Trade Deadline

[Clonamery]

We draft badly. Go ahead and give them the picks.

What about his salary? Or are you saying that you’re just giving them our draft picks because you think the Pats draft badly? Hard to tell.

 

[Kdo5]

I would cough up a first for OJ Howard if we are confident that he’ll fit right in and produce. He is worth it and would fill a big time need. I don’t value a late first round pick as much as some others do. Once upon a time we were hitting on most of our first rounders...now not so much.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Because he's a good head coach.

Nuanced, but i would say

Because he was a very good head coach in Indy when he stepped in for Pagano during his cancer treatments, and, though Arizona was up and down, it seems to be a dysfunctional organization forever committed to a rebuild, so it's hard to pin their issues specifically on Arians.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Best I would do is trading out first round pick for their second round pick. Plus some kind of sweetener on top.

Their 2nd will be what, late 30s, low 40s? I bet they finish 6-10, 7-9..

I'm on board with that.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Best I would do is trading out first round pick for their second round pick. Plus some kind of sweetener on top.

That’s exactly what I’ve said. Patriots first and fourth for Tampa’s second and Howard. Possibly that Patriots fourth could be upgraded to a third and get another fifth back.

 

[IcyPatriot]

 

[203Pat]

A week ago I would’ve been pissed if we traded a first for Howard. I’m starting to come around to going “all in” and loading up for Brady.

 

[SBLIII]

A week ago I would’ve been pissed if we traded a first for Howard. I’m starting to come around to going “all in” and loading up for Brady.

It isn't just for this year. Howard is young and under contract beyond 2019

 

[patfanken]

The only way I'd pick up Williams would be if the Redskins paid his salary here. Listen. The guy WAS a great LT. But he hasn't played in over a year. He's coming off a serious injury. I have no idea what kind of shape he's in. He's had no TC or practices in our system, ETC, ETC, ETC. Any Williams trade should be dead on arrival at this point.

As for Howard, I'd take him in a nano second. Coming out he was hailed as the most complete TE prospect in a decade. So forget about what he could bring to the passing game, he kid was a great blocker both inline and as an HB at Alabama. The FIRST thing he'd do if he came would be to improve OUR run game.

So how do we make it happen. We appeal to Arians' need of the immediate. If he is only worried about winning next week, we give him something that will help him win next week.

I'd propose that for OJ Howard, the Pats give him one of our 3rd round picks, PLUS JC Jackson.
Everyone is looking for a starting caliber CB, especially one with some size. Jackson fills that need with a proven player in an area where we have an abundance of talent.

Its a need for need swap. They need CB's,. We need TE's. I would even opine that Jackson has been more productive as a CB, than Howard has been as a TE. So why wouldn't Arians take that deal. BTW- I was even thinking about doing the same deal, but with JJWilliams as the CB, but given what we saw in the preseason, I wouldn't give up so early on Williams. It his hard to teach 6'4 to a CB.

So when the only thing that is keep Williams from the field is JC Jackson, then lets use that asset to get a desperate need, AND get Williams on the field.

Just a thought.

 

[Steamer86]

Interested to hear everyone’s thoughts: the Patriots trade a first round pick tomorrow. Who would you rather it be for, Howard or Trent Williams?

I would say Williams.

I’d take Howard over Williams. Younger, cheaper, and Williams is already holding out, so there is already discontent there (either with awful Skins organization and their docs or wanting more cash via new contract, which he has said) and being out all year, with no Training Camp, he might be more likely to get hurt compared to OJ, who is in game shape. Finally, there seems to be a better chance Wynn comes back and stays healthy,
than Gronk making a triumphant return.

 

[SBLIII]

The only way I'd pick up Williams would be if the Redskins paid his salary here. Listen. The guy WAS a great LT. But he hasn't played in over a year. He's coming off a serious injury. I have no idea what kind of shape he's in. He's had no TC or practices in our system, ETC, ETC, ETC. Any Williams trade should be dead on arrival at this point.

As for Howard, I'd take him in a nano second. Coming out he was hailed as the most complete TE prospect in a decade. So forget about what he could bring to the passing game, he kid was a great blocker both inline and as an HB at Alabama. The FIRST thing he'd do if he came would be to improve OUR run game.

So how do we make it happen. We appeal to Arians' need of the immediate. If he is only worried about winning next week, we give him something that will help him win next week.

I'd propose that for OJ Howard, the Pats give him one of our 3rd round picks, PLUS JC Jackson.
Everyone is looking for a starting caliber CB, especially one with some size. Jackson fills that need with a proven player in an area where we have an abundance of talent.

Its a need for need swap. They need CB's,. We need TE's. I would even opine that Jackson has been more productive as a CB, than Howard has been as a TE. So why wouldn't Arians take that deal. BTW- I was even thinking about doing the same deal, but with JJWilliams as the CB, but given what we saw in the preseason, I wouldn't give up so early on Williams. It his hard to teach 6'4 to a CB.

So when the only thing that is keep Williams from the field is JC Jackson, then lets use that asset to get a desperate need, AND get Williams on the field.

Just a thought.

I hate that idea.

 

[luuked]

I'd propose that for OJ Howard, the Pats give him one of our 3rd round picks, PLUS JC Jackson.
Everyone is looking for a starting caliber CB, especially one with some size. Jackson fills that need with a proven player in an area where we have an abundance of talent.

I hate this. They not only get a proven good player on a rookie deal but also a pick on top for a TE that for whatever reason can't get on the field ?

 

[Love The Drake]

Interested to hear everyone’s thoughts: the Patriots trade a first round pick tomorrow. Who would you rather it be for, Howard or Trent Williams?

I would say Williams.

Trade

I hate this. They not only get a proven good player on a rookie deal but also a pick on top for a TE that for whatever reason can't get on the field ?

If we are trading a player at a deep postion it should be Rex Burkhead

 

[Deus Irae]

I’d take Howard over Williams. Younger, cheaper, and Williams is already holding out, so there is already discontent there (either with awful Skins organization and their docs or wanting more cash via new contract, which he has said) and being out all year, with no Training Camp, he might be more likely to get hurt compared to OJ, who is in game shape. Finally, there seems to be a better chance Wynn comes back and stays healthy,
than Gronk making a triumphant return.

The Williams thing isn't happening. But he's holding out because the Redskins botched a medical situation involving a freakin' tumor. Why would you hold that against him?

 

[Deus Irae]

If we are trading a player at a deep postion it should be Rex Burkhead

Rex has no trade value.

 

[Zuma]

If the Redskins were intentionally waiting for the last minute to announce they are ready to trade him...I hope they end up stuck with him. It's to late in the game for him to get up to speed mid-way through the season.

 

[The Scrizz]

I get posturing to drive the price up but at some point you have to drop the posture and make a real deal. I'll go on record as saying they don't get more than a 2nd.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

The asking price is a 1st rounder

Washington reportedly wants a first-round pick for Trent Williams

 

[patfanken]

I hate that idea.

....and the reason?

 

[BelichicksHoodie]

Not sure how Trent Williams is gonna help the Browns penalty woes.