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To those in the know, legally does Brown lose anything if he posts the evidence he has against the accuser online?
 
A question for @MassPats38 — what is the line between demanding a settlement and extortion. Because really “pay me $X or I will sue you” doesn’t sound all that different to me from asking for money to settle a disagreement before taking it to court.

At times, that is a tough line to define. The attorney demand letters often provide unpleasant details, but are acceptable if the details would naturally arise in the course of proposed litigation. If the unpleasant detail is irrelevant (e.g., threatening to disclose an affair in a product liability case to facilitate a settlement) then it is likely extortion.

This article likely offers more than you are looking for with the ethical rules, but provides some case illustrations on that murky line.
 
The patriots had to have know about this potentially coming out right?
They probably knew there was a women making accusations, maybe didnt know shed file a lawsuit.
 
I agree with some of your points but the notion that money is not ever a reasonable means to seek justice in some cases of sexual assault, or criminal wrongdoing generally, is untrue in my opinion.

All of the following I’m about to say assumes that the person in question is actually a victim:

Money can help one relocate, get medical/psychological treatment, and allow one to generally pick themselves back up after being the victim of a crime. We all know how stressful not having money is, it’s cripplingly stressful to have to worry about rent, bills, etc. Removing the money stressor from the equation of someone trying to recover from trauma can only helps

It may be cynical but the fact is that money, at a practical/realistic level, is essential to functioning in society at a minimum/basic level, and I think we owe legitimate victims of trauma (sexual assault otherwise) at least that much.

A civil case would be far easier to win after garnering a conviction. Sue his estate after you prove they belong behind bars.

This type of nonsense doesn't happen to men that don't have exorbitant amounts of money. Hmm... I wonder why...
 
Dead serious: if you’re famous, you better be recording every time you have sex.

Every. Single. Time.

That seems like ... a bad idea.
The better idea is what most people do when they become celebrities - only date other celebrities because they are at a similar level. However, most athletes date/marry long time girlfriends or fool around with groupies/thirsty Instagram hoes (not a good idea).
 
This will be dragged out for months and settled after the season.
 
For the disagreers out there I respect your opinion. I thought this guy was nuts and a mess for the last several years, and the jersey switch doesn’t change that. Again I don’t want to pre-judge him in a broad or legal sense but this is a highly volatile environment we live in, the narrative might be annoying but it can matter, and it’s not as simple as “he’s super famous and bangs lots of chicks so of course he’s going to get accused of rape for money”. Anybody ever come at Gronk? Chandler Jones? Jules? Tom? Pick a player? A lot of our guys have been out and about in situations rife for this kind of claim. McGinest had the issue that was false, so that’s a thing, sure. I’m just thinking of a potentially historically great football team being distracted by **** like this ALL year. And NONE of this was on the table for the 2019 Pats 3 days ago. Not thrilled about it, that’s all.

Deflategate popped right before the Super Bowl and they won through that distraction. A civil lawsuit against a player will have little effect.
 
Now we get to the crux of the problem. There was a time when journalism required facts, fairness, and real sources. But who am I kidding. The Hearst papers of the turn of the 2oth century led us into a war with little or none of those 3 things, so this isn't really new, is it. We are just better at decimating the story these days.

Unfortunately it's easy to bash the news media, but without it there would be NO one hold our national, state and local governments and businesses to task. So there is good and bad in every area of a democratic state. That's one of the reasons fascism in growing. People are getting tired of having to have figure it out for themselves and just want someone to tell them what is and isn't.

But I forget, you're in Australia. Tell me there is hope down there? And sorry about droning on. Stepping off the soap box now, and falling back into the morass that is the current AB mess.
I'll steer clear of the politics but the crux of it is, down here people are fed up because they want truth not propagated narratives. It seems the general public has conned onto the fact that the media is a business and sensationalism is their business model, no matter the cost or consequence. We're also quick to tear down our idols, renowned for the 'tall poppy syndrome' so when fake sexual assault news hits, the pitchforks come out in droves and the thirst for blood spreads like a virus. It's one of the reasons why I hate these situations (for the reasons) listed earlier. It's also one of the reasons I lament the PC brigade harping on about toxic masculinity and every level of violence against women here because almost every man I know, knows it's our prerogative to protect and empower women NOT put hands on or abuse (in any sense). For some reason, the fourth wave seems to see us as the enemy not a partner to help eradicate the scourge. It makes you wonder what the agenda actually is.

As for the AB situation (and similar others), it's my simple wish to take statements neither believing accuser or the accused and letting the facts take us where they will (mind you, this AB one seems utterly idiotic from a simple logic standpoint as sadly, I know women who have felt the horrible force of assault and it irreparably harms them). There's so many of these stories that it honestly boggles the mind and despite one's best efforts, makes you wonder what you have to do to make the world a better place because on both sides, predators appear to be running rampant.
 
AB was supposed to practice tomorrow.
 
This will be dragged out for months and settled after the season.

Yes but we gotta hope roger doesnt rule with iron hand and put him on exempt list.
 
obvious money grab is obvious
 
Well on the bright side anytime theres controversy surrounding the Patriots they always make the Superbowl ;)
 
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