks 21st (league average is 91.2).
 
Yeah, I always tell people that when it comes to watching highlight tapes.......you'd rather watch a Mike Vick, Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Russell Wilson, or Patrick Mahomes highlight tape, but when it comes to a quarterback's true value in making the right decision of where to go with the ball and 'getting it there', well, Brady is the guy you want

lol
 
It’s really tough watching these games. Seeing Brady looking depressed and hopeless about this offense is slowly killing my soul.
 
It’s really tough watching these games. Seeing Brady looking depressed and hopeless about this offense is slowly killing my soul.

I hear ya..........no one wants to see Superman not be super.
 
Within this thread there's talk about numbers and how they should be compared to other years, etc ,etc............and while there's some useful stuff there, but in this case the EYE TEST is actually the most obvious

Brady just doesn't LOOK good, and it's clear based on his outward acts of frustration. He's not having a great year. Blame it on anything and everything you want, but he's still not having a great year....bottom line.
 
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