Edelman & D. Thomas back at practice; Gordon in warmups

[Marqui]

I don’t know. I think the activation of DT took a fair amount of people by surprise, myself included.

It shouldn't have, you could tell by the heavily incentive laden contract he signed that he had no intention of spending the first 6 games of this season on PUP.

 

[Deus Irae]

Clearly it wasn't.

You choosing to ignore the obvious, even when I gave a followup post explaining it, didn't make the obvious not obvious.






What he hell is wrong with you people today?

 

[supafly]

It shouldn't have, you could tell by the heavily incentive laden contract he signed that he had no intention of spending the first 6 games of this season on PUP.

The timeline for recovery is 9-12 months, so he’s just entering that 9th month, right? I don’t think it would’ve been surprising to see an older vet stay on PUP to start the year, as he is coming off his 2nd achilles tear and may have needed to get into that 10th month of recovery.

Like I said, it looks like almost everyone here left him off of their 53 man projections in the official thread.

 

[patchick]

The timeline for recovery is 9-12 months, so he’s just entering that 9th month, right? I don’t think it would’ve been surprising to see an older vet stay on PUP to start the year, as he is coming off his 2nd achilles tear and may have needed to get into that 10th month of recovery.

Agreed, but the fact that the Patriots let the public see Thomas running full speed on the practice field made it pretty clear that he was on the rapid end of that recovery timeline. I put him on my 53 as soon as I saw that. (The contract made his intentions clear, but the team's intentions carried a lot more weight with me.)

 

[Marqui]

The timeline for recovery is 9-12 months, so he’s just entering that 9th month, right? I don’t think it would’ve been surprising to see an older vet stay on PUP to start the year, as he is coming off his 2nd achilles tear and may have needed to get into that 10th month of recovery.

Like I said, I’m guessing that most here left him off of their 53 man projections in the official thread, but I could be wrong.

And they were all not paying attention, Thomas was never going on PUP. Always follow the money.

 

[supafly]

And they were all not paying attention, Thomas was never going on PUP. Always follow the money.

I’m not sure what you are suggesting. Thomas signed a one year deal worth 2.9m dollars. He has a dead cap hit of 150k. If the team cuts him, they save 2.75m.

What do you mean by “follow the money?”

Either he recovers from his injury or he doesn’t. The no-risk/team friendly pact that he signed 3 months into his recovery has nothing to do with how quickly or efficiently his body has healed.

 

[Marqui]

I’m not sure what you are suggesting. Thomas signed a one year deal worth 2.9m dollars. He has a dead cap hit of 150k. If the team cuts him, they save 2.75m.

What do you mean by “follow the money?”

Either he recovers from his injury or he doesn’t. The no-risk/team friendly pact that he signed 3 months into his recovery has nothing to do with how quickly or efficiently his body has healed.

 

[supafly]

I don’t see how this is any different than any other player on a “prove it” type of deal, particularly one who is injured? There are many contracts that offer some basic incentives like this to the player.

I don’t see how this deal does anything to suggest that there’s some type of “money trail” to follow, or that it was some type of predictor to Thomas’ recovery 5 months later.

 

[Uptown]

Man listen, DT is on the team AND he will perform well. End of discussion. If this doesn’t age well, so be it. It is what it is.

 

[Keyser Söze]

I’ve never been a fan of DT even when healthy in his prime. Blah, I’m not optimistic about him on this team.

 

[50-yard-line]

Virginia State?

Tech...sorry.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

The incentive based contract isn't relevant unless it can be comfirmed that Thomas turned down offers of $4-5 million guaranteed to take a chance in New England. I would assume his only options were near the veteran minimum and incentive loaded.

When Thomas signed the deal, it gave him a shot. The incentives gave him a chance to make some real money if he progressed in his recovery. That's it.

 

[pencilneckgeek]

Is it too early to talk about 19-0?

The important thing is that it's not too late to talk about it.

It's upside season. We've got three All Pro WRs, a stud 1st round rookie, and everybody's UDFA binkie playing WR for Tom Brady. What's not to love?

 

[The Scrizz]

Nuts!

Patton didn't say Nuts! but still funny.

 

[Clonamery]

Patton didn't say Nuts! but still funny.

I know but if the 101st doesn't hold Bastogne, Patton doesn't get to play hero. Plus, Patton was a genius but nuts.

 

[jah]

"Thomas was always making this team due to his almost entirely incentive based contract" makes absolutely no sense as an argument. Glad he's active now though.

 

[203Pat]

My point was obvious. I noted it, then explained it to you, specifically noting that I was just pointing out the data. You're now claiming I said things that I didn't say. So let's just consider this issue dead, and move on.

He never had a point. He decided to pull an arbitrary age out of the air to claim that Dorsett still has a chance to produce the way Patten did. He completely neglecting any surrounding circumstance around the two players, most notably the way they came into the league. Dorsett came in with every chance and proved that he isn't a starting receiver. Patten came in to the league with given almost zero percent chance to ever even be a contributor and worked his way into a solid starter.

 

[203Pat]

It shouldn't have, you could tell by the heavily incentive laden contract he signed that he had no intention of spending the first 6 games of this season on PUP.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't his decision to come off PUP.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'm pretty sure it wasn't his decision to come off PUP.

I agree but I wonder if there is some kind of conversation. If the trainers and team doctors believe the player is ready but the player himself doesn't think he is then its a play or get released or get released with an injury settlement.

 

[ashley]

Going to be some tough cuts at the WR position.

Mike Reiss‏Verified account @MikeReiss 2h2 hours ago
With Demaryius Thomas activated, here is my view of WR spot, (projection to keep 6):

Julian Edelman
Josh Gordon (NFI)
N'Keal Harry
Demaryius Thomas
Phillip Dorsett
Jakobi Meyers
Maurice Harris
Braxton Berrios
Gunner Olszewski
Damoun Patterson
Ryan Davis