Antonio Brown

[maust]

I think the poster is laughing at the reliability of the report of how they knew Kraft felt.

If you were familiar with the poster's opinion of the owner he refers to as 'bend over bob' you would probably think different.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Well, what I learned from this whole AB affair is that I know I would not trust 50% of you all with my daughters. Matter of fact I would not trust 30% of you with my cat

 

[Antdawg]

No it is not. Saying you are going to investigate the background of someone who is accusing you is not a threat.
Not by any means.
Oh and HIS LAWYER was on the text.

LOL. Yeah. He had his lawyer on the group text, guys. So there's no way possible it could have been threatening. I mean, his lawyer was right there.

 

[Antdawg]

Which words constitute a threat?

You truly live under a rock or troll for a living if you don't understand why that was threatening. I believe it's the latter.

The league, the Patriots and everyone with a functional brain understands that he was trying to intimidate her and was threatening retribution. That's why he was released. You can twist it into whatever you like. Some unknown occurrence at practice that day, lol. But what he did was plenty. We don't need a conspiracy theory to figure this one out.

 

[shmessy]

You truly live under a rock or troll for a living if you don't understand why that was threatening. I believe it's the latter.

The league, the Patriots and everyone with a functional brain understands that he was trying to intimidate her and was threatening retribution. That's why he was released. You can twist it into whatever you like. Some unknown occurrence at practice that day, lol. But what he did was plenty. We don't need a conspiracy theory to figure this one out.

Yup. In Andy's comic book world a "threat" can only be physical. If no physical harm is implied, then he believes it is not a threat. Too many basement video games, evidently.
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[Ring 6]

You truly live under a rock or troll for a living if you don't understand why that was threatening. I believe it's the latter.

The league, the Patriots and everyone with a functional brain understands that he was trying to intimidate her and was threatening retribution. That's why he was released. You can twist it into whatever you like. Some unknown occurrence at practice that day, lol. But what he did was plenty. We don't need a conspiracy theory to figure this one out.

This is exactly the issue. Brown is a turd. Brown should not have done anything to bring more attention to him. Brien was released
That doesn’t mean anything you claim about what he did is right.
I will ask you what i ask everyone else. EXACTLY what did he do that constitutes a threat? Not was he wrong. Not was he stupid.
What exactly qualifies what he did as a THREAT? The definition of threat is readily available. I posted it.
Go ahead and explain based upon the actual
definition of what a threat is, how he threatened her.

You can’t. You are being a sheep. The media said it was a threat. You don’t want to say anything that isn’t negative about brown so instead of thinking for yourself and explaining why you think it’s a threat you pull crap like this post and say you won’t give any reasoning why, no one has, but I am the one who is trolling. Ridiculous.

Go ahead prove me wrong. Show me how what he did constitutes a threat. Spare me the “everyone knows” crap because that’s what people say when they know they can’t defend their positions.

It’s ok to think. It’s ok to recognize that brown screwed up and did something stupid, many things stupid, but the media and her attorney played you by sensationalizing this by incorrectly calling it threatening.

 

[Ring 6]

Yup. In Andy's comic book world a "threat" can only be physical. If no physical harm is implied, then he believes it is not a threat. Too many basement video games, evidently.
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Nope. In Andy’s book a threat can only be that which meets the definition of threat. A threat is not an inappropriate comment that you want to sensationalize by calling it a threat.
Go ahead prove me wrong.
What did he threaten? How did he make the threat? What words or actions constitute threat? Be prepared to defend your position.
Otherwise keep trolling, it’s what you do.

 

[sambam94]

You truly live under a rock or troll for a living if you don't understand why that was threatening. I believe it's the latter.

The league, the Patriots and everyone with a functional brain understands that he was trying to intimidate her and was threatening retribution. That's why he was released. You can twist it into whatever you like. Some unknown occurrence at practice that day, lol. But what he did was plenty. We don't need a conspiracy theory to figure this one out.

try reading the texts again from the beginning..IN CONTEXT. He wants to prove she needed money and asks his assistant to check her background. Assistant asks for her info. Brown texts her info along with an IG pic. He texts after the pic that she looks broke.
How is that a threat? It's not..most people don't want to spend the time to actually read the whole group text thread..IN CONTEXT.

 

[libra957]

This thread is on some serious steroid.

 

[shmessy]

Nope. In Andy’s book a threat can only be that which meets the definition of threat. A threat is not an inappropriate comment that you want to sensationalize by calling it a threat.
Go ahead prove me wrong.
What did he threaten? How did he make the threat? What words or actions constitute threat? Be prepared to defend your position.
Otherwise keep trolling, it’s what you do.

Her group texted HER and included his lawyer on it. He wrote "Eric B. let's look into her background history see how broke this girl is from (redacted)......"

Eric B. texted back: "Yes sir we will do that"

and then: "You send me her info bro"

AB then sends a pic of her kids.

Now there is nothing wrong with that if the text was just between AB and Eric B and the lawyer. The threat part is that he unsolicited brought the woman into the group text. It's obvious to most everyone but you and a select few others.

I answered your question. Answer this, Andy: WHY did he contact the woman? What was the reason to INCLUDE HER in his strategy session? He certainly wasn't negotiating.

I'll enjoy seeing your answer to that.

 

[Ring 6]

Perhaps you have a point, much of the discussion on this thread consists of arguments on what consists a “threat”. Some are interpreting it as a direct threat, some as an implied threat. Perhaps a more accurate phrasing is “an attempt to intimidate”, I think it is difficult to argue that there wasn't some intent on intimidation when one combines the group text that included her and these unknown (to her) pals of his who were going to investigate her. I think including the pictures of the kids was really over the line too.

Excellent post. Now someone is actually thinking.
So I think we can agree there is nothing in there that constitutes an overt threat.
I think we can agree that the kids being in the pictures creates a bad optic. Makes people feel
Like why would you put the kids pictures in there.
So then you move to is it intimidation?
This seems to be all there is to fall back in because there is a desire to paint it as ugly.
But if it’s a threat by intimidation there has to be some type of behavior he is trying to intimidate and there has to be some type of behavior you are trying to prevent by intimidation.
There isn’t. He simply is sending a text because he is pissed off that she made negative comments about him.
There is nothing in there such as “retract it or...” “if you sue me you will be sorry”. All he does is say that he can investigate her too.

In order to consider this a threat he has to say, imply or even allude to taking some type of negative action against her or her kids.
He said they look broke and he should investigate her in response to her making public criticisms of him. Nothing in that is threatening.
Bad taste. Inconsiderate. Douchy. Stupid. Creepy. But not threatening.

 

[shmessy]

try reading the texts again from the beginning..IN CONTEXT. He wants to prove she needed money and asks his assistant to check her background. Assistant asks for her info. Brown texts her info along with an IG pic. He texts after the pic that she looks broke.
How is that a threat? It's not..most people don't want to spend the time to actually read the whole group text thread..IN CONTEXT.

Nothing wrong with that if the text was just between him and Eric B and the lawyer.

Again, WHY did he bring the woman into the group text, SamBam? What was the reason for that???

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[rochrist]

Kind of ironic coming from Robert Kraft being accused of getting sexual favors from a girl in a sex trafficking ring.

Of course it wasn't a sex trafficking ring, but who cares about facts, right?

 

[shmessy]

Excellent post. Now someone is actually thinking.
So I think we can agree there is nothing in there that constitutes an overt threat.
I think we can agree that the kids being in the pictures creates a bad optic. Makes people feel
Like why would you put the kids pictures in there.
So then you move to is it intimidation?
This seems to be all there is to fall back in because there is a desire to paint it as ugly.
But if it’s a threat by intimidation there has to be some type of behavior he is trying to intimidate and there has to be some type of behavior you are trying to prevent by intimidation.
There isn’t. He simply is sending a text because he is pissed off that she made negative comments about him.
There is nothing in there such as “retract it or...” “if you sue me you will be sorry”. All he does is say that he can investigate her too.

In order to consider this a threat he has to say, imply or even allude to taking some type of negative action against her or her kids.
He said they look broke and he should investigate her in response to her making public criticisms of him. Nothing in that is threatening.
Bad taste. Inconsiderate. Douchy. Stupid. Creepy. But not threatening.

Why am I thinking of pretzels right now?

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[PatsWSB47]

Brown pretty much let her know that he would dig into her life to find dirt. Why? To use it to try and destroy her life and reputation either as payback, leverage to "shut her up" or make people question her credibility. The pictures of her kids? Hes so dumb there no telling what his motivation was there but I for one am convinced that the texts very easily could be legitimately scary for her. Those texts were not just a reaction, they were an attack.

 

[Deus Irae]

This thread is on some serious steroid.

The general stupidity of the thread has been turned up to 11.

 

[shmessy]

Of course it wasn't a sex trafficking ring, but who cares about facts, right?

Certainly not the folks working overtime to defend Clowntonio!

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[Vindicate]

It's astounding to see the mental gymnastics some participate in for Brown haha.

 

[shmessy]

It's astounding to see the mental gymnastics some participate in for Brown haha.

You have to admire the creativity.

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[Ring 6]

Her group texted HER and included his lawyer on it. He wrote "Eric B. let's look into her background history see how broke this girl is from (redacted)......"

Eric B. texted back: "Yes sir we will do that"

and then: "You send me her info bro"

AB then sends a pic of her kids.

Now there is nothing wrong with that if the text was just between AB and Eric B and the lawyer. The threat part is that he unsolicited brought the woman into the group text. It's obvious to most everyone but you and a select few others.

I answered your question. Answer this, Andy: WHY did he contact the woman? What was the reason to INCLUDE HER in his strategy session? He certainly wasn't negotiating.

I'll enjoy seeing your answer to that.

It is not a threat to communicate with someone unless you actually threaten them.
If he texted her hey I saw the article I don’t agree. Would that be a threat? Obviously not. So just communicating with her clearly doesn’t equal threat. So the question remains what in that communication equals threat?

Why did he include her? Probably because he was pissed off at what she said in the article and disagrees with it.
She invited the contact by speaking derogatorily about him in a National magazine article, did she not?

And now you are showing exactly what my point is. You are calling it a threat because you are making the extraordinary assumption that the only reason he would include her is to threaten her. That’s exactly the point. It’s only a threat if you add your belief of what the motivation is AND something in the nature of a threat is made. It wasn’t.